Play Nice Tippett Nominates Sydney - Part II

[Riders of Rohan]

Agree with this. Don't know why future trading isn't allowed. Would have made the situation a whole lot easier.

Open to massive exploitation of the father/son rule.

 

[Scotland]

Sydney have shit draft picks to offer because they won the flag, and to outsiders it appears none of their good players want to leave - nor do the club want them to.

If you go with the assumption that no players on Sydney's entire list will agree to be traded then they have nothing to offer that is close to Tippett's value. 22 & 40? Jesus, that'd be a bargain. It's an unfortunate situation that Tippett has placed the clubs in.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

The AFL need to get involved.

Free Agency was brought in for this - Tippett isn't one, so tell him and his ******* manager to stop acting like one.

Sydney have reduced their standing here as well; their reputation is taking a hammering. They simply do not have the currency to trade fairly, and refuse to use what they do have to acquire it - so they never should've made him an offer of this nature.

The AFL need to get involved and tell all of them to pull their ******* heads in.

You can consider it payback for you not being fair to us last year on the Armstrong trade.
Adelaide decided to play hardball then, on a fringe player never the less, this is just karma coming full circle.

In a market with only 1 buyer, he is only worth what the market is willing to pay.

EDIT: or even consider it karma for the Jacobs trade, Adelaide aren't some club that are above playing hardball to get a great deal for their club, shouldnt be a surprise when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[King Elvis]

Him and #35 for Johnston, who your Club wanted to get rid of?

And there isn't just one buyer.

Scotland, right - which means Sydney never should've put their offer on the table.

 

[Scotland]

Sydney are right to offer what they can/are willing to.

Adelaide are right to ask for whatever they want in return.

Eventually they'll either come to some sort of agreement or Tippett will go into the draft.

It sucks for Adelaide but Sydney are right not to upset the balance of their team too much to get Tippett. They just won the flag without him, so they don't need him as such. Trading out a Jetta or Haneberry or whoever is a dangerous gamble. You don't want to rob Peter to pay Paul for want of a less lame expression. Again, sucks for Adelaide big time.

 

[Ed_Gein]

Him and #35 for Johnston, who your Club wanted to get rid of?

And there isn't just one buyer.

Scotland, right - which means Sydney never should've put their offer on the table.

Have to agree, i think we might end up the better of the Armstrong - Johnston trade. We ended up getting Walsh with the draft picks in that trade.

 

[Elite Crow]

You can consider it payback for you not being fair to us last year on the Armstrong trade.
Adelaide decided to play hardball then, on a fringe player never the less, this is just karma coming full circle.

In a market with only 1 buyer, he is only worth what the market is willing to pay.

EDIT: or even consider it karma for the Jacobs trade, Adelaide aren't some club that are above playing hardball to get a great deal for their club, shouldnt be a surprise when the shoe is on the other foot.

Gunston, Maric? Selective memory you have

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Gunston, Maric? Selective memory you have

No I don't, that is the entire point...
You win some, you lose some, trying to paint this trade in isolation of being perfectly trading Adelaide being screwed over by the big bad Swans is a falacy.

 

[snakebite01]

Sydney are right to offer what they can/are willing to.

Adelaide are right to ask for whatever they want in return.

Eventually they'll either come to some sort of agreement or Tippett will go into the draft.

It sucks for Adelaide but Sydney are right not to upset the balance of their team too much to get Tippett. They just won the flag without him, so they don't need him as such. Trading out a Jetta or Haneberry or whoever is a dangerous gamble. You don't want to rob Peter to pay Paul for want of a less lame expression. Again, sucks for Adelaide big time.

I think this is a large part where Adelaide fans are getting annoyed.

I read a lot of people saying it's not really Sydney's fault, Tippett has put the 2 clubs in an awkward position etc. Well actually, it's entirely Sydney's fault. Tippett was all but gone to GC or Brisbane. If you don't want to break up your premiership team and don't want to lose any young players and aren't willing to compromise on the aforementioned, then keep your grubby, cash-laden mits away from the situation, especially as most Sydney supporters are claiming that he's not really needed.

 

[ADL9798]

I think this is a large part where Adelaide fans are getting annoyed.

I read a lot of people saying it's not really Sydney's fault, Tippett has put the 2 clubs in an awkward position etc. Well actually, it's entirely Sydney's fault. Tippett was all but gone to GC or Brisbane. If you don't want to break up your premiership team and don't want to lose any young players and aren't willing to compromise on the aforementioned, then keep your grubby, cash-laden mits away from the situation, especially as most Sydney supporters are claiming that he's not really needed.

You don't offer a player as much as Sydney are offering Tippett without thinking he's going to be a significant asset to the team and someone worth trading something of value for.

 

[nerRADIAN]

It's just not Sydney or PSD for Tippett. Adelaide will do what they can to get him to Sydney but won't accept anything less than what he's worth. If the Sydney deal falls through, I'm pretty sure Brisbane or GC will have offers that Adelaide and Tippett's management will have to accept rather than risking his chances in the PSD. To the Sydney supporters hoping to get him for massive unders, it's not going to happen.

If I was Sydney, I'd be selling the farm to get Tippett. An ageing list (second oldest, I think) that's in it's prime right now, could easily win another flag next year with Tippett and maybe another one after that before their senior stars retire and GWS and GC start raping.

 

[snakebite01]

You don't offer a player as much as Sydney are offering Tippett without thinking he's going to be a significant asset to the team and someone worth trading something of value for.

Exactly. It's just sheer arrogance offering what Sydney are and expecting to get him without taking any hit whatsoever to your current playing list.

 

[Scotland]

I think this is a large part where Adelaide fans are getting annoyed.

I read a lot of people saying it's not really Sydney's fault, Tippett has put the 2 clubs in an awkward position etc. Well actually, it's entirely Sydney's fault. Tippett was all but gone to GC or Brisbane. If you don't want to break up your premiership team and don't want to lose any young players and aren't willing to compromise on the aforementioned, then keep your grubby, cash-laden mits away from the situation, especially as most Sydney supporters are claiming that he's not really needed.

Why should Sydney stay away from Tippett? To appease Adelaide fans?

If Sydney can get a player as good as Tippett below market value then it is in their best interests to do so.

If you're looking to apportion blame then it's Tippett's fault, not Sydney's. Tippett is the one that has decided instead of going home he wants to go to the club with the most money and worst draft picks. If he was still open to going to Brisbane/GC then Sydney would have to make the call on whether to match what they can offer and if so how to go about it.

 

[Scotland]

You don't offer a player as much as Sydney are offering Tippett without thinking he's going to be a significant asset to the team and someone worth trading something of value for.

Sydney won't trade 'something of value' unless they have to.

The whole affair is a big jar of vaseline for the Crows, but if the situation was reversed does anyone really think Adelaide wouldn't use a strong bargaining position to their advantage?

 

[db swannie]

"There is a difference between knowledge and information"...That's the best you could come up with? Not try to argue the original point with a pertinent argument, thus proving me wrong, but continue with more irrelevant rubbish. That doesn't even make sense in the context you used it.

Shouldn't you be in bed by now?..no doubt you have school tomorrow.

I could've just googled "argument" or whatever you typed but when I studied we actually read books. Your initial point was weak and dealt with in another post, hence I have no need to repeat myself for the benefit of a blubbering Hawks supporter still bitter about the grand final.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Look mate why not troll off hey? Your anti crows input does nothing to improve this thread. Its not a threat. I think they're quite serious. And if they do, they'd have their legitimate reasons. Given that Port Adelaide are the only club in the history of the afl to actually take this action you are lolling at, gaining nothing for Nick Stevens, isn't that a touch amusing in its own right?

The difference of course being that Stevens didn't get to his club of choice.

 

[Go the Guts]

The difference of course being that Stevens didn't get to his club of choice.

Irrelevant. Port got nothing. Off u go........

 

[db swannie]

You don't offer a player as much as Sydney are offering Tippett without thinking he's going to be a significant asset to the team and someone worth trading something of value for.

Except for the fact you don't know what Sydney are offering. Which makes everything you've written pure, unadulterated speculation.

 

[Draft Bored]

If we can't secure a gun player (no interest in drafts, we're in the window) then the Crows have my vote to put Kurt in the PSD. Normally I would be annoyed that the club received nothing but after seeing how Kurt has conducted himself I think it's only fair. He lied to the coach days before quitting, then lied to the club and fans saying his move was related to homesickness.

He would probably still be picked up by Sydney but I think it sends a good message to players that act in the same manner that he has. At least Nick Stevens was genuinely trying to move back home to Melbourne. Kurt is just marketing himself as a free agent!

 

[Scotland]

There is no guarantee Tippett will end up at Sydney if he goes into the ND/PSD.

Who will blink first?

 

[bobshoby]

At this point i'm just disappointed we can't donate 2-300k to melbourne so they can grab him in the PSD
Pissing in Sydney/Tippett's eye looks like the only thing we can hope to achieve

 

[Powerade 08]

There is no guarantee Tippett will end up at Sydney if he goes into the ND/PSD.

Who will blink first?

The money and contract length is probably so absurd for a guy who plays as a decoy forward/ruck pinch hitter that nobody else will be prepared to pay it.

Letting him walk works if there are other clubs who will snap him up, not so sure there will be. Stevens was a long time ago. Adelaide will trade him.

 

[bobshoby]

One upside to the PSD if he ends up at Sydney is the potential instability as all of their precious 'battlers' learn just how much more the club values Tippett than the rest of them

 

[Super sub]

It's just not Sydney or PSD for Tippett. Adelaide will do what they can to get him to Sydney but won't accept anything less than what he's worth. If the Sydney deal falls through, I'm pretty sure Brisbane or GC will have offers that Adelaide and Tippett's management will have to accept rather than risking his chances in the PSD. To the Sydney supporters hoping to get him for massive unders, it's not going to happen.

If I was Sydney, I'd be selling the farm to get Tippett. An ageing list (second oldest, I think) that's in it's prime right now, could easily win another flag next year with Tippett and maybe another one after that before their senior stars retire and GWS and GC start raping.

Agree that Adelaide should not accept anything less than what he is worth . But what he is worth is only what someone will pay. By offering tippett a substantial contract Sydney have priced everyone else out of the market.

There would appear to be no other bidders in the auction. So then Tippett them becomes worth what sydney will pay.

Brisbane and GC have both said they have moved on. Who else is in play.

 

[Arwib]

One upside to the PSD if he ends up at Sydney is the potential instability as all of their precious 'battlers' learn just how much more the club values Tippett than the rest of them

Yeah it really hurt our club spirit when Barry Hall and Daniel Bradshaw came in on big coin.