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Is Grigg considered an injury stat or a retirement?
Because his retirement was due to injury...
Because his retirement was due to injury...
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What i dont understand is i thought the reason we fell away at the end of last year was due to
-injuries
-teams changing tactics when they played us
-questionable motivation ie lack of hunger
-questionable match ups and coaching ie playing rance on de goey , sidebottom etc
how much was that due to peaking too early? , also we started our pre season 4 weeks late due to winning the flag so peaking early seems odd
In 2017 we started of well very fit and full of run and had no trouble finishing the season well..
Of course to be fair the idea of our approach was to ensure we finish the season full of running so who knows maybe it will work , assuming we have enough players to field a team
It's a retirement.Is Grigg considered an injury stat or a retirement?
Because his retirement was due to injury...
Pies squad got papercuts last year.
Our squad has been full on massacred this year.
Yeah I don’t think our disappointing end to 2018 had anything to do with fitness
I think a combo of
- evolving tactics against us
- an off night/dusty unfit
- mental burnout being on top for 18 months
Of interest, in both of our H&A wins over Collingwood, they statistically smashed us in terms of time with the ball. The margin for error with our pressure game plan was very low. Be even 1% off, and it could all fall apart
I think 2019 pre-season may have been a drastic, disastrous over-correction to a non-existent problem
I think 2019 pre-season may have been a drastic, disastrous over-correction to a non-existent problem
AAAHHHHMMMM the whole injury list is on his head. Needs a flogging imo.Shazza_ you realise the Cotchin injury rests completley on your shoulders on the back of that April fools thread?
don't forget Grigg's 200+.... Just sayin.Rance-200
Cotchin-225
Reiwoldt-252
Astbury-117
Edwards-243
Lambert-83
Nankervis-67
Short-59
1246 games missing and 7 premiership players
Nope disagree, the context was 'playing at our peak' nothing to do with fitness. Do you really think the FD would let highly tuned players not be fit for the coming year? Complete bollocks imo.I’m convinced we completely cooked our preseason. I recall Dimma even making comments that we “peaked too early” in 2018
So instead of doing what worked spectacularly well in 2017-2018, we have gone into 2019 so underdone our players can’t stay on the field.
I don’t buy this injury list is simply down to bad luck
We miss him badly, big body, midfielder/tagger etc.Is Grigg considered an injury stat or a retirement?
Because his retirement was due to injury...
Not half as much as we miss a few othersWe miss him badly, big body, midfielder/tagger etc.
Of course, but he has been a staple of our mids and he hasn't been there all year, and look how bad its been.Not half as much as we miss a few others
Infraction Notice due..............................overdue!Shazza_ you realise the Cotchin injury rests completley on your shoulders on the back of that April fools thread?
I’m convinced we completely cooked our preseason. I recall Dimma even making comments that we “peaked too early” in 2018
So instead of doing what worked spectacularly well in 2017-2018, we have gone into 2019 so underdone our players can’t stay on the field.
I don’t buy this injury list is simply down to bad luck
LOL at best 22, name the best 22's then ya clown with the games missed by each.How hard every club has been hit by injury in season 2019
Richmond has been hit hard by injury but when it comes to the number of games lost by best 22 players because of injury, there are three clubs worse off than the Tigers and a premiership contender has been hit just as hard. See the injury ladder.
The greatest injury crisis of Damien Hardwick’s tenure has sidelined All-Australians Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards for Thursday night’s finals-shaping clash with Adelaide.
Five of Richmond’s six best players and eight of their top 13 from last year’s Jack Dyer Medal will miss the clash with the Crows.
Edwards has been ruled out with hamstring tendinitis, with the Tigers adamant Cotchin’s third hamstring episode of the season is only soreness rather than another tear.
The Tigers’ injury plight could eventually influence a risky recall for Alex Rance during finals given their fading premiership hopes.
Of their eight Tigers in the All-Australian squad of 40 last year, Jack Riewoldt, Rance, Kane Lambert, Edwards and Cotchin will miss and Josh Caddy is badly out of form.
Richmond will have to hang tough and hope it can burst up the ladder in a seven-match stretch of games to finish the home-and-away season.
In that stretch they take on contenders West Coast, Brisbane, Collingwood, Port Adelaide and GWS as well as Melbourne and Carlton.
Trent Cotchin will miss the clash against Adelaide with a hamstring problem.
Richmond football boss Neil Balme said the injury was only minor but given Cotchin has twice injured the hamstring this year he had decided against risking it.
“He’s not going to play, he’s sore. It puts a bit more pressure on, but that’s all right,” he said.
“He’s just a bit sore in the hamstring, but it’s not the same. I reckon if he hadn’t have had the problem before, he would have played.
“The fact we’re playing on the Thursday makes it more difficult. If we’d played on Saturday or Sunday (he was a chance), but we won’t take the risk.”
A club whose leaders had seemed bulletproof has lost the fourth-most games from injury to its best 22 this year.
Remarkably, by Friday only four of its players will have taken the field in all 13 games this year — Tom Lynch, Jack Higgins, Kamdyn McIntosh and Dion Prestia.
Edwards had played every game until pulling up sore this week.
The Tigers will have to make a tough call on Rance, hoping to recover from an ACL rupture in 26 weeks to play in a qualifying or elimination final.
Alex Rance is making good progress in his return from a knee reconstruction. Picture: Getty
Coach Damien Hardwick is adamant the club will consider his claims as he steps up his recovery that has already shown incredible signs in its early stages.
Hardwick said on Friday night he was hoping Jack Riewoldt would be back in Round 16, with David Astbury likely back after next week’s bye.
Kane Lambert (Achilles) and Toby Nankervis (groin) are still some weeks away from returning.
Brisbane and Fremantle have had 14 players take part in every game this year, with St Kilda (13), Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs (both 12) not far behind.
Incredibly, Brisbane has lost just 10 games to injury from its best 22 this year, clearly the best run ahead of the Dogs (39) and Hawthorn (41).
Melbourne has lost 100 games to injury from players in its best 22, with GWS second (72 games) in front of St Kilda (68) and Richmond (67).
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Yeah Rance doing his ACL, Jack his hand then his PCL, Cotch his Hamstring, Nank his groin, Ross getting his ankle stepped on, Short his shoulder etc etc was because of serious pre season mismanagement.Yeah IMO appears to be a serious mismanagement preseason. Injury list is deplorable.
Yeah Rance doing his ACL, Jack his hand then his PCL, Cotch his Hamstring, Nank his groin, Ross getting his ankle stepped on, Short his shoulder etc etc was because of serious pre season mismanagement.
Not really. Cotchin’s been bad but Astbury always misses a couple. Shedda seems to be getting a bit of hammy management which is exactly what you want. Perhaps Nank was avoidable.We've had a fair few soft tissue injuries. We had virtually 0 last year. Seems awfully coincidental that a revamped pre-season schedule has coincided with one of our worst injury riddled years in recent history.