Weaver mock draft

[Weaver]

Weaver,

Is Nathan Jones of the Jets a chance?

Nathan Jones of the 'Rays? Would have thought Murphy would be the first rover called out with Jones and Douglas vieing to be the second selected.

 

[scooter600x]

Nathan Jones of the 'Rays? Would have thought Murphy would be the first rover called out with Jones and Douglas vieing to be the second selected.

Sorry. Thinking one thing and wrote another.

I meant Nathan Lyons of the Jets.

 

[worthy]

Agreed. Have to respond if you are being quoted though least it look like you have backed down and people assume you were wrong.

I predict that Carlton are in a Hawthorn situation where they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't, if their number one pick is not better than all others that are chosen afterwards. Nothing wrong with Luke Hodge but they are ridiculed for taking his all the time.

We now have a situation where Murphy, Ellis, Hurn, Ryder and Kennedy have been touted as number one selections. Whoever we take has to outperform four others to avoid the club being criticised. People should be dwelling on the positives rather than the negatives IMO.

First part - fair enough.
Second part - probably only damned by people who don't know any better, WC, Hawks & St Kilda would be very happy with who they got in 01, anytime a team gets a player of the quality that they got, they'd be happy. Hopefully it's the case in 05, then in 07 we're dabating who's better because that might mean they're all good.

 

[Weaver]

Weaver, just one more question (for now ) - what's your take on Matt Thomas? Seen him linked to Port in a couple of phantoms, anywhere between 30-60. I may have missed him, but I don't think he's made your list. Reservations?

A lot of times it is more a case of who do you leave out? Thomas is handy but not much more. Shapes as a soldish BP player in time but for mine is not someone clubs will be rushing to pick. More a rookie list player.

Very very tough to get to the AFL as a midfielder. 20-30 candidates all about the same level.

 

[Weaver]

How has Marc Murphy gone from being the only only homerun selection, to now being a part of a strategy to draft a KPP (was pick 8 and athletic, tall, might be better down back) and a midfielder?

Murphy I am certain will be a good player. But whether he is any better than that remains to be seen. Personally I think he will probably end up in the Aussie Jones / Heath Black sort of class-group. No complaints, but perhaps not the best player in the draft. Quite possibly the safest pick though.

On the other hand a good tall ... even a guy who is just solid like Bradshaw, J.Longmuir etc can often be harder to find and more valuable to a team.

I think that Murphy is the only guy in the draft guarenteed to be a 100+ game player, but not guarenteed to be the best player. A guy like Ellis could be a fringe player like Fiora or a top-3 Brownlow guy like Dal Santo. We won't know for 5 years.

 

[Weaver]

Sorry. Thinking one thing and wrote another.

I meant Nathan Lyons of the Jets.

The guys I am getting asked about (Iles, Lonergan, Elliott, Lyons, Thomas) are all midfielders. All are similar. Get a bit of the ball without getting huge amounts ... aren't guys to break away or get from end to end. Vanilla rovers.

Only 6-10 of them are going to get picked up in any year and with spots gone to Murphy, Jones, Douglas, Higgins, Simpkin, Hooper, Seal, White, Grant, Davies and Dunne I probably have too many.

Lyons uses the ball well and is young enough to be in next year. Problem is that for that position it is not enough to be good, not every very good. Want to play in the AFL and you are under 6ft and an inside midfielder ... you have to be exceptional ... and some of these guys just aren't at that high level (IMHO of course).

 

[Cursed Cat]

Great job Cursed_Cat! Good reasoning behind all picks.
Few suggestions though
Stanley at 15 too high for a guy that struggles to kick the footy and will be available at 31 if the Cats are still keen.
Dale Thomas to go within the Top 15.

thanks for the kind words RagingBull - as for the Cats top pick (#15) - I've heard the proverbial strong whisper that they won't be taking Higgins, and that Stanley is the one they want - having said that, I wouldn't be too suprised if they grabbed the best ruckman available with their first pick either ...

As for Mitch Clark sliding through to the Eagles, it may seem a long drop, but it wouldn't suprise me, the earlier selections I've picked are good fits with the teams in question (imo ..)

 

[SimonH]

Last year

I found most of the names ... the order is out of whack (of course).

...

36/60 drafted.
9/60 rookie listed (Thursfield and Pearce look OK)
...

I'm interested in the case of Heath Grundy as a microcosm of how the whole thing works. Picked number 10 by you in 2004, at #19 by footydraft.com, and then completely ignored at the draft and picked up by Sydney at an absolutely desultory #42 in the rookie draft. In the cuppla weeks before the draft, the guy was suddenly so cold he'd had a curse placed on him. I believe his draft camp results weren't all that flash, but apart from that I have no idea what went wrong.

While I haven't seen him play Swans 2nds (except the odd last part of the last quarter), all of the mail is that he's the real deal, and will be promoted to the senior list for 2006. Of course, he's still short of actually playing for the 1sts, much less 'making it', and so we'll only know in perhaps 5 years time whether you guys or the naysayers were right. But given that his first year at the club has been as good as he could have been expected to produce if he was a top 15 or 20 pick, it does raise the question 'what makes clubs fall over themselves about/completely ignore players?'

I suspect that it's like the stock market-- greed and fear. As a result, the emotion and the hype allow urban myths to take hold (whether it's 'he'll be the next Judd' or 'he's too slow') which might bear no resemblance to the actual kid they're attached to.

Looking at the Sydney list alone, they wouldn't have won the premiership without Micky O, O'Keefe, Paul Williams (via Collingwood obviously), Goodes, Buchanan and Schneider... all of whom were picked in the dregs (40 and below) of the draft. Not to mention the likes of Brett Kirk, LRT and Bevan who have been developed as local rookies.

By way of contrast, the list of #1 draftees since 1986 makes relatively depressing reading, although it appears that the strike-rate has improved since the mid-90s.

Even though no doubt recruiting is more sophisticated than 1986 (or even 1996), I suspect that there's still too much faith in statistics and interest from other clubs, rather than the capabilities and the attitude of the player himself. For every Stephen Hooper (1990 #1 draft pick) and Ryan Fitzgerald (1998 #4 pick), there's a kid who could have been a terrific AFL player who never got a go.

 

[Macca19]

Grundy has got me beat. I liked him whenever I saw him last year, whether that be as a defender or forward. At 192 he is probably a few cm short for a true key defender. Thats all I can think of. Very good footballer.

 

[magpies42]

very impressive! i think collingwood take that! abit dissapointing you suggest we cant pick up hurn!

 

[Drummond]

Cannot believe Sam Elliot is not in the top 67. What a joke, he will be a steal.

 

[footyman]

I meant Nathan Lyons of the Jets.

Could be a good late pick this year, showed a bit of good form this year. Every year there are one or two roughies who are plucked out and drafted at bottom age.

Just on the comment you made about the smaller players weaver, I agree with you that 6-10 can only be picked, I think you are underestimating Lonergan and Iles somewhat but it is individual opinion.

Same principle applies for the draft, only takes one club to be keen. What one club likes another will hate.

 

[Fev_1989]

How isnt sam isles in there?

 

[Silvagnis]

Murphy I am certain will be a good player. But whether he is any better than that remains to be seen. Personally I think he will probably end up in the Aussie Jones / Heath Black sort of class-group. No complaints, but perhaps not the best player in the draft. Quite possibly the safest pick though.

On the other hand a good tall ... even a guy who is just solid like Bradshaw, J.Longmuir etc can often be harder to find and more valuable to a team.

I think that Murphy is the only guy in the draft guarenteed to be a 100+ game player, but not guarenteed to be the best player. A guy like Ellis could be a fringe player like Fiora or a top-3 Brownlow guy like Dal Santo. We won't know for 5 years.

Thanks for the good response, but a good poster who is normally on the money has stated Carlton will draft Murphy ahead of a KPP.After previously being set on a tall Carlton have apparently realised Murphy is too good to overlook.I can live with Kennedy and Hurn but I'm not playing favourites in wanting Murphy.

Recruiting Murphy and Hurn will address our lack of ballwinners and leaders which is a great as our lack of KPP.This is even more pressing with our ruck-rover and captain certain to retire after next year.Well, he will when he sees his new contract.

If Carlton bottom out again next year, then I'd prefer we overlook a midfielder when there's arguably greater depth of KPP stock.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Cannot believe Sam Elliot is not in the top 67. What a joke, he will be a steal.

That may be true, but every year steals slip through to the rookie draft, and even go undrafted.

I know that at least from Collingwood, Harry O'Brien has already shown more than a bunch of the players taken in the National Draft will ever show, and he was a second round Rookie Draft pick.

 

[bluebagger]

1. Josh Kennedy – Carlton
Can play CHF or CHB and will be ready to play quite quickly. Good leap and covers a lot of ground, and can take a contested mark. Being able to apprentice in the backline for 2-3 years is an asset. As much as the Blues might want Murphy their bigman stakes need surgery. If they take the best KP player first they are guaranteed one of Murphy, Ellis or Hurn at 4. If they take Murphy first they may leave the draft with two midfielders or have to take Clarke at 4. Kennedy first is good strategy in my book (can’t see Kennedy slipping past the Hawks at 3 who will want to replace Hay).

2. Marc Murphy - Collingwood
Genuine football-smart ball winning rover who makes good decisions and runs to dangerous positions on the ground. Good clean hands and handy around the stoppages. Can kick a goal and is a solid kick. Has maturity and some leadership skills. Will play fairly early and looks a good option to replace Burns. Has a little hint of Cousins in the way he plays, nice upright running style with his eyes always looking down field. Hurn may appeal to them as a typical Collingwood midfielder but Murphy is a better player and more versatile. Hurn isn’t going to break a game open, Murphy might.

3. Xavier Ellis – Hawthorn
Will the Hawks be patient enough to take a long-term prospect (particularly with Tuck f/s already)? Ellis reads the play superbly and is a tidy kick. Would add a genuine wingman to a side which lacks speed and ball carriers. Perfect complement to their inside midfielders and a supplier of goals to their young forwards. Body is a concern, could be Nick Dal Santo, could be Aaron Fiora. Hawks fans will say “Hurn, Hurn, Hurn” but in Mitchell and Lewis they have their extractors, they need a runner. Hawks tend not to like the stickmen though. With extra early picks they may go for a KP player here and look at a receiver later. Hurn they don’t need, Ellis isn’t their type, they’d want Kennedy to slip.

4. Shannon Hurn – Carlton
Blues can accommodate a big-bodied, one-paced centreman. Shapes as a playmaker whose superb kicking will be a lethal weapon if the play can be directed through him. Blues have to build a whole new midfield and he would complement speedsters Walker and Russell well. Tough to judge him because he needs to slim down and get fit and if he does could be a Cameron Ling type ruck-rover. Carlton will be happy to get a guy who can play straight away. Probably going to be a Luke Hodge type cruising around half-back getting kicks behind play. The quality of his kicking would make that worthwhile. If Lappin walks then Hurn would take his job immediately.

5. Mitchell Clarke – Collingwood
Was a preseason number 1 until he was found out as a reluctant contester at the Championships. At 197cm he can pinch-hit in the ruck which will appeal to the Pies who still can’t solve that position. They can put him in the reserves for a year or two to work on the weights and have a replacement for Rocca at CHF. Clarke is quicker, more mobile and has a better leap than T.Cloke so they should combine well. Needs to learn to play body-on-body and to play from in front. At the very least he will have high trade currency in four years time. The leap, and athleticism are too much to ignore and he won’t fall too far.

6. Cleve Hughes – Hawthorn
Franklin shapes as more a mobile flanker, and Roughead probably a CHB. Hughes is more a genuine contester and corridor player who works hard to secure front position and mark in his hands. He and Tom Murphy in the key spots with Franklin playing off them looks a good future forward line. Hughes is not an eye-catcher, more a John Barker type who can create crumbs and do OK when the ball hits the deck. Good long kick. Brings running players into the game with handball – that ability probably suits him to CHF more than FF. What they do here would depend on whether they go or short at 3. If Kennedy falls to 3 they could take Swallow here. Hughes and Dowler are similar and both need gym work.

7. Andrew Swallow - Essendon
Hard to see what direction the Bombers could go in. Pressing need is probably a centre-square midfielder to help Jason Johnson. May feel that they can wait until a later pick or that Cole will do the job. If not perhaps Swallow fits the bill. Can win the ball, run with it and gets goals. Kicking much improved over last year and is clean around the stoppages. Most of their midfield picks over the past couple of years have been outside players, they need a ball-winner to feed them. May like a bigman here but Swallow is best available. Perhaps Austin Lucy to apprentice to Fletcher and Lucas.

8. Beau Dowler – Richmond
Shapes as a mobile CHF in the Ash Hansen style. One who can push up to the wings and mark. Probably best set-shot in the draft so doesn’t need a heap of chances to kick goals. Lacks a little fire in the belly at times and can be hesitant to work the corridor and play in front. Ryder is the other contender but they took a ruckman / forward in Pattison last year and would like someone who covers more ground this year. Needs more gym time than most of the other top-tier bigmen but Richmond are in a re-tooling phase so won’t mind. Can also play CHB which will appeal to the Tigers who have veterans Kellaway and Gaspar to plan for.

9. Austin Lucy – Brisbane
Homegrown FB / CHB with genuine size and quite a bit of mobility. Has a good attack on the ball and is prepared to run the ball out of defence. Thumping kick, needs to hit a few more targets. Bit of a question mark over whether he might end up a bit too bulky and lose some mobility, already a big unit. Have been recruiting midfielders in the main and need to plan for Leppitsch, Michael and Bradshaw retiring. Like his loud voice and organising ability in the backline. Being local won’t hurt. Perhaps a little behind Spangher and Bower at the moment, but has more upside going forward.

10. Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls – Fremantle
A genuine wingman with real flair. Kicks the ball well, has some tricks and pace, and at 186cm has enough height that you can kick to him on the switch of play. Wide open spaces of Subi should suit. Freo need some extra dash through the middle and someone to kick to leading forwards. Again being a local boy won’t hurt. Ryder might be the other option for them to add depth to the forward line. Oakley-Nicholls’ flair will appeal to a rather pedestrian, workmanlike outfit.

I've only seen these guys play really at the U-18 Championships, and I'm sure you've seen a lot more than that, Weaver, but I think your top ten is gonna be pretty wrong.

I don't think Carlton would use the No.1 pick as part of a strategy like you suggest, the best and the only strategy with No.1 is to take the best available player, and that isn't Josh Kennedy, it's Marc Murphy. You don't want to get into second guessing other teams. If we don't pick Murphy, Collingwood would snap him up at 2, whereas Kennedy could go anywhere between 2 and 6. We'd be better off taking Murphy at 1 and letting the cards fall where they may. If Collingwood and Hawthorn go for midfielders in Hurn and Ellis, we could still get Kennedy at 4 and if they choose talls, we could get Ellis or Hurn. That's the strategy to go with.

I don't think Hawthorn will be looking at Kennedy as a replacement for Hay, and there seem to be plenty of good talls available in the top 20, so I personally think they will go for whichever one of Ellis and Hurn is available. Pat Ryder will go in the top 10 for sure as well.

For what it's worth, here's my guess at a top 10:

1. Carlton - Marc Murphy - simply the best player in the draft. Quick, clever, wins his own ball, and genuine leadership material. Pretty much the complete package, other than height, but Cousins, Kerr, Crawford and so on are the same height or smaller and it hasn't hurt them one iota, so there's no reason it would hurt Murphy. Will look great in navy blue!

2. Collingwood - Xavier Ellis - quick, excellent foot skills and reads the play well. A touch of class, although he's years off having an AFL body.

3. Hawthorn - Shannon Hurn - OP diminished his chances to play midfield this year, but that's where he'll play and unlike Ellis who could snap like a twig is unlikely to be pushed around by anyone. They'd probably be looking for a quicker type, but with shortarses like Crawford and Mitchell won't mind having a big lad in there.

4. Carlton - Josh Kennedy - the only key position player without any real questions on him...should be a good addition to the forward line, freeing Lance up to hold down CHB.

5. Collingwood - Pat Ryder - with Fraser playing a forward role more often, the ruck is an area of need and Ryder's the best available. Height is a slight concern, but he's still growing and has the athleticism to make up for it.

6. Hawthorn - Beau Dowler - good overhead mark and set shot, but lacks a bit of natural fire and competitiveness which is why he won't go higher. Still a very talented forward prospect.

7. Essendon - Nathan Jones - midfield is the worry for the Bombers with too much of a reliance on Jason Johnson and a tough contested ball winner who runs all day is just what the doctor ordered. Should be ready to play plenty of footy next year.

8. Richmond - Andrew Swallow - need reinforcements with the retirement of Campbell and a quick ball winner like Swallow should fill the breach nicely.

9. Brisbane - Mitchell Clarke - not saying that he's a klepto/alco/druggo, but there's a touch of Laurence Angwin about him...has all the talent and athleticism but doesn't seem to care. Still, it's hard to find big men with his talent and Lethal will swoop.

10. Fremantle - Travis Varcoe - hasn't played much footy this year, but is supposed to be a big talent with pace, and the Freo midfield could use some more of that.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

^^^ I think other than the Varcoe pick (don't think he'll go quite that early) you've got it pretty much right...

Maybe the Swallow pick as well, perhaps switch him and Clark. Richmond still have Coughlan, Tuck, Johnson, Deledio and Tambling to use in the midfield.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

A lot of times it is more a case of who do you leave out? Thomas is handy but not much more. Shapes as a soldish BP player in time but for mine is not someone clubs will be rushing to pick. More a rookie list player.

Very very tough to get to the AFL as a midfielder. 20-30 candidates all about the same level.

Cheers for that and congrats on your work and answering all the questions. It's great to have someone willing to put the time in to give people who have no idea about these kids (like me) an informed opinion.

 

[blaisee]

i believe dempsey will fly up the draft into the first round. St kilda will not let him get past their pick

Clarke didnt interview well at all and will fall almost to the second round


the knock on hurn is his pace again will slip to 12+

my top 10

1 murphy
2 ellis
3 kennedy
4 ryder
5 dowler
6 oakley nicholls
7 hughes
8 dempsey
9 lucy
10 varcoe

 

[Lingsface]

I might as well give it a crack....my top 10.

#1 Marc Murphy-Carlton
Carlton need an all round skillful hard running footballer like a shane crawford type, i think murphy is a guarantedd good player but does have that ball winning ability to be a very very good player if all goes well.

#2 Xavier Ellis- Collingwood
Classy half back/midfielder that would be an ultimate replacment for a guy like buckley (in terms of someone to set up plays with their sublime skills), also could be the type of player that could develop into the new face of collingwood and be a real franchise player. reason for goin number 2 little bit more risky than murphy/

#3 Josh Kennedy- Hawthorn
First KPP player to be taken i think because of his continual improvement and talent, is 195 cm and is hard to seperate between team mates mitch clarke and pat ryder, but my reason to rating him highest is because he looks better at ground level and seems to have that little bit more aggression than ryder and clarke. Kennedy Roughhead and Franklin could develop into a very very good spine for hawthorn.

#4 Beau Dowler Carlton
Carlton need a good chf/ff type for the future as whitnall seems to have totally lost it, Dowler impressed me and looked to be a step ahead in 18s carnival in terms of his one on one marking seemed to be good on the lead and have good strength.

#5 Pat Ryder Collingwood
Collingwood has Travis Cloke coming through but thats about it in terms of good talls, they are in desperate need of a skillful ruckmen if frasers injury problems continue they went for the not to football knowledgeble fanning last year (who looks like he could be good) but i think they need someone with ryders footballing ability to have the perfect mix in the ruck also ryder has the ability to go forward to ease the work load on tarrant and cloke.

#6 Shannon Hurn Hawthorn
Looks to be a solid footballer with good football skills dosnt look like he has any really star like attributes, although probably will prove me wrong, could be very handy in freeing up hodge and allowing him to play a more attacking role, as Hurn looks comfortable in the back half either switching or being on the end of a switch.

#7 Jarryd Oakley Nicholls Essendon
Essendon needs a large injection of pace in there midfield and if we were to add another east perth aboriginal boy to the essendon wing/midfield no ones going to catch them....(this being lovett and lovett murray.)

#8 Cleve Hughes Richmond
Richo isnt getting any younger and a replacement is needed hughes seems to be the best available at pick #8,

9 Nathan Jones Brisbane
Love the look of this guy has voss like qualities and could be a leader of a club one day i think, Matthews has drafted some good less developed youngsters in selwood etc but i think jones will appeal to him and the recruiting managers.

10 Richard Douglas Fremantle
Dont now why this guy isnt rated higher from all reports sounds awesome, skillful smart, with good mixture of pace and stamina.

 

[bluebagger]

^^^ I think other than the Varcoe pick (don't think he'll go quite that early) you've got it pretty much right...

Maybe the Swallow pick as well, perhaps switch him and Clark. Richmond still have Coughlan, Tuck, Johnson, Deledio and Tambling to use in the midfield.

The Varcoe pick is a gamble, but the reason I put him there is because he is talked about as a huge talent, and was rated as a possible top 5 pick before his injuries, so I think there's a possibility he'll go earlier than expected as some teams will look at the talent rather than his injuries this year.

As for Clark, I don't think Richmond will take him because they already have two forward/ruckman types like him in Simmonds and Adam Pattison. You can have too many talls in your forward line, but you can never have enough classy onballers, and the likes of Deledio and Tambling can play up forward as well.

 

[dougthelegend]

Kennedy will be top three IMO, if Carlton want him they'll have to use #1 to get him. I agree with Weaver in that if they want both a good KP and midfielder from the their early picks taking Kennedy at one would be the way to go. They lose a great player in Marc Murphy, but there a couple of more than handy midfield options that would be available at 4.

Of course the other option is Murphy 1 and best remaining tall at 4, as there is a (SLIM) chance Kennedy could slip to 4, but there is no way Murphy would.

As far as Essendon is concerned, I'm not quite sure who we'll take at 7, a lot will depend on who goes 4-6, theres some quality talls in this draft so we may look to take another as theres a genuine need for KPP defenders on our list, someone to eventually take FB, I believe we'll continue to stock up on talls early especially with Richards gone and Henneman on his last chance.

 

[Vidman]

9. Austin Lucy – Brisbane
Homegrown FB / CHB with genuine size and quite a bit of mobility. Has a good attack on the ball and is prepared to run the ball out of defence. Thumping kick, needs to hit a few more targets. Bit of a question mark over whether he might end up a bit too bulky and lose some mobility, already a big unit. Have been recruiting midfielders in the main and need to plan for Leppitsch, Michael and Bradshaw retiring. Like his loud voice and organising ability in the backline. Being local won’t hurt. Perhaps a little behind Spangher and Bower at the moment, but has more upside going forward.

25. Todd Grima - Brisbane
Grima has a lot of similar qualities to Barry Hall, quick on the lead, needs to learn to mark more in his hands because chest marking will take him only so far in the AFL. Tends to struggle to be involved when he is not the go-to guy. Needs to find a way to stay involved. Would be a good complement to Brown playing closer to goals. May prefer the local Michael West if they have good medical reports on him. Concern is that most of his good games were on C-grade opponents.

41. Jace Bode – Brisbane
Lions need to look to add some midfield depth to surround Adcock, Sherman and their next generation going forward. Bode is a big body, tends not to run with the ball, more an old-fashioned pivot centreman. Will need to learn to play inside and not to accumulate touches by going to the wings where he doesn’t have AFL standard pace. Uses the ball well, and is prepared to kick on either foot

57. Garrick Ibbotson – Brisbane
Has been hurt a little by being a spare-part player. With other midfield options in the WA team he was drafted in a fullback and then a flanker. The powerful East Freo junior side pushed him out on the flanks a lot. In other teams he would have played 100 minutes a week in the centre and probably jumped up the draft order. A big-body, strong at the ball, good overhead and reads the game well. Just lacks that little extra something to lift him above the others, but is very bottom age so has improvement left in him.




Awesome post Weaver, may I propose a contender for Post Of The Year?

I only know Brisbane so can only comment on their draft. Only one doubtful on your logic is Grima, with West still available, think they would go for the home grown player if they are as close as you think in quality terms.

Only other comment is that Bradshaw isnt actually that old, he's been around a bit though, think hes only 26

Brisbane seem to make great late round selections, much better round 2 and 3 than round 1. Thinking Black rather than McGrath, and B.MacDonald rather than Spaanderman. The only thing I can put it down to is that they tend to look for quality players who have slipped a bit. Wood and Sherman last year I think were both supposed to go a bit higher. Black slipped because of an alleged lack of speed. Just a thought for any future revisions, it's a trend i've noticed in their picks, safe with the early picks (don't neccesarily work out) and risk takers with later picks (quite often do)

Think you should team up with footydraft, as although theirs is a great site, they still dont have reviews up on players like Lucy. Agree with you on him, there is no way he goes past Brisbane with 9.

Great post once again.

 

[Weaver]

Only other comment is that Bradshaw isnt actually that old, he's been around a bit though, think hes only 26

27 next month, but as we're seeing with Brennan it takes 3-4 years for a kid to come through and claim a key position. Bradshaw has taken a lot of punishment and is unlikely to play much beyond 32. So I think it is a good time to begin thinking about getting kids in to replace Michael, Leppitsch and Bradshaw down the track.

Brisbane seem to make great late round selections, much better round 2 and 3 than round 1. ... Just a thought for any future revisions, it's a trend i've noticed in their picks, safe with the early picks (don't neccesarily work out) and risk takers with later picks (quite often do)

From where I sit Brisbane have a proven knack of not getting too clever and not trying to 'invent' picks.

Guys like Wood and Adcock were top-notch juniors and while other clubs are recruiting for need, or looking for 'upside' or match-winners, they simply call the name of guys who are good footballers.

Most people here on BigFooty were in love with Selwood, Adcock and Attard.

If things keep going the way they have been ... there will be clubs naming guys who have played 2 seasons of footy, kids who have only played schoolboys, kids who don't know a steak sandwich looks like etc ... and Brisbane will get to pick 25 and call Richard Douglas and we'll all scratch our heads again about how clubs keeping letting good footballers fall to Brisbane who make the simple decisions well.

 

[whirl]

Great work Weaver, and thanks for the effort.

I never get too hung up on the order these mock drafts are put in, but I certainly enjoy all the info.

Cheers