List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Swannie0307]

Cute. Have you had a second look at the draft where we picked Stephens. One of THE worst.
And he is one of the pure mids that you like.

5	Dylan Stephens	Sydney	Norwood	SANFL
6	Fischer McAsey	Adelaide	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Greater Western Sydney; received from St Kilda
7	Hayden Young	Fremantle	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League
8	Caleb Serong	Fremantle	Gippsland Power	NAB League	Traded from Melbourne; received from North Melbourne​
9	Liam Henry	Fremantle	Claremont	WAFL	Next Generation Academy selection (Indigenous), matched bid by Carlton​
10	Tom Green	Greater Western Sydney	Canberra Demons	NEAFL	Academy selection, matched bid by Carlton​
11	Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	Gippsland Power	NAB League	Traded from Carlton at the draft; received from Adelaide in 2018
12	Kysaiah Pickett+	Melbourne	Woodville-West Torrens	SANFL	Traded from Fremantle; received from St Kilda; received from Port Adelaide
13	Will Day	Hawthorn	West Adelaide	SANFL
14	Miles Bergman	Port Adelaide	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from St Kilda; received from GWS; received from Essendon in 2018
15	Cody Weightman	Western Bulldogs	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League

Thanks Rusty, looking at who we could’ve picked at #5 that draft makes me feel sick!

 

[Mister B]

Gut feeling says all discounts will be removed and lets be real that's the right call, that's where the biggest angst is, it's not the matching it's the discounts.

So the AFL are fully funding and developing junior pathways in the north states now? That's great news.....

Discounts remain for as long as we are doing the AFL's job of junior development pathways at our own cost.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So the AFL are fully funding and developing junior pathways in the north states now? That's great news.....

Discounts remain for as long as we are doing the AFL's job of junior development pathways at our own cost.

We still would get the advantage to match the bid it’s really the fairest system for everyone

 

[Mister B]

Great. Now they're gonna boo him

They will booo themselves out because they will still boo Grundy despite booting him out the club when he wanted to stay.

 

[Swannie0307]

Not sure I’d trust Campbell Brown

Campbell Brown

Age

40

Ht

179cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

but here’s a promising take on JJ

The player Campbell Brown thinks can flourish and surprise at his new club in 2024

“I think he could be the guy at Sydney.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Mister B]

We still would get the advantage to match the bid it’s really the fairest system for everyone

Still think we hold the advantage in any such discussions. Take our advantage, we pull the academy and you risk killing the game at junior level in the Northern states. If Dillon is keen on growing the game in the North like he says, he's not going to risk it.

 

[rustycrate]

Thanks Rusty, looking at who we could’ve picked at #5 that draft makes me feel sick!

Caleb Serong is the only one that in Harry Hindsight that screams pick me. The rest are pretty much average(taking in mind Green and Henry were off limits). Must be difficult picking pimpled faced teenagers just out of high school and predicting their football futures.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Caleb Serong is the only one that in Harry Hindsight that screams pick me. The rest are pretty much average(taking in mind Green and Henry were off limits). Must be difficult picking pimpled faced teenagers just out of high school and predicting their football futures.

Hayden Young is a jet

 

[RUNVS]

Hayden Young is a jet

So is Flanders.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So is Flanders.

Yep he’s the one I wanted at the time

 

[Swannie0307]

Caleb Serong is the only one that in Harry Hindsight that screams pick me. The rest are pretty much average(taking in mind Green and Henry were off limits). Must be difficult picking pimpled faced teenagers just out of high school and predicting their football futures.

Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I’d take Will Day ahead of all of them… he’s top shelf!!

 

[Swansujelly]

I've just finished watching a handful of the draft prospects highlights and I would be very happy if we drafted Connor O'Sullivan

I'd be ecstatic, but prolly not gonna happen. I like the look of Charlie Edwards, but 12 may a bit high for him. If Cleary drifts a bit, maybe a sneaky trade up.

 

[caesar88]

Caleb Serong is the only one that in Harry Hindsight that screams pick me. The rest are pretty much average(taking in mind Green and Henry were off limits). Must be difficult picking pimpled faced teenagers just out of high school and predicting their football futures.

Hayden Young will go down as the best player from that draft. Don't @ me.

 

[Ticky009]

Not having a top 10 pick saves us from ourselves

 

[rustycrate]

Hayden Young will go down as the best player from that draft. Don't @ me.

He took a while to come good. It just goes to show how hard it is looking at pimpled faced teenagers and predicting their trajectory. Not an exact science. Many variables. Look at Oliver. Very talented. But has issues that are affecting the club.
Need talented players. But also need team/club oriented players. Must be difficult assessing talent and then whether that player will not upset the applecart of the club and the team with their 'off field issues'. These issues may or may not materialize. But they have to be taken into account when drafting players. There are risks with all players in talent/future growth/will they develop/have they issues that can be fixed/coachability/go home factor. Lots of these thing we don't know when we look at a draft after it has been done and wonder why we did not pick xyz.

 

[Swannie0307]

Hayden Young will go down as the best player from that draft. Don't @ me.

Will Day’s got him covered

 

[rustycrate]

Will Day’s got him covered

Already we have two different opinions on who we should have drafted.

 

[Swannie0307]

Already we have two different opinions on who we should have drafted.

True, but either Day or Young would’ve been bloody great… then so would’ve any of Serong, Flanders, Pickett, Bergman & Weightman

But yeah it would be bloody hard to get it right.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Nothing special??

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I think media sleeping on him like they slept on Gulden. I reckon a bid comes for him in late 20s/early 30s at latest.

This is from earlier this week in another write-up

Yet the hard-nosed Swans Academy prospect may not attract a bid inside the first two rounds of the draft. Cleary isn’t overly quick and there are knocks over his kicking, but he is one of the best inside ball-winners in the pool. The 182cm midfielder tackles like his life depends on it...

Cleary is expected to be matched by the Swans, but after their three [four] acquisitions during the trade and free agency period, they may only take two or three picks in the national draft.

 

[bedford]

Cute. Have you had a second look at the draft where we picked Stephens. One of THE worst.
And he is one of the pure mids that you like.

5	Dylan Stephens	Sydney	Norwood	SANFL
6	Fischer McAsey	Adelaide	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from Greater Western Sydney; received from St Kilda
7	Hayden Young	Fremantle	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League
8	Caleb Serong	Fremantle	Gippsland Power	NAB League	Traded from Melbourne; received from North Melbourne​
9	Liam Henry	Fremantle	Claremont	WAFL	Next Generation Academy selection (Indigenous), matched bid by Carlton​
10	Tom Green	Greater Western Sydney	Canberra Demons	NEAFL	Academy selection, matched bid by Carlton​
11	Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	Gippsland Power	NAB League	Traded from Carlton at the draft; received from Adelaide in 2018
12	Kysaiah Pickett+	Melbourne	Woodville-West Torrens	SANFL	Traded from Fremantle; received from St Kilda; received from Port Adelaide
13	Will Day	Hawthorn	West Adelaide	SANFL
14	Miles Bergman	Port Adelaide	Sandringham Dragons	NAB League	Traded from St Kilda; received from GWS; received from Essendon in 2018
15	Cody Weightman	Western Bulldogs	Dandenong Stingrays	NAB League

Please don't make sense to him

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Amazed that phantom drafts still have ZZ in the 3rd round.

They see things very differently to ol’ DQ.

Unfortunately, I can’t see us taking anyone beyond pick 12 + Cleary …. so ZZ ain’t gonna happen.

 

[RUNVS]

What do people think of Cabor? He was talked about more 6 months ago but seems to have fallen off the radar a bit. Worthy of a rookie spot?

 

[BloodySwan]

Amazed that phantom drafts still have ZZ in the 3rd round.

They see things very differently to ol’ DQ.

Unfortunately, I can’t see us taking anyone beyond pick 12 + Cleary …. so ZZ ain’t gonna happen.

I think we'll try trade our F1st to get into this draft, but yeah unlikely to get much else

 

[RUNVS]

Also looking at this I like Cleary's ability to handball out of packs but the worry for me is he seems to have no ability at all to break a tackle. That could just be this game of course, but it seems like every time he is tackled he goes down.

 

[sataris]

Why does North have the first 30 picks?