Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 24

[1954]

The standard of that game last night was very ordinary, a casual viewer could have been excused for thinking they were watching a low division game from an inferior league, or even the curtain raiser before the real stuff began.

It wasn't difficult to see why the hawks spanked brisvegas, they aren't a top 4 team's rear end on current form and will have to improve significantly to do any more than make up the numbers in the finals, and the swannies are bottom 4 or 5 material at best.

 

[tribey]

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if that ball went a few extra metres.

Does our season just start spiraling out of control, or would we have just started this big win streak one week later?

Don’t forget both McCartin bros going off with concussion. Stars aligned.

 

[SC_Power]

I only listen to Port's games with the sound on but BT and Richo are clueless when it comes to the rules of Australian Rules Football. Moreso BT. BT constantly going on about how every free Port get is lucky just feeds the belief among numpty viewers that Port get a dream run from the umpires when infact the opposite is true.

Not as bad as Richo victim blaming JHF for the high tackle Q3..

 

[SC_Power]

Unpopular opinion.
Ross-Lyon-ball, Sling tackles and the rest is only an issue because of the HTB rule more and more favoring the tackler over the ball winner.

There are so many changes that should be made to how tackling is adjudicated, to reward genuine ball winners but also penalize them genuinely refusing to play the ball on.

 

[Festerz]

Unpopular opinion.
Ross-Lyon-ball, Sling tackles and the rest is only an issue because of the HTB rule more and more favoring the tackler over the ball winner.

Nope. My opinion is this....

The sling tackle became a thing because umpires increasingly allowed players who were tackled to hold on to the ball without releasing for an extended period before making a call.

Add to that players were taught to hold on to the ball when tackled and only release it IF one of their own players was nearby - as a result rotations of up to 720 degrees were being made by the tackler with no reward and momentum in the game was slowed with the ball staying in the area for a ball up.

In response to the non call in such situations, the tacklers responded by taking the player to the ground - this is when the sling tackle and head injuries became prevalent.

In short - both the tackler AND the tackling players responding to poor adjudication.

But the AFL will never admit that THEY and caused the issue in the first place. And so are suspending players for tackling as they try and make up a solution on the run.

 

[tribey]

In short - both the tackler AND the tackling players responding to poor adjudication.

But the AFL will never admit that THEY and caused the issue in the first place. And so are suspending players for tackling as they try and make up a solution on the run.

It’s staggering that they haven’t bedded down a proper framework since,

1) Robbie Gray had his arms pinned and was launched head first into the ground by Bryce Gibbs against Carlton (not a free kick at the time, but Gibbs was suspended despite the likes of Leigh Matthews saying he didn’t have a case to answer). Considered a “double-movement” and avoidable/deliberate.

2) Jay Schulz was found not guilty at the tribunal for pinning Ted Richards’ arms and tackling him to the ground where head first. Considered one movement and therefore unavoidable/not deliberate.

Both occurred in 2015. 2015!

 

[240volt]

I struggle to follow the rules these days.
Whatever there trying to do (AFL) I don’t like it.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Speechless

 

[TeeKray]

I don't see what the problem is with protecting the head. It's not a blood sport or combat sport, it's a ball game. There's still plenty of physicality in the game without dangerous tackles that leave players open to concussion.

It reminds me of when the media were defending van Rooyen for a spoil to the head earlier in the season on the basis that it's "part of the game". No, head high contact is not part of the game, it's expressly against the rules.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Who had the better career; Robbie Gray

9

Robbie Gray

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

13.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

or Jason Porplyzia

Jason Porplyzia

Age

39

Ht

177cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

? Text us in with your thoughts!

 

[n4nirvana]

Need a Last Dance-esque Documentary on this season

so many stories

Boak - last season?, Last hurrah

Hinkley - uncontracted, last season?

the Finalysons

the emergence of Rozee/Butters

JHF

11 in a row

 

[SC_Power]

Nope. My opinion is this....

The sling tackle became a thing because umpires increasingly allowed players who were tackled to hold on to the ball without releasing for an extended period before making a call.

Add to that players were taught to hold on to the ball when tackled and only release it IF one of their own players was nearby - as a result rotations of up to 720 degrees were being made by the tackler with no reward and momentum in the game was slowed with the ball staying in the area for a ball up.

In response to the non call in such situations, the tacklers responded by taking the player to the ground - this is when the sling tackle and head injuries became prevalent.

In short - both the tackler AND the tackling players responding to poor adjudication.

But the AFL will never admit that THEY and caused the issue in the first place. And so are suspending players for tackling as they try and make up a solution on the run.

Like I said, mine is an unpopular opinion.

When senior school coaching for a season and having players becoming frustrated with not getting HTB calls, we started sessions of game simulation practice with a modified tackling adjudication to teach the reward of a good tackle is the tackle, not a right to a free kick.
Note these were to encourage technique, not to be game day rule changes.

• single tackler only (no gang tackles) and not go to ground, only way to get a HTB
• throw a player to the ground, free kick against for poor tackle
• tackle a player already on the ground with the ball fairly (no head high, in the back etc like you see now), immediate free kick HTB

Took only about 10 minutes to see the change in freer game play and tackling technique

• Rewarded the ball winner rather than second to the ball. Taught ball winners to keep their feet rather than dive on the ball.
• Taught tacklers to tackle to lock the ball in and impede, not to hurt.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

West Coast Eagles will not finish last: Chairman Paul Fitzpatrick makes baffling prediction amid criticism​

 

[Munro88]

Need a Last Dance-esque Documentary on this season

so many stories

Boak - last season?, Last hurrah

Hinkley - uncontracted, last season?

the Finalysons

the emergence of Rozee/Butters

JHF

11 in a row

And hoping for:

- premiership

- butters Brownlow

-aliir norm smith



__________________________________
F@&k the Crows! s**t team, no history.

 

[TazD]

West Coast Eagles will not finish last: Chairman Paul Fitzpatrick makes baffling prediction amid criticism​

West Coast leadership has gone off the deep end. Long may they flounder.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

And hoping for:

- premiership

- butters Brownlow

-aliir norm smith



__________________________________
F@&k the Crows! s**t team, no history.

JHF Norm or GTFO.

Just imagine the melts.

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[Powerade 08]

Fitzpatrick setting a goal of winning a couple games in the back half of the year is more stupiderer than Richardson aiming for 3 Premierships over 5 seasons.

 

[Grave Danger]

West Coast Eagles will not finish last: Chairman Paul Fitzpatrick makes baffling prediction amid criticism​

 

[OneGreatClub]

Not keen for Crows to get into the eight and a home final against us.
Would s**t me off no end.

 

[_VXV]

I don't see what the problem is with protecting the head. It's not a blood sport or combat sport, it's a ball game. There's still plenty of physicality in the game without dangerous tackles that leave players open to concussion.

It reminds me of when the media were defending van Rooyen for a spoil to the head earlier in the season on the basis that it's "part of the game". No, head high contact is not part of the game, it's expressly against the rules.

Same dickheads will sfellow about an ear massage.

 

[_VXV]

Need a Last Dance-esque Documentary on this season

so many stories

Boak - last season?, Last hurrah

Hinkley - uncontracted, last season?

the Finalysons

the emergence of Rozee/Butters

JHF

11 in a row

Narkle?

 

[240volt]

Not keen for Crows to get into the eight and a home final against us.
Would s**t me off no end.

Even if they scrapped into the 8 playing us at anytime would almost be impossible.
We will play them one more time only this season and win easy.

 

[EdgePower1870]

Who had the better career; Robbie Gray or Jason Porplyzia? Text us in with your thoughts!

Would be better to ring up and ask who was better Mark Riciutto or Mitch Banner

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Need a Last Dance-esque Documentary on this season

so many stories

Boak - last season?, Last hurrah

Hinkley - uncontracted, last season?

the Finalysons

the emergence of Rozee/Butters

JHF

11 in a row

Lycett from trash to cash

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Not keen for Crows to get into the eight and a home final against us.
Would s**t me off no end.

Unless we flog them

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