Past #31: David Hale - drafted at #7 in the Superdraft - 129 games for NM - traded to HFC in 2010

[DarkPhoenix]

12 goals at most

 

[Zvim]

David is too much of a liability at ground level to be able to afford to drop too many marks.

I also don't go in for this decoy business too much. A full forward as a decoy is an expensive exercise.

I agree. A decoy just means you are playing one short.

I just don't see how he is going to score 40 goals if we play Dish at FF after round 2. I'd be stoked if he could manufacture 40ish goals as a second or third tall but I just don't know if it will happen and don't think he should get a lot of AFL games if not performing.

It is what annoys me about Tarrant developed as a defender this pre-season, he had real potential to be a gun forward, something we need more than another serviceable tall defender.

 

[Krakeour Magic]

Well, of course, I base my assumption that David is going to get plenty of game time around goals.

I don't see any point in playing him anywhere else bar the goalface or in the ruck.

 

[DunderHead]

I reckon his best game last year was against the Swans. Though he missed all his goals he showed that he can stick a mark and move up the ground to claim more footy. Should be shifted with Drewie between the CHF and FF during games to get himself involved in the play. Get the feeling he spends to much time in the fifty waiting around, getting cold hands and forgetting what a footy looks like.

 

[Krakeour Magic]

I reckon his best game last year was against the Swans. Though he missed all his goals he showed that he can stick a mark and move up the ground to claim more footy. Should be shifted with Drewie between the CHF and FF during games to get himself involved in the play. Get the feeling he spends to much time in the fifty waiting around, getting cold hands and forgetting what a footy looks like.

I agree, and I think he should be thrown in to the ruck when he hasn't had an opportunity to get his hands on the ball, but where does that leave us with McIntosh and Goldstein?

 

[The Zebra]

Will benefit from having Petrie back in the forward line with him meaning he will not get the best defender or double team.

58 goals.

 

[Zvim]

Will benefit from having Petrie back in the forward line with him meaning he will not get the best defender or double team.

58 goals.

I'd love for that to happen, would be fantastic if it did. But, until I see it happen it is...

 

[The Zebra]

I'd love for that to happen, would be fantastic if it did. But, until I see it happen it is...

What is - Petrie in the forward line with Hale taking the best defneder (which was a rare occassion last year) or Hale kicking 20 more goals than he did in 2008 - a year in which he only spent half the year as a dedicated forward?

 

[Woodson]

David is too much of a liability at ground level to be able to afford to drop too many marks.

I also don't go in for this decoy business too much. A full forward as a decoy is an expensive exercise.

Expensive in what regard? If the goal stream avenue benefits the team, I'm all for the NEW AGE tactic.. especially if against a Top 4 opponent. So many tactics happening behind the scenes.. to allow Hale to take an uncontested catch on the wing and then just bomb it in is just INSANe.. so what I'm looking more of, is the mismatches... get Hale isolated.. one on one.. then when they (opposition catch on) ...they'll drop a player back.. and that leaves a spare up the field for North to create the loose man and possibly a goal stream with Hale pulling the best defender deep.

 

[Krakeour Magic]

Expensive in what regard?

Expensive in that he would offer nothing defensively or when the ball is on the ground. He must bring goals. If he can bag 2 a game and take the best defender, then I would rate that as satisfactory.

 

[RooHooDoo]

He will average around 2 goals a game


Total for the year = 4 goals.

 

[Woodson]

Expensive in that he would offer nothing defensively or when the ball is on the ground. He must bring goals. If he can bag 2 a game and take the best defender, then I would rate that as satisfactory.

I don't expect anything him defensively. Doubt he has a defensive bone in his body. That's an aspect of the game that's totally disappeared with the ruckman playing as the loose man in defense taking mark after mark (who remembers Capuano saving North in the 1Q of the '99 GF?) He should be earning his stripes with having some backbone with some defensive work... good point KM. Even having the best/ tallest defender... he should at least manufacture a couple opportunities EACH quarter to his team-mates.. I've seen him contribute in that way when he come to the game with his head screwed on.... other days, he was a cardboard cut out.

 

[budge11]

70-80. Somewhere around there.

Haha

 

[Zvim]

What is - Petrie in the forward line with Hale taking the best defneder (which was a rare occassion last year) or Hale kicking 20 more goals than he did in 2008 - a year in which he only spent half the year as a dedicated forward?

Yeah, Hale kicking 40 goals when he isn't the primary target for inside 50s. Would be fantastic if we got 40 goals out of a secondary tall but he needs to present well to be the target of inside 50s and it has been the leading and presenting that has been the weakness, he spent most of 2009 WWFing it with full backs. If he watches the Geelong games he is moving out and presenting an option and not wrestling.

If he sticks the dukes out and the arse out and goes for a gallop then you would be no hope in hell of spoiling legitimately without hitting the arms, he would get a mountain of frees just for presenting.

I mean ffs 6 frees for and 13 against. Some of our defenders didn't concede 2:1 frees. It just highlights how immobile he was last year.

 

[NMFC Est 1869]

Needs 60+ goals to avoid being traded to GC.

 

[Zvim]

Needs 60+ goals to avoid being traded to GC.

I don't think the number is as important as is his ability to hold down a position. He has been bumped out of the ruck, out of chf and now out of ff if what the club says is true.

I hope he can stake a claim for a position and the new look midfield and forward line help him kick enough goals to establish a spot in the side.

But, he turns 26 this year, has played 117 games, he shouldn't be in the wilderness. If he has a poor year we would likely get more for him via the compensation system given he was a first round pick and would have been on some reasonable coin than we would via a trade. Might be better if the club and player can agree to terminate the contract and let GC take him as an uncontracted player, assuming his season goes pear shaped.

But, I do hope that he can turn things around.

 

[The Other Dean]

I don't know if I'd call Hales a REBEL.

Professional agitator sounds a bit closer to the mark.

(What ever became of the ODHGPT anyway ?? Too official ??)

 

[The Other Dean]

I'd love for that to happen, would be fantastic if it did. But, until I see it happen it is...

I like your thinking.

Hales should get a little Tattoo and pretend he's Barry Hall.

 

[Twinkletoes]

I like your thinking.

Hales should get a little Tattoo and pretend he's Barry Hall.

That could be Azza's problem thus far..........HIS Tattoo's oversized, more in the mould of Ricardo Montalban.

 

[blackshadow]

57 - elsewhere I predicted 55-60 from the thatched one - I'm narrowing down to 57.

 

[Boozeroo]

Feeling like Mr. Optimism here (or maybe MR CC & cola...)

BUT I'm thinking maybe David could pull a Dougy Bollinger and just go right off.

Pencil me in for 56 Goals. And a wild card entry into the tag team championship match at Summerslam with MVP and Hornswaggle.

 

[king of the road]

(What ever became of the ODHGPT anyway ?? Too official ??)

A looser fitting stride is obviously more fasionable this (footy) season.

 

[bellzy]

(What ever became of the ODHGPT anyway ?? Too official ??)

I too would like to know. I resent this thread.

It's unAmerican.

 

[NICK_ROOBOY83]

I don't know if I'd call Hales a REBEL.

Think this thread would offend any true REBEL that reads it.

 

[John Dorian]

237.
Possibly 238.