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they are about the same.. you can't really split them, all 3 teams are apart of the big 3.
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They are pretty much the same. I truly believe Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon are the 'big 3'; and that Richmond no longer should be part of the 'big 4'. Maybe Geelong/Hawthorn could be part of it; but they'd need sustained success for at least another 15 years to be considered.
Watch the showdowns if you want rivalry.

Yeah I think the big 4 has become the big 3 now - Coll, Carl, Ess.
The only thing Richmond retain is a large supporter base, which has been dormant for the past 30 years.
But Coll v Carl definitely the biggest rivalry. It really bugs me how the AFL always schedule Coll v Rich for rivalry round, when the whole nation understands Coll v Carl as the two most spiteful rivals.
And where's Coll v Ess as a rivalry?
For me, Coll-Ess hatred intensified while Carlton were swimming at the bottom for most of this decade.
Coll-Ess have a few things to hate each other about:
- 1990 GF
- Yearly ANZAC clashes
- The battle to be the most popular and richest Victorian club
hmmm, i think if you have a look at the books, a Certain club located in Mulgrave has overtaken the pies in that area
of corse, fi the Anzac clashes werent their, i doubt there would be such a big thing for Pies and Dons fans.
Hawthorn's the richest Victorian club, even though Essendon just landed the largest sponsorship deal of all time, and Collingwood has the largest membership of any Vic club?
Since when?
Hawthorn's the richest Victorian club, even though Essendon just landed the largest sponsorship deal of all time, and Collingwood has the largest membership of any Vic club?
Essendon v Collingwood is the biggest in AFL
Hawthorn's is still the largest. we get 300k less then the dons for tassie, and HSBC sponsor us a reported 500k pa.
and you said richest club, why bring up membership?
i never said hawthorn were a big club, i said we were a rich one![]()
and the crowd figures show it too -
Collingwood vs. Essendon (Round 5/ANZAC Day), Attendance: 88,999
Essendon vs. Collingwood (Round 17), Attendance: 64,785
Total attendance: 153,784
