Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Clearly it was the criteria on this occasion though.But if that was the criteria very few football players would be selected for anything.
Great point. Agree on GAS miles above anyone ever in my lifetime of 65+, maybe ever. But JS had the package, my question was the timing.As a player totally agree Partridge
However as a package of player/ leader/ mentor/ ambassador he really stands apart and thoroughly deserves this honour IMHO
Amen dazbroncosGAS will never be surpassed in footy ability IMO... he just did s**t that no other player has done or could do.. and not kjsut that he did it... but he did it over and over and over thruhis 15 odd years. Different grounds, different types of games, differnt positions and differnt opponets all got to see GAS in full flight.
But he wasn't the greatest person and didnt make the best decisions - and all humans make mistakes... but Sel definitely rises to the top when the sum of the parts are added up.
But ill still watch GAS highlights over any other player any time - and die happier knowing I say a lot of that mofo live.
GO Catters
They all pale behind Ablett senior as far as I'm concerned. By a long, long way.
You've watched a lot of footy.They all pale behind Ablett senior as far as I'm concerned. By a long, long way.
I get that in terms of the on field spectacle but what about as a person and the effort both on and off the field? Doesn't Joel just encompass everything you can be proud of?They all pale behind Ablett senior as far as I'm concerned. By a long, long way.
Farmer was a better player, and at least as good an on-field leader.You've watched a lot of footy.
Out of interest who are your top 5 Cats as
a) Players
b) Leaders
Selwood ranking quite highly on both makes him (relatively) unique, with respect to the many outstanding players and leaders we've had over the years.
Farmer was a bit before my time but is one I'd have expected. Any others top 5/10 for both?Farmer was a better player, and at least as good an on-field leader.
Nailed itGAS will never be surpassed in footy ability IMO... he just did s**t that no other player has done or could do.. and not kjsut that he did it... but he did it over and over and over thruhis 15 odd years. Different grounds, different types of games, differnt positions and differnt opponets all got to see GAS in full flight.
But he wasn't the greatest person and didnt make the best decisions - and all humans make mistakes... but Sel definitely rises to the top when the sum of the parts are added up.
But ill still watch GAS highlights over any other player any time - and die happier knowing I say a lot of that mofo live.
GO Catters
By that logic, Cook could never do right, as he was CEO of West Coast when they defeated Geelong in 1992 and 1994...Cook being at Carlton rules him out for me.
More than happy to recognise him, just not having a major structure named after him. Just my opinion.By that logic, Cook could never do right, as he was CEO of West Coast when they defeated Geelong in 1992 and 1994...
I personally think the Cook-Costa connection needs to be recognised way more than it is.
By the time Costa stood down as President, the club's branding had changed, the stadium was on its way to being modernised, the club's finances were completely managed responsibly, the team had on-field success, the team off-field was stable as a rock, and there has been no in-fighting that permeated beyond the walls
Irrespective of whether he's at Carlton or not, Brian Cook's contribution to the club can never be ignored for such trivial reasons.
The club had its arse out of its pants in 1999. 7 million in debt, a crumbling stadium, a coach the players didn't like, a captain that left for "greener pastures", and crappo membership numbers.
The short, medium and long-term planning required for all of this to happen would have been monumental and although many were involved, Cook would have been the major architect behind all of that. Costa would also have played a role in that.
The cultural change and mindset of the club from a regional football club that enjoys itself and isn't one of the big boys to a club that always aims to be the best in every way (including professionalism) has been monumental.
For mine, the Cook-Costa stand would be a suitable tribute for two people that completely revolutionised the club like never before and unless things absolutely go to pot again, never again, we hope...
Agree with this (excluding stand) but recognition is worthwhile for sure.By that logic, Cook could never do right, as he was CEO of West Coast when they defeated Geelong in 1992 and 1994...
I personally think the Cook-Costa connection needs to be recognised way more than it is.
By the time Costa stood down as President, the club's branding had changed, the stadium was on its way to being modernised, the club's finances were completely managed responsibly, the team had on-field success, the team off-field was stable as a rock, and there has been no in-fighting that permeated beyond the walls
Irrespective of whether he's at Carlton or not, Brian Cook's contribution to the club can never be ignored for such trivial reasons.
The club had its arse out of its pants in 1999. 7 million in debt, a crumbling stadium, a coach the players didn't like, a captain that left for "greener pastures", and crappo membership numbers.
The short, medium and long-term planning required for all of this to happen would have been monumental and although many were involved, Cook would have been the major architect behind all of that. Costa would also have played a role in that.
The cultural change and mindset of the club from a regional football club that enjoys itself and isn't one of the big boys to a club that always aims to be the best in every way (including professionalism) has been monumental.
For mine, the Cook-Costa stand would be a suitable tribute for two people that completely revolutionised the club like never before and unless things absolutely go to pot again, never again, we hope...
Personally, I was never a big Joel fan in isolation. However, there are many reasons and they're rightMore than happy to recognise him, just not having a major structure named after him. Just my opinion.
What he did for Geelong was nothing short of magnificent, but Cook is a career executive.
It's a moot point for now as the decision has been made. Do you disagree with the new stand being named after Joel?
Well he was fearless on the field wasn't he? Never a backward step. See ball. Get ball. Bleed. He's what you'd want in a leader.Personally, I was never a big Joel fan in isolation. However, there are many reasons and they're right
As an ambassador, Joel is squeaky clean and therefore a suitable choice
I just never got in on the Joel Selwood love-in
So going by your logic, should we remove Junior too?Cook being at Carlton rules him out for me.
Pls. You know what Senior did was far and away worse than the vast majority of players who have minor indiscretions on their record. Luke Hodge being done for drink driving doesn't even come close to being comparable to Ablett negligently feeding a young woman drugs that caused her to overdose then lying about what the drugs were - and she was 19 years old, he was 39...But if that was the criteria very few football players would be selected for anything.
Still recon I'd be pissed if I was a member of great Southern Family.Congrats on this to Joel. Gates (Ablett), bays (Harley, Ling), rooms (Costa) etc can be named after others but he will likely tower above all for a long time at GFC, and this is a great way to honour him. And far better to do it before he is dead (RIP Warnie).
As I posted earlier I am more than happy to honour Cook in another way but not having his name on a stand. He is a career executive. He did an amazing job at Geelong and is now steering Carlton towards a long awaited premiership.So going by your logic, should we remove Junior too?
Brian Cook turned our club around. Man deserves all the plaudits.
Fair point. I recommend James Button's book, which really delved into detail about the brilliance of Cook as an executive. Carlton can go and get stuffed though.As I posted earlier I am more than happy to honour Cook in another way but not having his name on a stand. He is a career executive. He did an amazing job at Geelong and is now steering Carlton towards a long awaited premiership.
More than happy to recognise him, just not having a major structure named after him. Just my opinion.
What he did for Geelong was nothing short of magnificent, but Cook is a career executive.
It's a moot point for now as the decision has been made. Do you disagree with the new stand being named after Joel?
You've watched a lot of footy.
Out of interest who are your top 5 Cats as
a) Players
b) Leaders
Selwood ranking quite highly on both makes him (relatively) unique, with respect to the many outstanding players and leaders we've had over the years.
Opportunity presented. The club probably won’t build another stand for generations. I liken it to Joel being offered the team captaincy at 22. “Too young” many said, just like “too soon” naming the new stand after a 4 time premiership player, club game record holder and longest serving captain?Yes. Far too soon for one thing. And Ablett having only a terrace named after him is absolutely ludicrous.