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Who will be better in 2025? Hawthorn or Collingwood?

Who will be better in 2025?


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Has Finn received coaches votes in any other game than the one he kept a second year player quiet, whilst only getting 6 possessions himself?

That day screwed with McRae and Collingwood so much that they..... went on to win the premiership.
Does it even matter whether he even got coaches votes other games?

He’s a depth player. A depth player that put “the best player in the comp” in his pocket and subsequently mind****ed McRae 12 months later with the mere prospect of his possible inclusion.
 
Does it even matter whether he even got coaches votes other games?

He’s a depth player. A depth player that put “the best player in the comp” in his pocket and subsequently mind****ed McRae 12 months later with the mere prospect of his possible inclusion.
And as I said, in the meantime his team won a premiership.

On that basis, can Mitchell and Hawthorn 'mind****' McRae and Collingwood more regularly?
 
And as I said, in the meantime his team won a premiership.

On that basis, can Mitchell and Hawthorn 'mind****' McRae and Collingwood more regularly?
Not in 2024 they didn’t. Got smacked, in fact.

Finn didn’t even have to tag.
 

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Hawks and Pies, together with GWS and Brisbane, will be the top 4 teams in 2025.

Any order.

The Giants depth worries me now. For the first time ever in their existence.

Also have Brisbane missing the top 4 due to 1. Common post-premiership complacency, and 2. No natural replacement for Daniher.

Collingwood sit in that 7th-11th range for me personally, mostly because it's quite hard to gauge exactly how an old list/team will fare heading into any season.
Geelong bucked the trend and won a premiership.
Hawthorn completely stagnated then plummeted.
 
Oh it has to be Hawks and Hok ball.

Everthing we're hearing is top 2 and Premiership is thiers to lose.

Good luck to them. I've liked the Hawks ever since they got Bucky out of Subi.
 

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