Warner

[Copernicus]

Didn't do his prospects any harm today. Doesn't look like a 20/20 slogger to me. Plays his shots, yes, but he looked very much in control all innings. Displayed a great temperament actually.

I don't blame him for showing trust in Lyon. At some point, the tailender is going to have to face up - better off making him as comfortable as possible and backing him in. Hell, it very nearly came off. Took a jaffa to knock him off.

 

[Phone]

I thought he handled Lyon very well. Remember Lyon isn't really a number 11. He's pretty good. He's whacked two sixes to win oders plus the 9/21 thing. I rate him with the bat. With 40 runs to get he had to take everything at first and by the end well Lyon showed enough didn't he?

me 9th of sept:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22197485&postcount=92


i had faith baby.

 

[krisholio14]

I just spewed a little in my mouth

Still need a tissue?

Great work on the 100.. BUT HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE WHEN YOUR BATTING WITH A TAILENDER TO CONTINUALLY GIVE HIM THE STRIKE!!!! WTF MAN!!!!

Man... you could of been the hero of the test.

Gimme a break. The guy makes more than double what any other player could make on this pitch, and more than half of the Aussies second innings score, and you want to knock him because he had to take a chance and farm the strike?

He either had to find the boundaries, or trust Lyon. Which ever way he went, the haters were always going to blame him if Australia didn't end up winning, despite the fact they would have been arse r*ped without his contribution.

Agreed, was the batting of a man who hasn't played much FC cricket. Lacks a temperament to go far in Test Cricket, needs to improve that part of his game (hence why he is called a T20 specialist)

Honestly, you should be banned from ever posting on the cricket board again for that comment.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Honestly, you should be banned from ever posting on the cricket board again for that comment.

Cool story bro. Can I flame your opinions and ask for you to be banned because I disagree with you?

 

[krisholio14]

Cool story bro. Can I flame your opinions and ask for you to be banned because I disagree with you?

I don't care if you agree with me or not, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But that comment was, well, totally incorrect.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I don't care if you agree with me or not, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But that comment was, well, totally incorrect.

Other than say it is incorrect.. you have done nothing to disprove the theory, and everything to prove it by acting like a brutish oaf.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Not sure you can blame Warner for not hogging the strike when he's made more than the rest of the recognised batsmen combined. A wonderfully mature and disciplined innings against a bowling attack with its tails up on a seaming pitch. He gave an absolute masterclass in how to score on a tough deck while choosing the right balls to play at.

Add in the fact he's a superb fieldsman both in close and in the deep, and he can bowl a bit of part time leg spin, and he has the tools to be one of the most valuable players in test cricket.

 

[krisholio14]

Other than say it is incorrect.. you have done nothing to disprove the theory, and everything to prove it by acting like a brutish oaf.

Lol oh puhleez!

Have a look at my original reply again precious.

I'd think the fact he just made a mountain more runs than anyone else on that pitch suggests the technical issues of which you speak are a figment of your imagination.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Making a hundred does not absolve him of all blame. He has to share some for not taking the majority of the strike. He had another session in the day, he could have taken one single an over for the entire day if needed.

Also, I never mentioned technical issues, mental issues. There is no need to attack me because I disagree with you.

 

[krisholio14]

Making a hundred does not absolve him of all blame. He has to share some for not taking the majority of the strike. He had another session in the day, he could have taken one single an over for the entire day if needed.

Also, I never mentioned technical issues, mental issues. There is no need to attack me because I disagree with you.

And what if he'd gone out during that session trying to take 8 or 9 overs trying to get the runs needed?

You would have said 'Why didn't he take the runs when they were there?' or 'Why didn't he just have a go?'

And you did mention technical and mental issues - 'Was the batting of a man who hasn't played much FC cricket. Lacks a temperament to go far in Test Cricket, needs to improve that part of his game'. Temperament is certainly a mental issue, and I think it is also a big part of technique too. You didn't see him constantly having a windy whoosh outside off stump like most of his cohorts did you? Because he was able to show temperament to judge each ball on it's merits and play each accordingly.

Considering he was able to hang around and carry his bat through the innings without any help from any of the other recognized batsmen, and put Australia in a position to win a game they would otherwise not have been close to, i'd say that shows his temperament is just fine for test cricket.

And if you think i'm attacking you, you need to harden the **** up. I am vehemently disagreeing with your opinion, because I think it is completely incorrect, but show me where I have attacked you or abused you? You can't because I haven't.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Haterz gonna hate.

Warner is the reason we get even close to the target. To criticise him is just mind boggling...

 

[Noobz0r]

Steve Waugh was always one to show faith in tailenders.

 

[doggies ftw]

He played a perfect innings, left the good ones outside off (which 3/4 of the team couldnt do) blocked the good ones on the stumps and, put away the bad ones.

People saying he should have farmed the strike would be the ones calling for his head if he got out. He couldnt hit 4s because the field was all back, he could have hit 6s but it would have been risky and you guys would be the first to bag him if he got caught trying to hit a 6, the only thing he could do was try to push singles or stay on strike with 0s.

Lyon is really not that bad a batter for a number 11 and was holding himself well, he had to face the ball at some point and when he was he was doing a decent job so why not give take singles and give him a crack.

 

[Sman-21]

Mike hussey is the same with tailenders.
Have faith in them an they relax more an play better.

Thats why steve waugh an Hussey always seem to have gret success with the tail.

Show no faith in them an keep them away from strike an it makes them even more nervous an more chance of them getting out.

Also had Warner of hogged the strike an been caught going for a boundary the haters would of been saying what a hog, should of looked to rotate the stike instead of trying to be a hero an hitting boundaries, just proves hes nothing but a 20/20 player.

He did a great job i still think his best position is at 4 or 5 though.
An my choice of words in calling him a slogger was bad, him gilly an sehwag are hitters, or very attacking batsmen is the words i should of used.
Always believed he could play the longer version of the game.
Just not convinced on the opener idea.

 

[doggies ftw]

I think opener is perfect for him, the way he hits the ball it will lose its hardness very quickly, and he takes the pressure away from the other opener who can go at a slower pace, like how well Hughes and Warner worked last night. Also gives him a chance to play great innings like this one.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Part of me thought Warner would never make a first class player, let alone a Test opener, but the other part of me hoped like hell he would be successful. So glad to see I was wrong.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

Credit where credit is due...

He played a great knock today, very impressed. He may prove to be the shinning light in a summer of pain to follow.

Surely, you can't knock him for anything he did today

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Part of me thought Warner would never make a first class player, let alone a Test opener, but the other part of me hoped like hell he would be successful. So glad to see I was wrong.

Cricket Australia have a potential goldmine here. He's proven he can excel in all three forms of the game (you could even argue his most consistent cricket has been in the Shield with NSW), he is a great fielder in close and in the deep, he can bowl a bit of leg spin and he is a huge draw card for kids. Plus he's only 25 and seems very professional about his cricket.

So it's only natural that CA will screw him up somehow.

 

[Phone]

no he's mostly terrible in oders

 

[aussie1st]

He looks like a guy that will go on with his 100s which is a great attribute to have as a opener.

 

[Maddhew]

no he's mostly terrible in oders

Fair go mate, he hasnt played enough ODI's to be considered terrible. He is averaging above 30 in List A, Gilchrist and Sehwag only averaged 35. Im sure his average will improve in time. Openers rarely get not outs in one dayers, and therefore rarely have averages of 40+

 

[Phone]

i'm saying that as a nsw fan who was on board for the 2 seasons of dire, dire list a form. nothing to do with averages, all to do with not making runs. At the very least I feel he should move back down to 5/6/7

He looks like a guy that will go on with his 100s which is a great attribute to have as a opener.

oh hey watson

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I said he's proven he can excel, as a top score of 165* would suggest. There's no doubt the 50 over format has been his weakest, but it's also the least important anyway.

 

[BarneyBent]

Thought he batted perfectly at the end today. It was always going to be a tall-order, but he hit the right balance of trying to find the boundary and showing faith in his partner. I don't know what the commentators were going on about when they were criticising him for going hard and apparently not showing faith in Lyon (lolwut?). He tried to find the boundaries, but took the singles when they were there.

People are criticising Warner as if we should have won but he failed us at the end, when the reality is that by showing faith in Lyon, he almost, but unfortunately not quite, managed to overcome monstrous odds and deliver us a win we otherwise would not have deserved.

 

[frankrizzo]

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