What would you trade for inevitable North Melbourne Priority Pick (2024)?

[Purple Suit]

Sounds like a very targetted equalisation measure only effecting four clubs.

Cannot for the life of me see any problems with that

It's only adjusting the targeted advantages that only get offered to four clubs. If you can't see a problem with that, then I'm surprised you get upset if someone suggests reducing it in the short term.

 

[Purple Suit]

Picking up kids that will likely have no impact for a few years will do nothing as well, at least in the short term. And short term competitiveness is the problem that priority picks are supposed to solve.

How about loaning players to North from other clubs at the mid season draft. All clubs can offer up 1-2 players, North add who they want for the rest of the year. Any player who performs well and they want to keep gets the transfer pick paid for by the AFL with a 25-50% points bonus added. The initial trade value is figured out on Big Footy.

It's a competitive try before Dad buys it for you.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Picking up kids that will likely have no impact for a few years will do nothing as well, at least in the short term. And short term competitiveness is the problem that priority picks are supposed to solve.

Agree it’s got to be a combination

So start of first round priority pick which we’ve still never received
Plus extra salary cap relief so we can target mature players

One or the other by itself is not going to do anything

 

[PenfoldsFan]

We'd probably give 'em an MG.

Actually, Fabian Francis is probably due a new MG for delivering the brilliant JHF to us on a silver platter.
North can have his trade in.

 

[Saab NLAW]

Actually not bad.

Just widen it to ability to opt in to each clubs next F/S as well and sounds good to go

That's a great idea, Levi Ashcroft to North.

Nice work

 

[Saab NLAW]

Sounds like a very targetted equalisation measure only effecting four clubs.

Cannot for the life of me see any problems with that

Of course you don't, you're a Sydney fan and used to having massive advantages over the rest of the competition. Imagine Sydney being forced to compete on a lever playing field

 

[EconomicDecline]

Maybe North shouldn’t be so obsessed with being debt free and actually invest by bringing on some debt.

 

[SSSSSS]

Imagine paying 1.6 million a year to hear "We know where we are at" every week after another 10 goal drubbing.

I'd be livid.

 

[Membling]

That's a great idea, Levi Ashcroft to North.

Nice work

I know, Kalani White in 2025 too!

Had a reply written up about your next comment but you are a broken record who cannot see their own clubs advantages, so will leave it.

 

[daniel_4tw]

No.

As recent as last year, they let a restricted 26 year old Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

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202cm

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104kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

go for a shiny new draft pick.

They continue to focus on youth over proven solid players that help them on the field today.

If they want to improve, go trade Sheezel and Wardlaw for an established 27-28 year that will make them better TODAY.

Don’t want to do that and instead want to focus on getting as many young players as possible? Then fine. But that’s their choice.

North are 100% to blame for the situation they are in and they should fix it themselves. Another 18 year old kid won’t help them win games in 2024.

 

[Saab NLAW]

I know, Kalani White in 2025 too!

Had a reply written up about your next comment but you are a broken record who cannot see their own clubs advantages, so will leave it.

I am more than happy for competition to lose F/S selections if it will stop the rort that Sydney gets.

Sydney fans are so used to handouts it's not an expectation from your lot. So hypocritical but what do you expect from an organization that takes money from Qatar

 

[Rob]

Agree it’s got to be a combination

No, it doesn't have to be a combination at all. You have enough kids - or you should from years at the bottom. You need players that have an impact now. That is not more kids.

So start of first round priority pick which we’ve still never received
Plus extra salary cap relief so we can target mature players

One or the other by itself is not going to do anything

Bad luck then. Next time recruit better.

 

[sexyhunk]

No.

As recent as last year, they let a restricted 26 year old Ben McKay go for a shiny new draft pick.

They continue to focus on youth over proven solid players that help them on the field today.

If they want to improve, go trade Sheezel and Wardlaw for an established 27-28 year that will make them better TODAY.

Don’t want to do that and instead want to focus on getting as many young players as possible? Then fine. But that’s their choice.

North are 100% to blame for the situation they are in and they should fix it themselves. Another 18 year old kid won’t help them win games in 2024.

to be fair ben mckay didnt want to stay. you cant force players to sign a new contract with another club. Yeah they could have matched, but that would only force essendon to trade. mckay would still leave.

 

[Mofra]

Nothing.

AFL should instead engineer some sort of soft-cap concession that gives them an extra development coach or something.
They need to start developing the elite talent they get into the place. Throwing more wet wood on a fire that won't start solves nothing.

 

[Slysh]

The problem with all these ideas is they all negatively effect other teams.

'Extra cap space' - How is that fair on teams who will be losing required players because they can not match the amount of money being thrown around.

'Extra soft cap space' - Again these teams will be losing required staff members because of an unfair advantage.

'Extra early draft picks' - Pushing back and hurting other rebuilding teams can't be the answer.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Nothing.

AFL should instead engineer some sort of soft-cap concession that gives them an extra development coach or something.
They need to start developing the elite talent they get into the place. Throwing more wet wood on a fire that won't start solves nothing.

No soft cap concessions - especially for that club.

WCE (and no doubt other clubs) had to severely cut their footy department staff during COVID and have not returned to Pre-COVID operations - completely because of the introduced cap that was designed to help the likes of North Melbourne keep their lights on during COVID.

NM has since lobbied the league to keep the soft cap as low as possible in the name of equity - ie. ‘We can’t afford as much, so nobody else should be able to pay their people more without large penalties’.

It would be a complete joke (or at least continue to be) if North then get a concession to spend more without penalty - the other clubs wouldn’t stand for it.

 

[Farang83150]

No soft cap concessions - especially for that club.

WCE (and no doubt other clubs) had to severely cut their footy department staff during COVID and have not returned to Pre-COVID operations - completely because of the introduced cap that was designed to help the likes of North Melbourne keep their lights on during COVID.

NM has since lobbied the league to keep the soft cap as low as possible in the name of equity - ie. ‘We can’t afford as much, so nobody else should be able to pay their people more without large penalties’.

It would be a complete joke (or at least continue to be) if North then get a concession to spend more without penalty - the other clubs wouldn’t stand for it.

"NM has since lobbied the league to keep the soft cap as low as possible"

Didn't realise that.
So fk'm, they've had enough handouts, sink or swim.

 

[southern_crusher]

If they were a race horse they would of been put down by now.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

If they were a race horse they would of been put down by now.

would have been glue several years ago.

 

[Engimal v3]

NM has since lobbied the league to keep the soft cap as low as possible in the name of equity - ie. ‘We can’t afford as much, so nobody else should be able to pay their people more without large penalties’.

It would be a complete joke (or at least continue to be) if North then get a concession to spend more without penalty - the other clubs wouldn’t stand for it.

Source for this? I hadn't read that, but I know North petitioned the AFL for additional soft cap space last year so I'm interested to see how that lines up with what you've read.

 

[FlyHigh18]

They've already had Priority Picks 19 and 20 in this years draft, there won't be any more.

North are a drain on the AFL and in terms of importance of clubs they're 19th. Fitzroy had their licence taken away for being less crap than North are right now.

Other clubs won't allow another round of North begging bowl this year. Got to either make a go of it as the smallest fish in the biggest pond or get out.

• We were all around to watch half a billion of tax payer funds go into improving Adelaide's home ground and turn both teams into proper clubs. Or when Adelaide continued to receive $1m a year after "begging" to help fix its finances and set them on the way to become what it is now.
• We all saw $12m+ handed to Port on a silver platter to save them going under or when Essendon received similar to build state of the art facilities on a farm.
• We were around when GC were allowed to have a record four 'academy' picks in the first round.
• We saw Geelong receive $340 million in tax payer handouts to boost their advantage ... and then some... and again.
• We witnessed clubs get allocated prestigious academy zones while others were taken away.
• We all also saw Carlton handed pick #1... twice (or was it three?)... Melbourne, West Coast and Collingwood to name a few.
• We saw North be given picks 19, 20, 30 something and 40 something instead.
• We all saw when North finished last and was not allowed to pick the best player in the draft... twice.

Charity, sucking funds, assistance and lifting up the bowl comes in many many forms to prop clubs up. You may have a short memory of them but I don't.

Shut up and sit the fk down.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Source for this? I hadn't read that, but I know North petitioned the AFL for additional soft cap space last year so I'm interested to see how that lines up with what you've read.

This article from covers some interesting areas in this regard:

The AFL ripped $63m from clubs. Now they’re split on how they want it paid back

 

[ibd77]

Waiting for the next 1st rounder to request a trade.

 

[big_e]

Waiting for the next 1st rounder to request a trade.

Fun fact: Port Adelaide have had a first round draft pick request a trade more recently than North Melbourne.

 

[Mat Mann]

The problem with all these ideas is they all negatively effect other teams.

'Extra cap space' - How is that fair on teams who will be losing required players because they can not match the amount of money being thrown around.

'Extra soft cap space' - Again these teams will be losing required staff members because of an unfair advantage.

'Extra early draft picks' - Pushing back and hurting other rebuilding teams can't be the answer.

I'd endorse the lowering of the salary cap floor, a rebuilding club has to grossly overpay players to reach that floor, and then can't outspend to draw senior talent, too many ways for clubs at the top to sidestep the cap, like the 110% for x years, North should have multiple millions in space but the rules prevent them.