Your clubs 26 and under side

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B: Baker Balta Short
HB: Stack Vlastuin Naish
C: McIntosh Graham Bolton
HF: Rioli Coleman Jones Castagna
F: Aarts Chol Dow

Foll: Nankervis, Ross, Collier Dawkins

INT: Soldo, Cumberland, Raplhsmith, Miller
Holy s**t is Nankervis still under 26? I thought he was like 30 lmao
 
7 pages in and not one freo supporter has done a 26 and under starting 18 or starting 22.

MadMundy , Kram , Moo Stronzo , Taylor Wizard freo1997 Joao Quokka

any one of you lot can do a best 18 or best 22 of freos players aged 26 and under?

There’s one on Page 2 - had Cox at CHF and Meek at full forward. Really drove home how desperate we are for a tall forward in this draft - I couldn’t come up with an alternative.

For those wondering who Meek is - he’s a 21 year old project Ruck who hasn’t played a game yet.
 

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B: Hayden Mckay Young
HB: McDonald Corr Perez
C: Dumont Phillips Thomas
HF: Taylor Comben Stephenson
F: Turner Larkey Zurhaar
R: Xerri Simpkin LDU
I: Mahony Jed Bonar Ford

Emg: Powell, Atu, Bailey, Will Walker, Lazzaro

we rate Comben very highly as evidenced by not taking a KPF. Keen to see him play next year
 
FB: Williams - L Young - Butler
CHB: Daniel - Cordy - Crozier
C: B Smith - Dunkley - Hunter
HF: Dale - Ugle-Hagan - Vandermeer
FF: Schache- Naughton - Weightman
R: English - Bontempelli - Macrae

I/C: McLean - Richards - West - Cavarra

Have probably forgotten someone, but damn out midfield and forward line look the goods.
 
We have a very young squad with not many mid aged players.

B: McPherson (21), McAsey (20), Worrell (20)
HB: Milera (23), Doedee (24), Hamill (20)
C: Sholl (21), Crouch (26), Jones (21)
HF: Pedlar (18), Fogarty (21), McAdam (25)
F: Rowe (21), Himmelberg (22), Stengle (22)
R: O'Brien (25), Hately (20), Schoenberg (20)
I: Hinge (22), Keays (24), McHenry (20), Thilthorpe (18)

E (from): Strachan (25), Frampton (24), Davis (23), Murphy (22), Butts (21), Gollant (19), O'Connor (19), Cook (18), Berry (18), Borlase (18), Newchurch (18)
 
B: Hardwick Koschitzke Sicily
HB: scrimshaw barass impey
C: Phillips worpel day
HF: Nash Lewis Morris
FF: Hanrahan Jeka Moore
R: Reeves cousins howe
I: Maginness, Downie, jiath, Morrison

That’s seriously grim for us...looking at some other sides, especially the Dogs, their under 26 side would beat our current best 22 by 5+ goals....

no elite key positions players, especially forwards, no small forwards & no midfielders.

From that list, currently only sicily and day I can see being considered as “stars”... Barrass I’m bullish about, he looks a beauty but time will tell.

Our key position, midfield and small forward depth is a huge worry.
 
7 pages in and not one freo supporter has done a 26 and under starting 18 or starting 22.

MadMundy , Kram , Moo Stronzo , Taylor Wizard freo1997 Joao Quokka

any one of you lot can do a best 18 or best 22 of freos players aged 26 and under?
Let me have a go.

Chapman Pearce Ryan
Young Logue Hughes

Darcy Brayshaw Cerra
Serong Aish Acres

Sturt Cox Frederick
Schultz Meek Henry

Bench
Tucker, Bewley, Blakely, Duiman

Others
Western, Walker, O'Driscoll, Valente, Giro, Crowden, Switkowski, Watson.

Defense will be elite. Needs one line breaker.
Inside mids will be elite and outside is average.
Forward has only one key forward and two potential stars in Henry and Sturt but the rest are pretty average.

Missing from a good team.
1. Key forward
2. 2 Wingers
3. Line Breaker defender
4. Ruck/Forward
5. Another quality small or general forward.
 
There are a few teams that look like they'll be contending in 5 years - Bris, Dogs, PA (likely).

Quite a few with solid lists but holes (including my Tigers)

And a few that need a lot to go right in a hurry (WTF Pies, not even a team of 22!)

For a few teams add in 2 or 3 players of the right type and they suddenly look very good.

Useful but very limited information.
 
7 pages in and not one freo supporter has done a 26 and under starting 18 or starting 22.

MadMundy , Kram , Moo Stronzo , Taylor Wizard freo1997 Joao Quokka

any one of you lot can do a best 18 or best 22 of freos players aged 26 and under?
Ok here’s mine...

B: Aish, Logue, Ryan
HB: Young, Pearce, Hughes
C: Cerra, Tucker, Bewley
R: Darcy, Brayshaw, Serong
HF: Switcowski, Cox, Freddy
F: Schultz, Sturt, Henry
I: Acres, Blakely, Valente, Duman

Sturt got a rising star nom playing as deepest forward in round 1 so I’m happy with him at FF

Hughes just makes the cut off as he is 27 in December 2021.
 
FB: Williams - Gardner - Crozier
HB: Daniel - Cordy - Richards
C: B. Smith - Macrae - Hunter
HF: Vandermeer - Naughton - McLean
FF: Dale - Schache - Ugle-Hagan

R: English - Bontempelli - Dunkley

IC: Weightman - West - Young - Cavarra


Midfield hardly changes, spine suffers a bit. Apart from that, it's not far off a competitive team
 
Age in brackets. IMO very strong back and forward although a bit light on for mid depth, Jarryd Lyons & Lachie Neale both have a good 3-5 years left though, I have confidence the likes of Starcevich/Rayner/Cockatoo/Robertson can step up as future mids.

Noah Answerth(21), Harris Andrews(23), Callum Ah Chee(23).
Brandon Starcevich(21), Jack Payne(21), Darcy Gardiner(25).

Oscar McInerney(26), Jarrod Berry(22), Hugh McCluggage(22).
Zac Bailey(21), Deven Robertson(19), Tom Joyce(20).

Cameron Rayner(21), Daniel McStay(25), Charlie Cameron(26).
Joe Daniher(26), Eric Hipwood(23), Keidean Coleman(20).

Tom Fullarton(21), Nakia Cockatoo(24), Rhys Matheison(23), Tom Berry(20).

Not sure if I'm biased but no other teams looks this good aside from Dogs having an insanely strong midfield.
 
Not sure if I'm biased but no other teams looks this good aside from Dogs having an insanely strong midfield.
Agree.... and I'm biased too ;), you could realistically see 17 of that 22 being in our best 22 in 2021 ie. all the back and forward 6 + Big O, Berry, McCluggage, Bailey from the midfield and Cockatoo from the bench.

Also think Fullarton is a chance of taking McStays spot in the side as the year progresses, bullish on Deven Robertson as well.
 

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B: Hayden Mckay Young
HB: McDonald Corr Perez
C: Dumont Phillips Thomas
HF: Taylor Comben Stephenson
F: Turner Larkey Zurhaar
R: Xerri Simpkin LDU
I: Mahony Jed Bonar Ford

Emg: Powell, Atu, Bailey, Will Walker, Lazzaro

we rate Comben very highly as evidenced by not taking a KPF. Keen to see him play next year
Lots of B and C graders, but I don’t see many (if any) players on there with star potential. Simpkin might get close, the rest look very honest.
 
Ok here’s mine...

B: Aish, Logue, Ryan
HB: Young, Pearce, Hughes
C: Cerra, Tucker, Bewley
R: Darcy, Brayshaw, Serong
HF: Switcowski, Cox, Freddy
F: Schultz, Sturt, Henry
I: Acres, Blakely, Valente, Duman

Sturt got a rising star nom playing as deepest forward in round 1 so I’m happy with him at FF

Hughes just makes the cut off as he is 27 in December 2021.
after the national draft you can throw Tracey at FF now. Guy is a solid KPF from the rookie list
 
Post draft

buderick collins Graham
Bowes Ballard Powell
Atkins rowell anderson
Ainsworth lukosius Corbett
Rankine king Holland’s

Conroy Miller weller

Brodie Flanders macpherson markov

e: fiorini, lemmens, sharp, Davies, Jeffries, McLennan, Farrar, rosas

3 x 25-26 year olds
5 x 23-24 year olds
4 x 21-22 year olds
10 x 20 and under

still a young squad with a lot of depth. A number of talented young guys not near the best 22 still.

Another developmental ruck and a key forward needed. Lukosius plays forward in this team but I love him off half back.
 
Jeez how sh*t are the rest of you when we only have 1 stand-out player (Dusty) and then a bunch of potatoes around him playing a team role?

What a ridiculous comment.

Sorry to go back a bit but most can’t agree that the Tigers success is great and all but in terms of dynasty’s it would be one of the weakest multiple premiership sides of the AFL era.

A very, very well coached group has shown what an average playing group can do and that credit needs to go to Dimma.

Top end talent is very good but it falls away fairly quickly.


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after the national draft you can throw Tracey at FF now. Guy is a solid KPF from the rookie list
Yeah I’m really happy we picked him up. He’s a massive unit for an 18 yo and super aggressive too. I thought about putting him in but tried to keep it to players who have already shown a bit at the level. If Treacy can make impact from the rookie list it will definitely help us for life after Tabs.
 
FB: Paton, Howard, Wilkie
HB: Coffield, Battle, Long
C: Billings, Steele, Sinclair
HF: Higgins, Membrey, Gresham
FF: Butler, King, Lonie
R: Marshall, Crouch, Jones
I/C: Clark, Bytel, Dunstan, Kent

Overall, pretty strong team. At least 17/22 would be best 22 regardless.

Ideally we would have another CHB and Battle would be in the forward line, but Battle has played key back before so this team could play there if necessary.

Would actually be fairly confident with this 22 taking the field.
Would be extremely comfortable fielding that team in a game next season. Well balanced and solid or better on every line.

The top 7 in our B&F all there, plus Crouch, and Gresham (top 5 last year, but only played 11 games this year).

By round 20 next season 9 of them could have played 100 games and 11 over 50. Just King and Bytel out of reach of 50.

From our team that were very competitive against Richmond in the semi final (expected scores 77 to 72- if both teams kicked at the league average from where they had their shots), we:

Lose:
Hill
Ross
Hannebery
Geary
Marsh
Savage

Gain:
Crouch
Gresham
Higgins
Long
Dunstan
Bytel

With another preseason under their belts, there's every chance our 26yo and under side beats the one we fielded in the semi. Line ball at worst.

Ideally you'd prefer some more height though (especially a better rucking back-up) and to be able to swap an inside pig for a more Hill type though.
 
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Would be extremely comfortable fielding that team in a game next season. Very well balanced and solid or better on every line.

The top 7 in our B&F all there, plus Crouch, and Gresham (top 5 last year, but only played 11 games this year).

By round 20 next season 9 of them could have played 100 games and 11 over 50. Just King and Bytel out of reach of 50.

From our team that were very competitive against Richmond in the semi final (expected scores 77 to 72- if both teams kicked at the league average from where they had their shots), we:

Lose:
Hill
Ross
Hannebery
Geary
Marsh
Savage

Gain:
Crouch
Gresham
Higgins
Long
Dunstan
Bytel

With another preseason under their belts, there's every chance our 26yo and under side beats the one we fielded in the semi. Line ball at worst.
I guess a Prime age Zac Dawson cant fit in the saints back 6 sadly. lol.

And to think Some saints thought Dawson was a snake oil salesman just like Ross Lyon lol
 
Carlton:

FB: Plowman, Marchbank, SPS
HB: Saad, Weitering, Williamson
C: Walsh, Setterfield, Fisher
HF: Martin, Curnow, McGovern
FF: Cuningham, McKay, Gibbons

R: De Koning, Cripps, Williams

INT: Pittonet, Silvagni, Dow, Kennedy

That is very very close to our best 22.

Either our u26 squad is great....Or our overall squad is shizen...
 
B: Hardwick Koschitzke Sicily
HB: scrimshaw barass impey
C: Phillips worpel day
HF: Nash Lewis Morris
FF: Hanrahan Jeka Moore
R: Reeves cousins howe
I: Maginness, Downie, jiath, Morrison

That’s seriously grim for us...looking at some other sides, especially the Dogs, their under 26 side would beat our current best 22 by 5+ goals....

no elite key positions players, especially forwards, no small forwards & no midfielders.

From that list, currently only sicily and day I can see being considered as “stars”... Barrass I’m bullish about, he looks a beauty but time will tell.

Our key position, midfield and small forward depth is a huge worry.

I agree for the most part. I think the backline looks decent and is almost set if DGB turns out to be good. O'Meara (who you missed) and Worpel (with Phillips and Day on the outside) is the beginning of a midfield. Needs at least 2 more quality players (top end of next years draft is all mids at this point). Need a key forward and/ or for Lewis to come on (shame we missed on McDonald). No proven small forwards so hopefully two of the 57 we have picked up in recent drafts turn into something. We also have no decent young rucks (but have never invested too heavily in internally developing this role). On small forwards and mids, at least they don't take too long to develop and we have Mitchell and Wingard who just miss this age bracket so have plenty of time to develop these roles.
 
Would be extremely comfortable fielding that team in a game next season. Well balanced and solid or better on every line.

The top 7 in our B&F all there, plus Crouch, and Gresham (top 5 last year, but only played 11 games this year).

By round 20 next season 9 of them could have played 100 games and 11 over 50. Just King and Bytel out of reach of 50.

From our team that were very competitive against Richmond in the semi final (expected scores 77 to 72- if both teams kicked at the league average from where they had their shots), we:

Lose:
Hill
Ross
Hannebery
Geary
Marsh
Savage

Gain:
Crouch
Gresham
Higgins
Long
Dunstan
Bytel

With another preseason under their belts, there's every chance our 26yo and under side beats the one we fielded in the semi. Line ball at worst.

Ideally you'd prefer some more height though (especially a better rucking back-up) and to be able to swap an inside pig for a more Hill type though.
If we were fielding that side, King would be able to take the ruck contests on the forward line but I doubt we would want him anywhere near a centre square bounce. Otherwise, it would probably have to be Battle which wouldnt be ideal. The only big weakness.

This side might not have the most A graders but the depth and evenness across every line is what would make it hard to beat - Bytel being the only player without a good stretch of decent quality games at AFL level in the side.

But it is a good sign that almost all our key positions are already filled by players who are currently 24 or under. Gives me hope that the way we are playing is sustainable rather than us just falling straight out of the 8 next season. It is especially encouraging that most of our previously proven players - Hill, Billings, Membrey, Ross, Gresham - all either had poor seasons by their standards or missed through injury. If you said preseason we would win a final despite Hill being disappointing, Billings having minimal impact in the 2nd half of the season and Membrey not kicking our most goals, I wouldn't have believed you. Shows how far we came in one year.
 

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