Worst player to win a Norm Smith

[jerry springer]

Shaw for me.

yeah any bum can play 300 games...

 

[andypie]

This thread and the discussion is very unfair.

The awarding of the Norm Smith medal is based on the opinions of an independent panel of football experts.

If anybody disagrees with a player being awarded the medal, criticism should be directed at that panel of experts.

There is no such thing as a "worst player" as getting to a grand final is already a major achievement... it is far better to express in terms of "which player should not have been awarded a Norm Smith medal".

well said.

 

[jerry springer]

This thread and the discussion is very unfair.".

its a free country we can discuss whatever we choose.

you can choose not to click on the link

back on topic, Robertson was the worst easily

 

[Rod Stroker]

Well said mate,i agree , his 28 and played 260 games, i believe he is up there as an elite player. At the time he wasnt, but he was an up and comer. Still the only player in history to have a sign on fee for the draft.

Is that right? I wasn't aware of that. Wouldn't that be deemed as draft tampering?

The 99 Norm Smith could have gone to any number of players. Carey would have gone close with his game turning 3rd quarter in the midfield. McKernan also played well and nailed some great goals with Kouta on him. Shagger probably stood out though for his consistent polish and accurate goal scoring throughout the entire game.

 

[Thelionsrule]

Nathan Buckley

 

[royalist]

I thought Buckley was deserved.

Wayne Harmes was well lucky. Wasn't there a story about McConville or Kourkamelias getting a TV as prize for best player one week when he'd had only a couple of kicks?

Billy Duckworth was a bit of a scrubber and Shaun Hart was an avergae player.

Whilst Embley isn't elite he does have an ability to turn it on and win games.

If these guys are the worst to win, then where were the champs ? The Norm Smith is decided on the day and lets not forget it,s a team game. Good on these guys who are usually team players.

 

[royalist]

And still the massive over-rating continues...

Judd is well behind a number of those footballers, right now, and will finish his career behind a good few of them too.

IMO, Robertson is the weakest footballer to have won one, with Duckworth & Dear close behind.

Williams & Ablett can slug it out for the best, with Madden, Hird & Buckley hot on their heels.

Shame on you and you being a Hawthorn supporter. Colin Robertson can hold his head high and is not out of place with the " top players". I,d have in my side anytime.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Nathan Buckley

Thats right, Buckley was good in 2002 but the real Champion wearing number 3 stood up when it really mattered!!

 

[grantyc77]

Is that right? I wasn't aware of that. Wouldn't that be deemed as draft tampering?

No it was totally legal, 60,000 on his head, that year the swans had the first two picks ( or 2 and 3 i cant really remember) And Shagger was hoping to stay in Melb, But the swans still picked him after choosing A rocca with there first chose. So normal sign up of two years and he was off. Then we all know what happened from there.

 

[windyhill]

I backed S.Grant in `99 so worst player or not, i owe that boy one or two beers......won me plenty.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

I backed S.Grant in `99 so worst player or not, i owe that boy one or two beers......won me plenty.

I would be very, very wary of getting into a drink with the Shagga.

The only thing he has more damaging than that left foot is lhis eft elbow if you know what I mean ...

 

[Rod Stroker]

No it was totally legal, 60,000 on his head, that year the swans had the first two picks ( or 2 and 3 i cant really remember) And Shagger was hoping to stay in Melb, But the swans still picked him after choosing A rocca with there first chose. So normal sign up of two years and he was off. Then we all know what happened from there.

Interesting. But I assume such practices have been outlawed these days? Otherwise it would be no different to established players putting prices on their heads in the hope of deterring certain clubs from picking them up in the draft. And to my knowledge that is not allowed.

 

[HorseHead]

The actual least deserving (even though he was a great player) was obviosusly Wayne Harmes. The dominator was totally robbed in '79. Harmes would have been lucky to have been in the top 4 on the ground.

Eh?? I've seen the DVD a couple of times now. Wayne Harmes was ultimately the difference between the two teams on the day (and I'm not referring to the "was it in or out of bounds?" tap to Sheldon in the last quarter. I'm talking about in general play around the ground over the course of the whole match).

As much as I dislike admitting it, Wayne Harmes was a very worthy winner of the Norm Smith.

 

[grantyc77]

Interesting. But I assume such practices have been outlawed these days? Otherwise it would be no different to established players putting prices on their heads in the hope of deterring certain clubs from picking them up in the draft. And to my knowledge that is not allowed.

Thats an interesting question, im not sure mate to be honest, most clubs have plenty of money these days so i think its alot different than it was bad in the good old days.

Yeah watch out when having a few beers with Shagga ( windy hill ), he doesn't mind the odd lemonade or two, i wouldnt worry about the elbows of shagga himself, its his brother id be watching for...

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

This is because, jusging by your profile, you were probably only two years old in 1999 and had to go naptimes in the afternoon.

Not quite mate. Seriously. It was a boring GF for non-partisan fans. I'm lucky to remember who even won, let alone who won the NS. Touchy or something?

 

[Rod Stroker]

Thats an interesting question, im not sure mate to be honest, most clubs have plenty of money these days so i think its alot different than it was bad in the good old days.

That's sorta my point. I believe the AFL has disallowed players from putting prices on their heads as it's deemed to be draft tampering and would give clubs with more money a better chance to draft such players. If it was legal then it would be similar to a free agency system where a player names his price in the open market and he basically goes to the highest bidder. This is the exact opposite of how the AFL draft system currently works.

 

[TheRealComptroller]

That's sorta my point. I believe the AFL has disallowed players from putting prices on their heads as it's deemed to be draft tampering and would give clubs with more money a better chance to draft such players. If it was legal then it would be similar to a free agency system where a player names his price in the open market and he basically goes to the highest bidder. This is the exact opposite of how the AFL draft system currently works.

New players to the AFL are now forbidden from setting their terms.

They get paid a set base amount according to the round in which they were drafted, or if taken in the first round they will recieve progressively more based on what pick was used to get them in the first round. Gibbs will get a fair bit more than the dude who went at #16 (a Brown twin to WCE?).

If you have been previously listed by an AFL club you are free to set your terms.

 

[Chewy]

One thing about that list... what a fantastic group of footballers, and that this thread is incredibly disrespectful.

Hear hear.

A journeyman footballer plays the game of his life on the biggest day of the year and good ol' Big Footy has a thread commemorating the "worst" ever winners of the Norm Smith... Unbelievable. Worst this. Worst that. How about a thread titled "most hyped footballers to go missing in Grand Finals"?

Paul Dear was a big unit with plenty of talent who found it hard to break into the star-studded Hawks side of the late 80's. But he was magnificent in the 1991 finals series. He gave one of the most dominant Grand Final performances ever. What is more, with Dermie's injuries and defection to the Swans, Dear made the CHF position his own at Hawthorn over the 1992 and 1993 seasons. He was no flash in the pan and probably dished out more pain than Dermie and "Hitman" Merrett combined in his brief stint there.

From 1981-1984, Colin Robertson was a brilliant ruck-rover / half back for Hawthorn. He was one of the Hawks' most skillful players and formed a vital role with Russell Greene in minding the opposition goalsneaks and setting up our attacks from defence. He was definitely one the more valuable members of that 1983 premiership.

Bill Duckworth was low on finesse but he gave the Bombers defence the ruggedness that every premiership team needs. From memory, he played over 200 games for Essendon.

Shaun Hart was another good, solid footballer that gave his all for the team cause and never took a backward step.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Thats an interesting question, im not sure mate to be honest, most clubs have plenty of money these days so i think its alot different than it was bad in the good old days.

Yeah watch out when having a few beers with Shagga ( windy hill ), he doesn't mind the odd lemonade or two, i wouldnt worry about the elbows of shagga himself, its his brother id be watching for...

I remember him from growing up in the area. Had a few spots of bother with our friends in blue IIRC.