Victorian Country Boys - Biggest Mummy's Boys in Australia?

[Conception]

For the longest time Victorian players have had the reputation for being the biggest go-home mummy's boys, but perhaps it's a little more specific. Looking at Geelong's list, 90% of their players are from the countryside. In the cases of Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

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31

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196cm

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94kg

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12.5

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9.0

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3.4

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5.4

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1.6

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2.6

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10.0

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7.1

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4.6

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2.0

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4.6

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2.4

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2.0

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, Patrick Dangerfield, Tanner Bruhn, Oliver Henry; it wasn't enough just to leave their original clubs, it had to be Geelong or bust. Collingwood in particular have one of the best records of player retention, but not even they could prevent Oliver Henry from demanding to go back to mummy and big brother.

At this point, it's pretty obvious players from the Victorian Countryside struggle badly to adapt away from their comfort zone.

 

[Engimal v3]

I think it goes without saying that most mainlanders are a little soft

 

[STPer18]

Yep, Geelong must've had a cracking win, the sooks are coming out of the woodwork.

Who wouldn't want to live in beautiful, cloudy Geelong?

 

[Cleric]

Vic metro kids are pretty soft.

 

[Kwality]

For the longest time Victorian players have had the reputation for being the biggest go-home mummy's boys, but perhaps it's a little more specific.

Interesting claim but its this that amazes me:
'At this point, it's pretty obvious players from the Victorian Countryside struggle badly to adapt away from their comfort zone.'

I'd suggest kids that come through boarding schools have less chance of being 'mummy's boys' than kids still living at home & it applies Australia wide.

The go home factor is much more confused than you are suggesting.

 

[Hoops]

Great to support a community club

 

[darcytiger]

It’s because they are given cheap farm property and somehow always manage to get an amazing price for their cattle. Good to be in the Geelong Footy Club farmers guild

 

[STPer18]

It’s because they are given cheap farm property and somehow always manage to get an amazing price for their cattle. Good to be in the Geelong Footy Club farmers guild

What are you on about? Grand Final tickets for some cows is a fair trade.

Jeremy Cameron's Insane Story About Swapping Grand Final Tickets With His Mate For Cows

"A few calves..."

www.triplem.com.au

Jeremy Cameron's premiership campaign almost got off to a horror start the night before the game, thanks to one of his mates.

Down at another one of Billy Brownless's haunts for Mad Monday, the Wharf Shed, Cameron told Billy he'd organised a swap with his mate.

Two grand final tickets for "four or five cows".

"It was a bit of a swap, yeah," he explained on Triple M's Rush Hour with JB & Billy.

"He was meant to get to my house at 7pm...on grand final eve.

"He calls me at 9 o'clock (and says) 'I've missed the turn, 10 minutes from your house, I'm bogged on the side on the road because I tried to do a u-turn with the trailer on...'"

 

[Colonial]

Vic metro are softer.

 

[The 747]

For the longest time Victorian players have had the reputation for being the biggest go-home mummy's boys, but perhaps it's a little more specific. Looking at Geelong's list, 90% of their players are from the countryside.

At this point, it's pretty obvious players from the Victorian Countryside struggle badly to adapt away from their comfort zone.

If you want to actually argue this - not just sook about Geelong - perhaps you should look at how many players come from Vic Country and where they are playing? Also your mention of Cameron and Dangerfield is ridiculous, both players contributed over many years to their original clubs and left when they became restricted free agents. Bruhn Geelong targeted from draft day. You are really talking about Ollie Henry with a big wash of bullshit to go with it.

Geelong target local players because they are local. They develop, draft local players and support community football in the region - which is a reason why it produces so many players.

Do you think the interstate clubs don't target players who come from their home state?

 

[Jimmy95]

Well known that Vic metro are the biggest flight risk. Interstate clubs prefer to draft Vic country recruits over Vic metro where possible.

A Vic metro first rounder is the biggest risk in drafting for an interstate side.

 

[Hamingja]

Vic metro kids are pretty soft.

Yep. Freo and GWS specifically target the country kids to try to avoid the go home factor. It is just a perception bias because any of the City kids going home are spread around 9 teams.

 

[kane249]

Victorians are pretty soft.

efa

 

[Hamingja]

The list in the OP is wrong for a few players (Clohesy isn't from Ireland and was through the falcons, Blitz wasn't a Geelong VFL player) but I have it as 15 listed players from the Geelong Falcons incl. Stewart who was a falcon before Geelong VFL. In a professional competition with a draft it is unprecented. Yes a handful have come from the "go home" factor but there has also been a strong focus on drafting local, especially with later picks.

 

[Danw0w]

What are you on about? Grand Final tickets for some cows is a fair trade.

Jeremy Cameron's Insane Story About Swapping Grand Final Tickets With His Mate For Cows

"A few calves..."

www.triplem.com.au

I'm not conspiracy theorist, but 4 or 5 cows is a bit of a steep price for two grand final tickets.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I think Geelong actively target local players as they think it's good for their culture, so it's no surprise their list reflects that.

As for the players taking up the offers, they do it for the same reason any player does - money and the prospect of success.

If Geelong were s**t and offered inferior $ then they wouldn't get the players home.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Not as much as Jason Horne-Francis

 

[One_Wing]

I find Freo has an easier time retaining vic country kids compared to vic metro. But that could be recency bias.

 

[Robertio]

Vic metro kids are pretty soft.

Dawson and Rankine say hello.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Mummy's boys or wise investors? Geelong has every bloke down at that joint loaded up with enough half-priced acreage to last a lifetime. Bigger cheats than we were with the Brown Paper bags, just hasn't been an investigation into it.

I've been to Geelong a hundred times and can safely say its an absolute hole. Would prefer to be set up in the heart of Glen Waverly getting food poisoning every 2nd day than spend more than a week down there. Only reason half the players are there is property deals and free Fords.

For the same reasons WCE have a far higher retention rate than Freo. Hungry Jacks does a lot of heavy lifting for that joint

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Well known that Vic metro are the biggest flight risk. Interstate clubs prefer to draft Vic country recruits over Vic metro where possible.

A Vic metro first rounder is the biggest risk in drafting for an interstate side.

Zac Butters (best player in the AFL this season) was from the outskirts of Melbourne Metro region (Bacchus Marsh) and seems like he is very happy at Port Adelaide.

I think we saw more Vic Metro (and country) players go home in the last few years due to the unique circumstances of the coronavirus and lockdowns, but I think we will see more Vic players sticking fat going forwards to their interstate drafted club (ie Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson at the Suns)

 

[WillHayward]

If TDK heads to Geelong....

 

[peetoo]

Cos over half the draftees come from Victoria? There’s bound to be more cases

 

[Tandy]

What a dumb thing to say. Clubs actively recruit Vic country boys. Geelong happen to be the best run club in the league with arguably the best recruitment staff in the league.

 

[STPer18]

Mummy's boys or wise investors? Geelong has every bloke down at that joint loaded up with enough half-priced acreage to last a lifetime. Bigger cheats than we were with the Brown Paper bags, just hasn't been an investigation into it.

I've been to Geelong a hundred times and can safely say its an absolute hole. Would prefer to be set up in the heart of Glen Waverly getting food poisoning every 2nd day than spend more than a week down there. Only reason half the players are there is property deals and free Fords.

For the same reasons WCE have a far higher retention rate than Freo. Hungry Jacks does a lot of heavy lifting for that joint