Autopsy vs Eagles - Round 19

[FlyHigh18]

I still can’t work out if this is Brad’s gameplan that we supposedly changed or the back to basics, hard footy?

 

[Forever North]

I don't think we were shockingly bad or anything like that, the players were trying however when WC are in the mood they are impossible to stop especially at home. They play some really good football and are a very skillfull, well balanced and coached side. Today showed basically where we are at and how much work needs to be done to become a serious top 4 side. Good lesson for our young players to see what level they need to get to if they want to succeed.

 

[Caracas]

Scores from stoppages was a disaster.. goldy didnt give us first use, midfield is young, Jy, Tarryn, LDU will get better, cant expect them to dominate every contest .. cunners been down on form since I backed him for the chaz (never again) and we were up a very very classy midfield.. im okay with the loss just for the younger guys experience..

As much as Gerard pisses me off, he is right, fitness is somewhat an issue.. 2017/18 preseason JZ, Higgins and a few others did the utah trip, they didnt this year. I believe everyone needs to hit up altitude in the pre season and certainly need to gain our depth back in D.. poor Durds was on his last legs out there...

Actually, the truth is, Goldy put it down the throat of our mids all day. Unfortunately, our lack of first touch ensured we lost the advantage. That’s got nothing to do with Goldy. Next year, hopefully, Thomas, LDU and Simpkin will sort that out.


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[LB2Snake]

To start we need to find some experience mids with pace...at least 2 all we have are 1 pace plodders...Thomas excepted..

Kinda what we’ve been trying to do with free agency the last couple of years......they are bloody hard to land.

 

[Devington]

I still can’t work out if this is Brad’s gameplan that we supposedly changed or the back to basics, hard footy?

Both. We kicked the handball happy backhalf shit to the curb, started going longer down the line, and upped our intensity across the field.

 

[giantroo]

 

[the flying ham]

Hard to be dirty on the backline with the relative ease and regularity the footy was pumped in there. Honestly could have been down 6 goals or more at half time.

Midfield looked tired, and that I reckon was the starting point of all the subsequent issues throughout the game. Couldn't keep up with them on the spread meaning they were able to lower their eyes at pick their targets.

Thinking Thompson and Turner will come back, most likely for Durdin and Atley. A few more safe given the cupboard getting bare in the scoobs.

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[Yoko and me]

I had it muted for the whole thing but looked like he played the young fellas in the middle for most of the last quarter?

I went the mute option after half time. How was that rubbish about Cameron being of for six minutes when the graphic showed Garner had been off for eight minutes at the same time? Or the rubbish about Hickey's domination totally refuted by the stats?

Happy with the young punks in the middle at the end. If Shaw had the job he must stand back for a bit and suss out who is retained and where he wants them to play. Give Tudor a week in charge while shaw watches and schemes. Plans with Lappin. Draws a line between the past and the future

 

[Roosurgence]

We need to find a half back that is damaging with the ball.

Our half backs are average users of the ball.

 

[DuckYeah]

Comprehensively beaten. In every aspect.

Matchups simply did not work, especially in the back half. Ryan on Ahern for example, Durdin was on Kennedy for far too long but then Tarrant was getting out marked multiple times. We just can't seem to put a handle on Kennedy, ever.

Our tackling was deplorable, seemingly non-existent. Numbers were low, intensity wasn't there. We played 1 good quarter of footy and that was the 2nd, which even then the best was in the dying minutes.

Goldsteins kicking is putrid, barely any penetration, fumbling, didn't make any impact until the game was over anyway. I'm over it.

And I told you so, anyone who was so gung-ho over bringing Garner in is eating crow, it should've been Hosie and you all know it, even in a belting against Carltons VFL team today he still was one of the best on ground kicking multiple goals meanwhile Garner is wasteful, and not team oriented. I'm done waiting for Garner to 'arrive'. Mason Wood for as long as we've waited on him has a genuine crack and has a right to play in the team and plays great games. Garner is in the rear view mirror for this clubs future.

Trent Dumonts decision making is the absolute pits, and clearly cannot run a ground as wide as Optus, or keep accountable to his opponent.

And that's where Eagles beat us, as any sensible team would, spread hard and run out the game first and you'll beat North any day of the week on a ground like that, with kicking as accurate as theirs and with running capacity as good as theirs. There is no winning, we lack pace, we can't play to wide grounds effectively and we can't get back quick enough going both ways. Essendon did the same albeit faster.

The last 2 weeks I can cop, even the Brisbane one for as rigged as that was, because it was a genuine effort and a gameplan was followed. Today we didn't follow it, it seemed disorganised, little manning up, and just no cohesive movement for nearly the entire game.

Chalk it down as Rhyce's first genuine non-competitive loss and he'll hopefully learn alot from that, its hard to know whether Simpson just knew what were gonna do to a T or the players just didn't listen to Shaw, as for the first time he looked visibly frustrated & confused.

I agree with 99% of this including Hosie should get a crack, never know what he may bring to the table.. however, Garner could have pinned 2 or 3 goals today.. he’s hard at the ball and has a crack.. not putting him in the shit pile just yet

 

[Coalface]

Yeah, nah... didn't enjoy much of that.

 

[the flying ham]

We are lacking a quality half back... a Brodie Smith or a Rory Laird would
be nice

Perhaps ahern could fill that space. Looked great at times, just needs more time to learn the defending caper

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[giantroo]

We need to find a half back that is damaging with the ball.

Our half backs are average users of the ball.

Lachie Ash. Lachie Ash. Lachie Ash.

 

[The Ardent Army]

Sometimes when the opposition is starting to get really confident and the game is slipping away, you need someone to stand up and be the campaigner that the team needs.

Call it the ‘Hodge effect’.

In seasons to come I’d like to think we have one or two blokes that will have the instinct and cajones to potentially sacrifice himself so as to bring his teammates back to the intensity required.

In layman’s terms, it’s called going the biff.

Zuurhaar naturally most likely. Only coaching holding him back.

 

[Massive Unit]

Tarryn is building nicely and we should cross our fingers that he avoids the dreaded second year rut. I'm concerned about LDU. I get the feeling that he's an instinct player and is possibly a little overcoached at the moment. I'd love to see him just not think too much and just have a crack. I reckon he's going to be a bull when it all clicks.
Froggy works hard but his skills let him down far too regularly.
We need to see a game now where Ahern and Higgo are on fire on the outside with Jed and Cunners toiling away in the guts.
The lads looked tired as hell today.

 

[Roosurgence]

We distinctly played differently today.

I think West Coast marking defenders put us off playing the down the line to a contest style we have been playing under Shaw.

Today we tried to go through the middle a lot more with horrible results.

 

[muttley45]

Due to our almost complete lack of pressure (tackle, scoreboard, and general), their across the board superior skills were brought to the fore, clearance work was extremely average today especially, but in reality for quite a while, it's weird, but we seem to do better at centre bounces when Jack and Cunners are not in attendance, and Goldy stops allowing himself to be rag dolled once in a while.

 

[Billy Not Really]

Perhaps ahern could fill that space. Looked great at times, just needs more time to learn the defending caper

Thought Ahern was playing with much more run and effort and intensity than he has in any other previous games. I'd give him a tick just for showing something new, and he was getting some decent disposals as well as opposed to going unsighted.

 

[DuckYeah]

Perhaps ahern could fill that space. Looked great at times, just needs more time to learn the defending caper

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I’d rather Ahern on a wing (once fit)

 

[kaboom kid]

Our midfield was s**t today and has been for weeks now
Zeebs - 12 disposals, 3 of them were turnovers lol

Cunners - 20 disposals, no influence

Jy - only 10 disposals did nothing

Higgo - did he even touch it in the 3rd or 4th quarter? He was so poor

Polec and Ahern got a lot of the ball but had 1 tackle between them

Luke - 16 disposals and 1 tackle, offered nothing after half time

Durdin... 2 disposals, urgh

no influence at all

Our midfield is the main issue and for the first time under Shaw we looked uncompetitive. But west coast are a very very good team so can’t take anything from them!

Jy and Jack have been poor last 2 weeks but were very good for the 4 weeks prior. That's the major difference. You can't carry 2 midfielders getting around 10 possessions only.

 

[the flying ham]

Actually, the truth is, Goldy put it down the throat of our mids all day. Unfortunately, our lack of first touch ensured we lost the advantage. That’s got nothing to do with Goldy. Next year, hopefully, Thomas, LDU and Simpkin will sort that out.


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I thought that too. Rucked fairly well, some really nice clean takeaways for a few of the boys. Unfortunately if it was a 50/50 ground ball in there, they backed one to win the pill while the others broke away either to a QB or forward, whilst we admirably had 2 or 3 competing for the same footy.

West Coast are a really good side, and as someone mentioned earlier when they are on they are bloody hard to stop.

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[the flying ham]

I’d rather Ahern on a wing (once fit)

Yeah he could work there too for sure. But good to see they were willing to try something new with him.

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[Roosurgence]

The only positive of a belting is that I am less angry than the last two weeks.

 

[The Ardent Army]

Sometimes when the opposition is starting to get really confident and the game is slipping away, you need someone to stand up and be the campaigner that the team needs.

Call it the ‘Hodge effect’.

In seasons to come I’d like to think we have one or two blokes that will have the instinct and cajones to potentially sacrifice himself so as to bring his teammates back to the intensity required.

In layman’s terms, it’s called going the biff.

Zuurhaar naturally most likely. Only coaching holding him back.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Being a WA fan is truly excruciating.

I felt for you today. Two shockers out west.