U19 Under 19's North Divison 1

[Murphaaaa1]

Gotta stop this ongoing crap about Old Ivanhoe, Old Trinity and Banyule. Old Ivanhoe will easily win this years flag, its all talk, yes the arrogance levels are rediculous but when your 5 zip you can be arrogant. The difference between Old Ivanhoe and Old Paradians is a joke, EFL are the same in divi 1, the teams are a joke, no competition at all, its a disgrace and as for the flag this year banyule wont win and trinity will try hard but fail. Ill put my 'end of year ladder' out there now, big call, but it will be ..

- Old Ivanhoe
- Old Trinity
- Banyule/Viewbank
- Fitzroy Reds
- Old Carey
- Bulleen Templestowe
- Old Camberwell
- Manningham Sharks
- Old Essendon
- Old Paradians

 

[tclan88]

Let me lay down the facts once and for all. OI are the dominant force this season, and will win the flag. As for the Mooses top 4 - Banyule, perhaps, but youve got no chance of winning - Fitzory, likewise - and OT, if they think that bringing back 3 or 4 players like Coulsen-Hoffacker, Pacconi and Leatham will get them over the line against OI, theyve got another thing coming.

this years OI team is as good, if not better than the one that easily won the premiership last year, and with connections at both clubs, i can safely say that OI would comfortably defeat OT with their current side, regardless of who OT have playing. The scary thing is that both Saprgo and Delmonte are playing seniors each and every week, and are really performing at that level. they would therefore quite easily nullify the effect of whomever OT bring back into their side any day of the week!

* with or without Delmonte and Spargo - pencil OI in for the 08 flag.

Every team has a chance of winning any game bigsticks and the thing that made OI stand out last year was the fact that they were always hungry and treated every team with RESPECT. To say that this years OI side is better than last years is an outlandish call at round 5.

Speculation is what you are basing all your "facts" on and in doing so letting down your credibility as a source. No doubting that OI last year were the best by a long way, however this new competition sees all sides bar OP being able to step up and bring it to any side in the competition.

In relation to Leetham, Coulsen-Hoffacker and Pacconi, each of them have only played one game in the 19s and none of the three have played together in the 19s, much similar to Spargo and Delmonte.

The real facts are that OI, OT and Banyule are on top of the ladder with five wins and no losses and only percentage separating them. The next few weeks will indicate who gets the bragging rights until finals.

 

[Le_Bousche]

With all this talk about the influence of under 19's playing in seniors, just curious as to the pre-season most of these players had. I know for a fact some of them trained heavily with VFL clubs and played in numerous practice matches with them as well. Do you think that these players with even more experience than playing at VAFA senior level will give them an advantage over those whose first year it may be in the senior's??

 

[clune755]

Let me lay down the facts once and for all. OI are the dominant force this season, and will win the flag. As for the Mooses top 4 - Banyule, perhaps, but youve got no chance of winning - Fitzory, likewise - and OT, if they think that bringing back 3 or 4 players like Coulsen-Hoffacker, Pacconi and Leatham will get them over the line against OI, theyve got another thing coming.

this years OI team is as good, if not better than the one that easily won the premiership last year, and with connections at both clubs, i can safely say that OI would comfortably defeat OT with their current side, regardless of who OT have playing. The scary thing is that both Saprgo and Delmonte are playing seniors each and every week, and are really performing at that level. they would therefore quite easily nullify the effect of whomever OT bring back into their side any day of the week!

* with or without Delmonte and Spargo - pencil OI in for the 08 flag.

everyone knows that ivanhoe are the best team in the competition at the moment as they are sitting on top of the ladder, but to say they will win the flag at this stage of the year is such an arrogant call. but in saying that, if they do win the flag congrats to the boys and the team and i will shutup. there is no doubting that spargo and delmonte are playing excellent football in their seniors but both pacconi and coulsen-hoffacker are playing just as well as those 2 players except their team isn't winning. pacconi won rookie of the week a few weeks ago and coulsen-hoffacker has been in the top 3 best each week bar 1 and he's been trinity's best the past 2. if ivanhoe and trinity make the grand final and these 4 players play (spargo, delmonte, coulsen-hoffacker and pacconi) it will be a cracking game. but in saying that, finals are so far away that there is no clear indication what teams are going to dominate and which ones are going to fall off once the competition becomes tougher.

 

[ohh_you_beauty]

everyone knows that ivanhoe are the best team in the competition at the moment as they are sitting on top of the ladder, but to say they will win the flag at this stage of the year is such an arrogant call. but in saying that, if they do win the flag congrats to the boys and the team and i will shutup. there is no doubting that spargo and delmonte are playing excellent football in their seniors but both pacconi and coulsen-hoffacker are playing just as well as those 2 players except their team isn't winning. pacconi won rookie of the week a few weeks ago and coulsen-hoffacker has been in the top 3 best each week bar 1 and he's been trinity's best the past 2. if ivanhoe and trinity make the grand final and these 4 players play (spargo, delmonte, coulsen-hoffacker and pacconi) it will be a cracking game. but in saying that, finals are so far away that there is no clear indication what teams are going to dominate and which ones are going to fall off once the competition becomes tougher.

good player but with all fairness the 1s got smashed in both games, it will be a better indicator on how hes going when they win a game and he gets best on

 

[someguy07]

everyone knows that ivanhoe are the best team in the competition at the moment as they are sitting on top of the ladder, but to say they will win the flag at this stage of the year is such an arrogant call. but in saying that, if they do win the flag congrats to the boys and the team and i will shutup. there is no doubting that spargo and delmonte are playing excellent football in their seniors but both pacconi and coulsen-hoffacker are playing just as well as those 2 players except their team isn't winning. pacconi won rookie of the week a few weeks ago and coulsen-hoffacker has been in the top 3 best each week bar 1 and he's been trinity's best the past 2. if ivanhoe and trinity make the grand final and these 4 players play (spargo, delmonte, coulsen-hoffacker and pacconi) it will be a cracking game. but in saying that, finals are so far away that there is no clear indication what teams are going to dominate and which ones are going to fall off once the competition becomes tougher.

fair call clune its definitly way to early to start predicting ladder results, let alone grand finalists. injuries could have a major impact too. if 1 or 2 key players are lost the balance of the entire team can be upset, take OC for example with the lose of their ruckman.

 

[HERNIA_KING]

boys you have to remember that football is a team game, teams win because all 22 players play well together. to say that when gun players come back to play for ivanhoe, banyule or trinity that they are going to win games off their own back, is just ridiculous. sure those players will have an impact but it's the team around them that determines how the teams succeeds.

 

[the goose83]

this years OI team is as good, if not better than the one that easily won the premiership last year, and with connections at both clubs, i can safely say that OI would comfortably defeat OT with their current side, regardless of who OT have playing. The scary thing is that both Saprgo and Delmonte are playing seniors each and every week, and are really performing at that level. they would therefore quite easily nullify the effect of whomever OT bring back into their side any day of the week!

Well they won a divison 3 flag last year, and north 1 is effectivley divison 2 split in half, so logically they were always going to have to improve it looks like they have done so. But doensn't really put the fear of god into me that the division 3 premier have improved

Just like to make a comment about people saying this competition is a joke due to Ivanhoes dominance and the difference between the 1st and last team. Last year St.Bedes Mentone in divison 2 won every game with out ever being challenged, they beat the bottom team by something bizarre like 250 or 300 points, and they did this all year while giving up to 7 of their best players to seniors most weeks. Not to mention that not many of their guns played in the 19's grand final which they won, because they played in the senior grand final the day before. THAT is a joke, Ivanhoes dominance is not a patch on this, or even like anything which Ormond are doing in South 1.
Calling the competion a joke benefits nobody, every one involved dedicates a large amount of time, and we should pride ourselves we don't have a situation like last year. By the end of it, no one had any respect for St.Bedes because they refused to go up to division 1 actually play a game that was a challenge. Anyone from Ivanhoe calling the competition a joke is not only wrong, but undermining everything that you achieve and all the hardwork that you put in at games and on the track.

 

[clune755]

good player but with all fairness the 1s got smashed in both games, it will be a better indicator on how hes going when they win a game and he gets best on

yeah couldn't agree more, it will be interesting to see how he plays in games that they win but at the moment you can't see trinity winning to many in the next couple of weeks, think they have ivanhoe and xavs. made the state squad so must have been playing pretty well for the selectors to choose him. rumour is he is a possible starter in the final team. good luck to all.

 

[Max Leader]

Under 19's Divi 1 North and South are a poor cousins to Divi 2 from last year.

The two top teams from D3 are now on top of both D1's.

The Ammo's should now merge the top 5 teams from Divi 1 South and North into a real Divi 1. Then there would be a competition that would see who could in 2009 rightfully go to the Premier Division.

With regard to players being dropped for finals. If these players are as good as being written about, they will most likely not qualify for Under 19's.

 

[HERNIA_KING]

what are the rules regarding under 19 players coming back to play finals? these qualifications??

 

[traitorshorts]

good player but with all fairness the 1s got smashed in both games, it will be a better indicator on how hes going when they win a game and he gets best on

I think it is an admirable to play well when the team is struggling, players who can only play well when your winning are just down hill skiers. Surely it has to be harder to play well when your team is losing rather than when it is winning?

 

[ohh_you_beauty]

I think it is an admirable to play well when the team is struggling, players who can only play well when your winning are just down hill skiers. Surely it has to be harder to play well when your team is losing rather than when it is winning?

fair call but,
when the team is firing, whos the best of the best??
sure it is hard to play well when the team is losing, but its a better indicator when everyone in the team is playing well and at their best

 

[HERNIA_KING]

yeah absolutely, i don't think traitor shorts is denying that it's a better indication of how well a player plays when the team plays well. i think he is saying that to play well when your team is struggling is an admirable quality to have as a young player.

 

[thecave]

why does no one rate parade?
just kidding
but seriously
they're sh1t

 

[HERNIA_KING]

why does no one rate parade?
just kidding
but seriously
they're sh1t

cave all you do is come on here and pump up your own team and bag other teams. most posters on this thread give some credit to their own team and then give credit to other teams who might not be as good. all you do is belittle and trash talk other teams. grow up mate.

 

[thecave]

wheres moosey gone?

he cant be anywhere near the pill for whatever team he plays for (probably manninghan or some other sh1t club) if he has time to watch the opposition runner.

maybe he's just watching from the boundry cos he's too soft to get out there and get it for himself

neck up moose

 

[thecave]

maybe you got a hernia from too many d1cks up your arse.......

 

[the goose83]

maybe you got a hernia from too many d1cks up your arse.......

You have to be really tough to have a go at some one on the internet, especially when you remain anonymous....bravery personified.

 

[thecave]

look here goose who are u?
and why are you crying?

 

[The_Winch]

Here I was enjoying an interesting discussion between intellectual posters on this forum, and out come you 'cave', talking out of your arse once more. Honestly mate if you have nothing serious to say then just piss off. I really hope you get flogged this weekend!

'Hernia king' makes a good point, its about the depth of your squad not just a few outstanding players. In saying that obviously OI and OT have very good depth if there best players aren't playing with them each week and are still comfortably winning games. In answer to your question about qualifying for finals. I beleive its something betweeb 4 and 6 games you have to play. Not exactly sure

 

[HERNIA_KING]

maybe you got a hernia from too many d1cks up your arse.......

HERNIA - Wikipedia

By far most hernias develop in the abdomen, when a weakness in the abdominal wall evolves into a localized hole, or "defect", through which adipose tissue, or abdominal organs covered with peritoneum, may protrude. Another common hernia involves the intervertebral disc, and causes back pain or sciatica.
Hernias may present either with pain at the site, a visible or palpable lump, or in some cases by more vague symptoms resulting from pressure on an organ which has become "stuck" in the hernia, sometimes leading to organ dysfunction. Fatty tissue usually enters a hernia first, but it may be followed by or accompanied by an organ.
Most of the time, hernias develop when pressure in the compartment of the residing organ is increased, and the boundary is weak or weakened.

• Weakening of containing membranes or muscles is usually congenital (which explains part of the tendency of hernias to run in families), and increases with age (for example, degeneration of the annulus fibrosus of the intervertebral disc), but it may be on the basis of other illnesses, such as Ehlers-Danlos syndrome or Marfan syndrome, stretching of muscles during pregnancy, losing weight in obese people, etc., or because of scars from previous surgery.
• Many conditions chronically increase intra-abdominal pressure, (pregnancy, ascites, COPD, dyschezia, benign prostatic hypertrophy) and hence abdominal hernias are very frequent. Increased intracranial pressure can cause parts of the brain to herniate through narrowed portions of the cranial cavity or through the foramen magnum. Increased pressure on the intervertebral discs, as produced by heavy lifting or lifting with improper technique, increases the risk of herniation.

Now I've read this wikipedia page maybe twice and so far am yet to find a reason for developing a hernia that states it is caused by having numerous amounts of male anatomy forced into ones rectum.

But just incase thecave i've included the link for you to look at yourself. Enjoy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernia

 

[ohh_you_beauty]

HERNIA - Wikipedia

By far most hernias develop in the abdomen, when a weakness in the abdominal wall evolves into a localized hole, or "defect", through which adipose tissue, or abdominal organs covered with peritoneum, may protrude. Another common hernia involves the intervertebral disc, and causes back pain or sciatica.
Hernias may present either with pain at the site, a visible or palpable lump, or in some cases by more vague symptoms resulting from pressure on an organ which has become "stuck" in the hernia, sometimes leading to organ dysfunction. Fatty tissue usually enters a hernia first, but it may be followed by or accompanied by an organ.
Most of the time, hernias develop when pressure in the compartment of the residing organ is increased, and the boundary is weak or weakened.

• Weakening of containing membranes or muscles is usually congenital (which explains part of the tendency of hernias to run in families), and increases with age (for example, degeneration of the annulus fibrosus of the intervertebral disc), but it may be on the basis of other illnesses, such as Ehlers-Danlos syndrome or Marfan syndrome, stretching of muscles during pregnancy, losing weight in obese people, etc., or because of scars from previous surgery.
• Many conditions chronically increase intra-abdominal pressure, (pregnancy, ascites, COPD, dyschezia, benign prostatic hypertrophy) and hence abdominal hernias are very frequent. Increased intracranial pressure can cause parts of the brain to herniate through narrowed portions of the cranial cavity or through the foramen magnum. Increased pressure on the intervertebral discs, as produced by heavy lifting or lifting with improper technique, increases the risk of herniation.

Now I've read this wikipedia page maybe twice and so far am yet to find a reason for developing a hernia that states it is caused by having numerous amounts of male anatomy forced into ones rectum.

But just incase thecave i've included the link for you to look at yourself. Enjoy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernia

bit touchy on the hernia issue, lol nah jk im only playin

 

[mixfish]

And now back to the footy
OCarey over the Sharks
OIvanhoe over OEG
OT in a close one over Banyule
OCam over Parade, interesting that Parades list seems longer than 3 round ago, may not be as aesy as it looks on paper
Reds over BT

 

[HERNIA_KING]

ROUND 6: TIPS

SHARKS VS OLD CAREY:
Old Carey over the sharks easy. Old Carey are starting to get their season underway slowly, testing Old Trinity last week and almost stealing the game. Carey by 30+.

OLD ESSENDON VS OLD IVANHOE:
Ivanhoe will take the honours here. Essendon last year were one of the powerhouse teams in the 19's but have struggled to get consistency this year with their new list. Ivanhoe are the inform team of the season, sitting on top of the ladder, 5-0, would expect them to crush an inexperienced OEG. Ivanhoe by 40+

OLD TRINITY VS BANYULE: *GAME OF THE WEEK*
So much talk about these 2 teams on this thread. With supporters/players from both teams talking up their chances. Banyule a little more. Trinity are an exceptional team, even without 3 of their best playing seniors, tight knit bunch. Banyule have been just as consistent, although not many champion players, a team of champions as stated by a previous poster. My match of the round. Trinity however will get over the top of them in the 2nd half with their run and carry. Especially on one of the best surfaces in Melbourne. Good luck to both teams! Trinity by 20.

OLD PARADIANS VS OLD CAMBERWELL:
Haven't seen much of these 2 teams play. Camberwell are a solid side but struggle to put the score on the board when it's needed. Paradians are struggling with the pace and strength of North 1 but will try as hard as they can all day. Camberwell will just be too strong and too efficient for them. Camberwell by 30+.

BULLEEN TEMPLESTOWE VS FITZROY REDS:
Both good teams. By some of the posters on this thread as well as results, Fitzroy are not a team to be taken lightly. Took some time to get their game going at the start of the season but are starting to develop their run as the season progresses. Bulleen Temp are a quality side but I believe Fitzroys increase in form each week will get them over the edge. Fitzroy by 20.

Good luck to all games this weekend. Hope you all get the results you want.

HERNIA KING.