Tassie wants more North

[GarnerSmash]

Then why play any games there?

So on that rationale Richmond are moving to Cairns, Hawthorn to Launceston and Melbourne to Darwin.

 

[jacko57]

Well I guess we will never see North Melbourne play Hawthorn in Melbourne ever again =(

maybe in a September in the coming years (probably not 2012)

 

[jacko57]

whats the word on Ballarat? Last I heard the state govt were still wishy washy on committing funds

to the Ballarat stadium proposal? or just in general?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Good!
If they get more games there, that means hawthorn will have the bargaining power with etihad, and uncle Andu signed a contract for x-games there

 

[laminex]

I can understand them not wanting rubbish games like Gold Coast and GWS down there. I think it's a fair clause seeing as they only get a couple of games a year. GWS shouldn't even be a team, Tassie should have got a team.

Tv rights don't give a stuff about tassie it's that simple. GWS pays for it's self Tassie could not pay for it's self.

 

[laminex]

So on that rationale Richmond are moving to Cairns, Hawthorn to Launceston and Melbourne to Darwin.

Can afford to live on there own Nth can not. Nth is going to have a tough choice when the new TV rights deal comes in.

 

[Saintly31]

Reports are circulating this morning about two key Tasmanian tourism chiefs wanting as many as 4 home games a year in Hobart. This would deny mainland North members more Melbourne home games, where the vast majority of it's membership resides.

They also want to attach conditions that GWS and Gold Coast not play as part of those 4 games. Obviously they are not good enough for Tasmania.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/143282/default.aspx

Yes, you have got that right Cmarsh.

I hope the key stakeholders in the NMFC deal do all it possibly can to ensure GWS do not play here again, and that the matches scheduled (however many it is) are half-interesting at the very least.

 

[King Elvis]

Tasmania should, following the conclusion of current agreements, withdraw all funding and offers they have on the table.

Request an AFL team be located in Tasmania, as a Tasmanian team, but, until then, they wont pour huge amounts of money into ailing (obviously not the Hawks *anymore*) AFL Clubs.

 

[Demonheart]

Tv rights don't give a stuff about tassie it's that simple. GWS pays for it's self Tassie could not pay for it's self.

This is a very sad fact and it's the reason with a successful GWS is so important to the AFL. Tassie should have a team but financially the AFL want GWS first.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Can afford to live on there own Nth can not. Nth is going to have a tough choice when the new TV rights deal comes in.

We play four games a year over four years in Tasmania and that will generate close to $20mil in direct income to the club. That's more than enough to ensure that the club is financially viable going forward. Besides, the AFL still needs games played at Etihad to satisfy the terms of that contract. Who would pick up the slack if North move full time to Tassie?

 

[Quivorir]

They do turn up, North Melbourne has a lower supporter base, therefore smaller attendances at games.

Exactly, the sooner people realize North have never been and never will have a big supporter base the better. WE will never pull the numbers of the likes of Collingwood and its time people accepted that.

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Tasmania should, following the conclusion of current agreements, withdraw all funding and offers they have on the table.

Request an AFL team be located in Tasmania, as a Tasmanian team, but, until then, they wont pour huge amounts of money into ailing (obviously not the Hawks *anymore*) AFL Clubs.

That would work if they held a stronger hand at the bargaining table.

They don't.

 

[Hawker81]

Exactly, the sooner people realize North have never been and never will have a big supporter base the better. WE will never pull the numbers of the likes of Collingwood and its time people accepted that.

Think everyone does realise that, and that is the problem. Why do you think the AFL wanted Hawthorn out of Tassie and North to play 7 games there.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hawks-say-no-to-afl-cash-20101115-17u7x.html

 

[Tassieboy]

No North are not going to Tasmania. I really hope not for North's sake. Would be quite sad.

 

[Saintly31]

Why? Fans of Gold Coast and other interstate clubs only have access to 11 games. Melbourne based clubs have access to 17 or 18. In reality, the Melbourne clubs are in a unique and fortunate position that they can co-locate, whilst providing an 11 game package for Melbourne based supporters.

Thats a really good point Funkalicous that is lost on most. Some Melb based NMFC fans seem to be already whining that they are missing out on seeing games due to the Hobart partnership, but don't realise that all interstate clubs will still see less or the same of thier own club compared to the Melb NMFC fans even if 4 games were played in Hobart.

Yet these same people desperately want our club to survive, whilst knowing it was about to fold due to being solely Melb based which is not sustainable. Whats that saying about having a cake and eating it too.....?

 

[Quivorir]

Then why us? GWS don't deserve to be in the comp, and in reality, Bulldogs have had far less success than us, are bottoming out (again) and dont look like going anywhere as usual. Piss them off down to Tasmania. We have a great bunch of loyal 20k supporters that if they could afford it would no doubt get the club out of debt themselves.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If the Roos are going to become Tasmania's team they've gone about it in an incredibly stupid manner. A Tasmanian team has to unite both North and south Tassie, and currently North Melbourne are associated with Hobart. The AFL has further divided the state by placing different teams in Hobart and Launceston, after citing the North-South divide as one of the impediments to a Tassie team.

Tasmanians have been following the VFL/AFL for donkeys, the only way locals will truly (and instantly) support a Tassie team is if it's brand new. It's a hard sell for a Tasmanian Geelong supporter to suddenly start supporting North. They deserve their own team, not Melbourne's unwanted scraps. Best case scenario (though unlikely) for Tassie getting it's own team in the next decade is a merger between 2 Melbourne clubs, which opens up a spot for a new team.

The AFL already tried to make it happen – before this season they tried to quickly ram in an agreement for North to play seven home games in Tassie (split between Hobart and Launceston). Hawthorn would have been kicked out of Tassie immediately (with due compensation). The deal fell over.

The AFL have showed their hand here, their long-term intentions re Tassie, Hawthorn and North are clear. They’ll settle the Tassie issue, and get North off their teat and onto the Tassie government’s. Hawthorn will be right anyway.

Whether or not it’s the right thing for football supporters of North Melbourne and Tasmania (it’s not), they’re not too fussed about.

 

[PrideOf]

Oh noes. Tassie wants what's best for Tassie.

Didn't they realise they should just accept whatever scraps North and the AFL threw it's way and call it icecream?

 

[CAS79]

Are we really discussing an article given to us by Marti Zucco... so more tourists can eat at his pizza shop... really?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Then why us? GWS don't deserve to be in the comp, and in reality, Bulldogs have had far less success than us, are bottoming out (again) and dont look like going anywhere as usual. Piss them off down to Tasmania. We have a great bunch of loyal 20k supporters that if they could afford it would no doubt get the club out of debt themselves.

you answered this question yourself:

Exactly, the sooner people realize North have never been and never will have a big supporter base the better. WE will never pull the numbers of the likes of Collingwood and its time people accepted that.

any club that either struggles to grow its supporter base OR struggles to build its finances will be left in the dust as the likes of WCE, Crows, Pies, Dons, and Hawks escalate the arms race with footy dept spending. If you cannot keep up, you will be consigned to 30 years of misery like Richmond, and staying afloat in that environment with low membership and poor finances is virtually impossible as Fiztroy found out.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Well I guess we will never see North Melbourne play Hawthorn in Melbourne ever again =(

I've seen people on here entertain the idea of it being a 'Tassie derby.' I don't understand the culture of Tasmania as I've never been there. But don't the north hate the south or something ludicrous like that? Four games a year is enough for young kids to get behind a club, so it could become a genuine 'event' for the state.

 

[Silent Alarm]

you answered this question yourself:



any club that either struggles to grow its supporter base OR struggles to build its finances will be left in the dust as the likes of WCE, Crows, Pies, Dons, and Hawks escalate the arms race with footy dept spending. If you cannot keep up, you will be consigned to 30 years of misery like Richmond, and staying afloat in that environment with low membership and poor finances is virtually impossible as Fiztroy found out.

In b4 Roylion about how Fitzroy are still afloat and how the AFL killed Fitzroy.

(Which is true.)

 

[Plugger35]

Tassie should have got their own team by now, they clearly have enough support there unlike GC or GWS.

Unless North can become more financially sustainable in Melbourne over the next few years then you could see the AFL pushing them to relocate down there full time, that way they could still keep an even number of teams. Not sure that would be ideal for either North or Tassie but it would kill two birds with one stone as far as the AFL is concerned.

 

[lock33]

Thread should be titled Tassie want more football. Not North.

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

We should of went to Gold Coast for $8.6 Billion when offered. Its too hard to find a McDonalds in Hobart