Club Focus West Coast Eagles 2025

[Ticky009]

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[THE_GUN]

Mature quality good players do help lift the floor
but also mature good players that leave also offset that

Losing Allen , Ryan , McGovern , Chesser ( who had a good year last year )

Half full v Half empty

 

[txbyhull]

Mature quality good players do help lift the floor
but also mature good players that leave also offset that

Losing Allen , Ryan , McGovern , Chesser ( who had a good year last year )

Half full v Half empty

only tangible loss there is Gov

 

[bzparkes]

only tangible loss there is Gov

Plus we get Waterman and Yeo back.

 

[THE_GUN]

only tangible loss there is Gov

Ryan was your 2nd highest goal kicker with no replacement ready to go
Chesser played very well last year in the games i seen and your supporters were jumping with joy ( until he wanted to leave)

Allen was your captain and injured and probably a good reason why your team could not convert
McGovern - As you mentioned massive loss

 

[briztoon]

Improvement, as in climbing the ladder.

Improvement, as in improving the best 23.

And I clearly clarified for season 2026.

When I said West Coast didn't improve their midfield, I meant they didn't add a midfielder better than their current mids. And I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Tylar Young when West Coast was linked to him. I don't know if he's ready to step in to McGovern's shoes.

 

[Shueygod]

Mature quality good players do help lift the floor
but also mature good players that leave also offset that

Losing Allen (12 games) , Ryan , McGovern (6 games) , Chesser (4 games )

Half full v Half empty

Starcevich, Young, Waterman, Yeo will be far more productive than that group this year.


You said Chesser had a good year, he played 4 games. Get a clue mate.

Improvement, as in climbing the ladder.

Improvement, as in improving the best 23.

And I clearly clarified for season 2026.

When I said West Coast didn't improve their midfield, I meant they didn't add a midfielder better than their current mids. And I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Tylar Young when West Coast was linked to him. I don't know if he's ready to step in to McGovern's shoes.

“When I said West Coast midfield won’t improve at all, I actually meant something completely different despite arguing about it across multiple posts”.

Nice backtrack.

 

[bzparkes]

Improvement, as in climbing the ladder.

Improvement, as in improving the best 23.

And I clearly clarified for season 2026.

When I said West Coast didn't improve their midfield, I meant they didn't add a midfielder better than their current mids. And I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Tylar Young when West Coast was linked to him. I don't know if he's ready to step in to McGovern's shoes.

What players currently in the side, who played midfield this season, are better than Macrae, Roberston, Shoenberg, Yeo and Duursma(training with the mids)?

Hall - Probably on par with the 3 mature blokes. Worked his arse off to improved his tank over summer, which was his big knock.

Gross - Needs to build his fitness. S&C team have flogged him hard in the preseason to improve.

Hough - Not a midfielder.

Graham - Part timer.

Hewett - Didn't spend FT minutes in the midfield and usually started HFF. Worked hard on fitness this preseason as it's his first fully uninterrupted one so far after 2+ years of foot issues stemming from his draft year.

Ryan - Gone. Played a part time role in CBDs.

Brockman - Like Ryan, played a PT role in CBDs

Hutchinson - Played a lot of midfield but was very fumbly. Now has a foot issue and is out of action for about 10 weeks. Any of the 5 mentioned at the start would be higher production.

Dewar - been a bit inconsistent. Had some good games though.

Davis - 1st year player, played some ok games on the wing/hff.

Baker - Played bit of midfield to settle the side when there was only 1st and 2nd year players in there.

Reid - Obviously our best mid and it's not close.

TK - Shit year. Dropped twice, pulled his finger out a bit on his second return.

McCarthy - Moving into the midfield FT this year after playing there late last year without training with them.

So we're basically going from Harley Reid and Hall + a mix of young players and flankers, so having 4 additional mids added in + the #1 draft pick and the mature-aged Tom McCarthy.

If you can't see 5(6 with McCarthy, who's shown he's more than capable) midfielders added, who are better than all bar Harley Reid, as not 'improving the side', then you don't know as much about WCE as you like to convince us you do.

As an aside, on Young, he was Richmond's best defender last year. Also, not sure too many KPDs in the competition could walk into a side to replace a 5x All Australian.

 

[briztoon]

“When I said West Coast midfield won’t improve at all, I actually meant something completely different despite arguing about it across multiple posts”.

Nice backtrack.

Show me!

Go and direct quote me. Start with my first post in this discussion, and quote each subsequent post.

 

[briztoon]

Pretty sure this was the first post. Reads pretty much like the last post of mine. Have at it.

I believe the Eagles are still in for another season of pain, and probably ask for more help from the AFL at the end of the season.

I don't know if any of the three senior rookies move the needle at all. Not at AFL level. I just don't see any improvement in the midfield. And two of their first three draftees should be starting their careers in the backline, and with recent drafting and trading, I don't know if their is space in the back seven for both draftees.

 

[Shueygod]

Pretty sure this was the first post. Reads pretty much like the last post of mine. Have at it.

I stated some the young players (who led our midfield this year) development as a counter to you not seeing “any improvement in the midfield” and you continued to argue.

At such a point if you were to correct your original statement and say that you didn’t see much external improvement specifically in the midfield,I would have been fine with that as I hope the kids improve enough where the three mature rookies aren’t best 23.

Instead you doubled (quintupled) down and are only now backtracking and claiming you actually meant external improvement.

Could have saved us both some time.

 

[briztoon]

I stated some the young players (who led our midfield this year) development as a counter to you not seeing “any improvement in the midfield” and you continued to argue.

Yup. And I replied that’s not enough. Not for 2026. The kids might improve, and I explained you don’t have enough senior quality around them to make any type of difference at all.

At such a point if you were to correct your original statement and say that you didn’t see much external improvement specifically in the midfield,I would have been fine with that as I hope the kids improve enough where the three mature rookies aren’t best 23.

Instead you doubled (quintupled) down and are only now backtracking and claiming you actually meant external improvement.

Haven’t back tracked at all. Go point it out.

West Coast legitimately haven’t improved their midfield since drafting Harley Reid.

I said that when you traded for Baker and signed Graham last year. Took three quarters of the season, but most on your board started to cringe at their performance in the game day threads.

Robertson and the other two don’t move the needle.

West Coast are starting to become the inverse of North. Drafting all other positions, while neglecting the midfield.

Could have saved us both some time.

 

[Shueygod]

Yup. And I replied that’s not enough. Not for 2026. The kids might improve, and I explained you don’t have enough senior quality around them to make any type of difference at all.


Haven’t back tracked at all. Go point it out.

West Coast legitimately haven’t improved their midfield since drafting Harley Reid.

I said that when you traded for Baker and signed Graham last year. Took three quarters of the season, but most on your board started to cringe at their performance in the game day threads.

Robertson and the other two don’t move the needle.

West Coast are starting to become the inverse of North. Drafting all other positions, while neglecting the midfield.

Semantics but “West Coast haven’t improved their midfield”, is different to “I don’t see any improvement in their midfield”.

Simple english, and again if you meant the former the conversation should have ended when I highlighted all the possible internal improvement that would have an impact.

 

[briztoon]

Semantics but “West Coast haven’t improved their midfield”, is different to “I don’t see any improvement in their midfield”.

Simple english, and again if you meant the former the conversation should have ended when I highlighted all the possible internal improvement that would have an impact.

And we’re back to going around in circles. Already had this discussion. Started back on about page 8.

 

[ghostbat12]

I meant they didn't add a midfielder better than their current mids.

pfft if you are going to be knob with selection of words, then neither did Brisbane, which means they are going backwards in 2026.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yup. And I replied that’s not enough. Not for 2026. The kids might improve, and I explained you don’t have enough senior quality around them to make any type of difference at all.


Haven’t back tracked at all. Go point it out.

West Coast legitimately haven’t improved their midfield since drafting Harley Reid.

I said that when you traded for Baker and signed Graham last year. Took three quarters of the season, but most on your board started to cringe at their performance in the game day threads.

Robertson and the other two don’t move the needle.

West Coast are starting to become the inverse of North. Drafting all other positions, while neglecting the midfield.

Here you go again.

"Dont have enough senior quality around them to make any type of difference at all."

Noted.

ANY type of difference?

Flynn as the mature ruck, picks up niggles but when fit is solid.
Yeo. Wont add anything even when fit?
Kelly. Wont add much support after a couple of poor years.
Graham, had a good 1st season. But nah, he wont help the kids much.
Baker, more a utility but does attack contests. Won the B&F. But nah, he wont make any type of difference adding pressure.
Duggan, likely pushed out of the back 6, captain. Yea nah, he wont make any difference supporting the kids either.

Macrae, 22 couldnt get regular midfield minutes at Collingwood. He won't help the WAFL midfield develop faster?
Shoenberg, coming back from a knee injury couldnt break into the minor premiers inside midfield. He wont assist the WAFL side and add selection pressure?

And your favourite Dev Roberston. Couldnt break into the premiers midfield, limited opportunity and killed it in the VFL. Dev, wont add anything either?

That's nine mature age mids / utilities on the list to support the kids development at AFL and WAFL level.

But you cant see them making ANY difference.

Bookmarked.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Improvement, as in climbing the ladder.

Improvement, as in improving the best 23.

And I clearly clarified for season 2026.

When I said West Coast didn't improve their midfield, I meant they didn't add a midfielder better than their current mids. And I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Tylar Young when West Coast was linked to him. I don't know if he's ready to step in to McGovern's shoes.

You been going on and on about Dev Robertson being a starting mid next year and we didnt add a midfielder better then our current mids?

Which of the two is it?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Mature quality good players do help lift the floor
but also mature good players that leave also offset that

Losing Allen , Ryan , McGovern , Chesser ( who had a good year last year )

Half full v Half empty

Chesser played 4 games and is no loss at all, actually laughable to suggest he is

Gov played 6. Allen played 12 but sucked in most of them. Waterman back more than offsets him

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Always weirds me out when people come here and are like "Ive never heard of this guy who played 35 games in 3 seasons but here is my detailed list analysis of another teams entire list" . If you dont know who Tylar Young is then how the hell would you know who Elijah Hewett is for example or Harry Edwards even and then comment on their abilities.

Its illogical completely

 

[briztoon]

Here you go again.

"Dont have enough senior quality around them to make any type of difference at all."

Noted.

ANY type of difference?

Flynn as the mature ruck, picks up niggles but when fit is solid.
Yeo. Wont add anything even when fit?
Kelly. Wont add much support after a couple of poor years.
Graham, had a good 1st season. But nah, he wont help the kids much.
Baker, more a utility but does attack contests. Won the B&F. But nah, he wont make any type of difference adding pressure.
Duggan, likely pushed out of the back 6, captain. Yea nah, he wont make any difference supporting the kids either.

Macrae, 22 couldnt get regular midfield minutes at Collingwood. He won't help the WAFL midfield develop faster?
Shoenberg, coming back from a knee injury couldnt break into the minor premiers inside midfield. He wont assist the WAFL side and add selection pressure?

And your favourite Dev Roberston. Couldnt break into the premiers midfield, limited opportunity and killed it in the VFL. Dev, wont add anything either?

That's nine mature age mids / utilities on the list to support the kids development at AFL and WAFL level.

But you cant see them making ANY difference.

Bookmarked.

Pretty much.

Pity I didn’t bookmark a shed load of your posts over years.

 

[briztoon]

You been going on and on about Dev Robertson being a starting mid next year and we didnt add a midfielder better then our current mids?

Which of the two is it?

lol where?

I haven’t said that on your board or here.

Either you have me confused for someone else, or you’re making sh!t up.

 

[briztoon]

Always weirds me out when people come here and are like "Ive never heard of this guy who played 35 games in 3 seasons but here is my detailed list analysis of another teams entire list" . If you dont know who Tylar Young is then how the hell would you know who Elijah Hewett is for example or Harry Edwards even and then comment on their abilities.

Its illogical completely

Because I’ve been on the Eagles board for four years. Not on the Richmond board.

 

[THE_GUN]

Chesser played 4 games and is no loss at all, actually laughable to suggest he is

Gov played 6. Allen played 12 but sucked in most of them. Waterman back more than offsets him

And thats why your team had only 1 win
No replacements of quality except the 4th stringer from Richmond which is no Gov

 

[bzparkes]

4th stringer?

 

[THE_GUN]

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4th stringer?

LOl
Yep 4th stringer at best 27 year old with 35 games coming off a knee injury and played a few games last year whilst Miller was the best defender and young was allowed to play loose.

Your supporters will see he is a 4th stringer
but who knows maybe he will be your best tall defender with no competition there

 

[Shueygod]

Because I’ve been on the Eagles board for four years. Not on the Richmond board.

And how many Eagles games have you watched the last two?