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[CharlieMortdecai]

The club are free to utilise my services as diet advisor to Matt McGuinness.

He won't look like that after 3 weeks of my strict regime of Toblerone, grilled cheese sandwich and coffee icecream.

This reminds me of the moderately important tax case, Commissioner of Taxation v Cooper (1991). Justice Lockhart summarises the case thus:

The taxpayer, Robert John Cooper, is a professional footballer who played with the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club. He claimed as deductions under s. 51(1) of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1936 (``the Act'') the expenditure incurred by him for the purchase of additional food and drink which he consumed, on the ``instructions'' of his coach, in order to maintain an ``optimum playing weight'' of about 16 ½ stone and thus retain his strength to break the opponents' defensive line in First Grade Rugby League Football. He played with the Club as a forward.

Cooper's coach was Roy Masters and at the end of the 1979 season he provided him with a letter about what he needed to do in the offseason (quite possibly he wrote it several years later in support of the case but whatever) including the following dietary advice:

Weight:

As you have a tendency to lose weight which affects your playing ability during the season, I want you to eat the following items each week in addition to your normal meals:

• 1. 3 kilos of steak, only medium cooked.
• 2. Potatoes at each meal, 1 kilo per week.
• 3. Bread at each meal, at least three loaves per week.
• 4. Beer is an excellent method of increasing weight, therefore at least 1 dozen cans per week.
• 5. At least one glass of Sustagen per day.

Full judgement here: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=JUD/91ATC4396/00001

Cooper lost by the way, eating additional food in this circumstance was not closely enough linked to his income-earning activities to be deductible.

 

[King Corey]

This reminds me of the moderately important tax case, Commissioner of Taxation v Cooper (1991). Justice Lockhart summarises the case thus:

Cooper's coach was Roy Masters and at the end of the 1979 season he provided him with a letter about what he needed to do in the offseason (quite possibly he wrote it several years later in support of the case but whatever) including the following dietary advice:

Full judgement here: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=JUD/91ATC4396/00001

Cooper lost by the way, eating additional food in this circumstance was not closely enough linked to his income-earning activities to be deductible.

The ATO cheated the working man. Cooper should've won.

Matt should feel free to follow my or Roy's advice either way will get him to his destination.

 

[SunnyBoner]

Rumour going round that Will Phillips has asked all the players to come in an hour early tomorrow so he can take them through an extra session.

I suspect we will have a lot of fun with this over the years.

 

[ferball]

This reminds me of the moderately important tax case, Commissioner of Taxation v Cooper (1991). Justice Lockhart summarises the case thus:

Cooper's coach was Roy Masters and at the end of the 1979 season he provided him with a letter about what he needed to do in the offseason (quite possibly he wrote it several years later in support of the case but whatever) including the following dietary advice:

Full judgement here: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=JUD/91ATC4396/00001

Cooper lost by the way, eating additional food in this circumstance was not closely enough linked to his income-earning activities to be deductible.

I remember that.

I read about it when it was first happening, early 80s and I was a kid then half followed it as I got a bit older. I think it was a poor decision myself. But it was always framed as him getting tax deductible beer.

 

[Go_Roos!]

Would it be too late to ask Noble to step aside ? Then appoint Will Phillips as our captain/coach

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

I remember that.

I read about it when it was first happening, early 80s and I was a kid then half followed it as I got a bit older. I think it was a poor decision myself. But it was always framed as him getting tax deductible beer.

Yes the much briefer and more light-hearted decision at the Board of Review agreed with you, the Federal Court was an appeal by the Commissioner (https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=JUD/86ATC290/00002):

Given that this taxpayer seems to suffer from some inbuilt error of metabolism which requires substantially more food than the amount consumed, on average, by other professional footballers, I am not persuaded that this additional food assumes the characteristics of a ``meal'' strictu sensu as opposed to being part and parcel of the process by which he earns assessable income. This taxpayer is like a badly tuned racing car burning an excessive amount of fuel. It would seem that some fine tuning with the carburettor will fix the problem, but that is a job for an A-grade mechanic, not the Commissioner for Income Tax. Whilst there may not be many taxpayers fortunate enough to be able to consume a carton of beer each week and toast the Commissioner's good health with every can, this taxpayer is one of them.

Alas, his good fortune of being "able to consume a carton of beer each week and toast the Commissioner's good health with every can" was not to last. I did also like this line from earlier in the reasons for the decision:
"This taxpayer suffers from a rare condition known as ``a weight loss problem''. He would start the football season weighing in at a healthy 17 ¼ stone and gradually waste away, like Mimi in La Boheme, until, by the end of the season, he would be reduced to a pitiful 15 stone and lack the requisite strength to break the line."

 

[Footywizard]

Atu looks a good size to cause some damage. Looks a good mark for his size also

 

[Tas]

I remember that.

I read about it when it was first happening, early 80s and I was a kid then half followed it as I got a bit older. I think it was a poor decision myself. But it was always framed as him getting tax deductible beer.

The decision was right imo. If a clubs has special dietary requirements outside of a normal diet then they should provide the food to the player or reimburse the player. I believe our club provides a lot of the meals for our players, they just have to fend for themselves when they are not at the club.

 

[ferball]

The decision was right imo. If a clubs has special dietary requirements outside of a normal diet then they should provide the food to the player or reimburse the player. I believe our club provides a lot of the meals for our players, they just have to fend for themselves when they are not at the club.

Fair enough.

 

[Psicosis]

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

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That's gold!

Noble looking on at Jy working hard defensively and thinking ....there's my next captain...

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

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Noble is like “yes, now finish him Jy”.

 

[Psicosis]

 

[giantroo]

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Phillips already bigger than Jy. He's a meatball.

 

[Footywizard]

Look at phillips quads already. Think we've really made a good call here. Will play 22 games in the mid straight up.
Some of his under-age stuff in that side with rowell and Anderson was amazing.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

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Hayden is an absolute unit. Young and LDU too. Bonar looks lean, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing as he may have been working on his endurance.

 

[Hojuman]

Getting a bit of a " Baby Joey's " feel coming into 2021 about it.

 

[Horizons_00]

Wow Hayden is a ****ing beast

Where is McKay?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Where is McKay?

Will be a 5th year player in 2021 so presumably not required.

 

[Swallow_Wood]

Will be a 5th year player in 2021 so presumably not required.

He was there on Monday...

 

[Thndr]

Just look at Will in the group pic, that stance says ...do not F*** with me ...

 

[Lebit]

Popped into to training this morning (saw about half of it, seemed to mainly be the mid field crew) - some random thoughts.

- Jy was certainly acting like a leader - players wander on and off the field and in and out of drills, Jy seemed to come back to do a kicking/decision making drill with Lazarro and one of the other draftees - was giving pointers etc - also Lazzarro seem incapable of kicking off one step, quite strange.
- Phillips does indeed look like a ready made footballer, he has a low centre of gravity and a odd, very compact way of running.
- Kyron Hayden

37

Kyron Hayden

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

113.7

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

MG

113.7

2star

D

8.8

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.4

4star

MG

139.0

3star

must have a body fat percentage in the negatives - the man is just so toned. Speaking of which in the 'evade the other person' drill it was Bonar Vs Hayden to the cry of 'Here come the bulls' from the rest of the players. Bonar had a very nice fend off in one of the passes
- Stephenson didn't get caught once in the the 'evade the other person' drill, ( it's the drill in the Jy and Scott photo above) he has more dance steps that Jy
- Draftees were doing the same drill but without the tackling, it ended if you tagged the other person.
- Will Walker

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Will Walker

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

4star

CL

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

4star

CL

0.8

3star

was out there the whole time, doing some mark, turn, decision making, kick drills.
- Seeing Phoenix run next to Boomer is amusing - they are basically the same height, but Phoenix is a stick next to him.
- Ford seemed to spend so time one on one with who I assume with Younie on leading and marking
- Various other players wandering around but not doing the drills I saw, these included Atu, Zurhaar, Taylor, Larkey, Tarrant

 

[Sillygit]

Stephenson didn't get caught once in the the 'evade the other person' drill, ( it's the drill in the Jy and Scott photo above) he has more dance steps that Jy

ooooo that got me going

 

[Kangaroo Cat]

So I'm not sure if everyone has already looked this up but but i got this from draftguru.com.au its our age and experience profile compared to other teams for 2021