Stop the boats. 5k a head. (cont. in Part 2)

[Brown Bottle]

Their conduct's completely questionable in this situation.

Because they reported what you (and ScoMo) didn't want to hear?

 

[Brown Bottle]

How can you possibly make such a statement without the full facts at your disposal?

Anything that doesn't reflect well on the LNP and their policies is questionable.

 

[mottrain]

Anything that doesn't reflect well on the LNP and their policies is questionable.

This has no reflection on the lNP at all.

 

[Brown Bottle]

This has no reflection on the lNP at all.

I must have missed the press release. Who is responsible for the administration of the concentration camps these days?

 

[louismaxwell]

These refugee advocates from Save the Children has shown themselves to be undermining the government by encouraging asylum seekers to make up false accounts of abuse and encouraging them to self harm. What a horrible ghastly lot this mob is the organisation needs to be closed down immediately and all of those involved charged with the full weight of the law. To encourage people to self harm is really beyond almost a comparison to attempted murder . I hope no one lowers themselves by trying to come to the defence of this mob. AND Maybe SARAH HANSON YOUNG should be looked at aswell to see ifs she now a fit and proper person to be a sitting parliamentarian.

 

[romeoh]

These refugee advocates from Save the Children has shown themselves to be undermining the government by encouraging asylum seekers to make up false accounts of abuse and encouraging them to self harm. What a horrible ghastly lot this mob is the organisation needs to be closed down immediately and all of those involved charged with the full weight of the law. To encourage people to self harm is really beyond almost a comparison to attempted murder . I hope no one lowers themselves by trying to come to the defence of this mob. AND Maybe SARAH HANSON YOUNG should be looked at aswell to see ifs she now a fit and proper person to be a sitting parliamentarian.

Haha- Am assuming you can produce the evidence supporting these claims, otherwise you might like to hold on bit longer to see what eventuates.

 

[louismaxwell]

Haha- Am assuming you can produce the evidence supporting these claims, otherwise you might like to hold on bit longer to see what eventuates.

If it proves true which i know it will, i hope you will be joining me in condemning them and not keep silent.

 

[romeoh]

If it proves true which i know it will, i hope you will be joining me in condemning them and not keep silent.

If it proves to be true, I will not be pleased that such a professional organization and that has done such good work for a long time as STC would be involved in such practices. Unlike you, who apparently knows it is true, ( and good on you for having a crystal ball), I prefer to wait and see what unfolds.

 

[Brown Bottle]

These refugee advocates from Save the Children has shown themselves to be undermining the government by encouraging asylum seekers to make up false accounts of abuse and encouraging them to self harm. What a horrible ghastly lot this mob is the organisation needs to be closed down immediately and all of those involved charged with the full weight of the law. To encourage people to self harm is really beyond almost a comparison to attempted murder . I hope no one lowers themselves by trying to come to the defence of this mob. AND Maybe SARAH HANSON YOUNG should be looked at aswell to see ifs she now a fit and proper person to be a sitting parliamentarian.

richmonds please. There's no need to post ScoMo's press releases in here. We're perfectly capable of finding them for ourselves.

 

[GuruJane]

Coup: Post 6615

India have a full blown Maoist insurgency going on in the majority of their provinces.
India have Kashmir. India are not signatories to the UN Convention and can't offer legal recognition to refugees.
Indian refugee camps are unsafe hellholes with severe crime and public health issues. They're designed as a temporary reprieve, like the Thai camps for Burmese refugees.

Coup: Post 6628

Sorry, if you actually knew what you're talking about I'd be happy to discuss it with you. But you've spent about 3 seconds googling (and got it wrong) and you've ignored the vast bulk of my post. My assessment is that you have no excuse for thinking the insurgency is limited. That kind of ignorance is either deliberate or breathtaking. Last warning.

Coup, given what you posted in #6628 could you please post links or other evidence that justify your claim that India has a full blown Maoist insurgency in most of its provinces? Where in the "vast bulk" of your post did you demonstrate the veracity of your claims re the scale of the Maoist insurgency?
Are you another newbie on BF belching hot air and BS?

 

[The Coup]

Haha nice try, no dice. India doesn't work as an option and I've clearly demonstrated why.

 

[romeoh]

Haha nice try, no dice. India doesn't work as an option and I've clearly demonstrated why.

Sigh. They never listen-doesn't matter how many times something is explained-they just keep coming back with same stuff.

 

[louismaxwell]

richmonds please. There's no need to post ScoMo's press releases in here. We're perfectly capable of finding them for ourselves.

I'll just say once this is proven it will just show that Scott Morrison stands head and shoulders above everyone. All the needless abuse he has taken without complaint just goes to show the decency of the man and what resolve he has shown. If he isn't a future Prime Minister then it will be the Australian peoples greatest loss.

 

[GuruJane]

Haha nice try, no dice. India doesn't work as an option and I've clearly demonstrated why.

Coup the newbie revealed so soon - all hot air and belch.

 

[Brown Bottle]

I'll just say once this is proven it will just show that Scott Morrison stands head and shoulders above everyone. All the needless abuse he has taken without complaint just goes to show the decency of the man and what resolve he has shown. If he isn't a future Prime Minister then it will be the Australian peoples greatest loss.

There's seriously only one person in the world who could say such things. Welcome to Big Footy Scott!

 

[romeoh]

I'll just say once this is proven it will just show that Scott Morrison stands head and shoulders above everyone. All the needless abuse he has taken without complaint just goes to show the decency of the man and what resolve he has shown. If he isn't a future Prime Minister then it will be the Australian peoples greatest loss.

Haha U cannot be cereal.
If he is your definition of decency, I sure hope I never have to encounter your indecent types.

 

[Gough]

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...f-persistent-child-abuse-self-harm?CMP=twt_gu

Guardian Australia has obtained, from a number of sources, minutes of welfare meetings and a Transfield intelligence report, which detail some of the child protection and abuse concerns in Nauru camps.

Those documents show, in the week beginning 2 June:

• A 17-year-old boy who attempted suicide with a razor after being told he was not allowed access to the internet.

• A 16-year-old girl who told her case workers she had been tormented and sexually harassed by detention centre security guards. The girl reported a number of male Nauruan employees “have tried to hug her, kiss her, told her they would marry her and asked her to have a ‘sexy party’”.

• A 17-year-old boy who attempted suicide by strangling himself.

• A nine-year-old boy from a war-torn country who had begun bed-wetting, and pulling clumps of hair from his head. His mother talked openly about suicide, and “states that she wishes to be dead and would gladly kill herself, however this is a sin and she will be punished so will not do this”. The boy’s mother had discussed being returned to her country of origin because she “knows this will result in her being killed”.

• An eight-year-old boy regularly in fights with other children, and who staff struggled to deal with because there was no interpreter who spoke his family’s language.

• A 13-year-old boy who had only irregular access to his sleep medication, and who was uncontrollably manic at school after not sleeping for 24 hours. His mother was missing.

• A 15-year-old boy who was not eating, and was “displaying signs of depression” after his father was taken to Brisbane in a medical emergency.

In the report for the week ending 13 April, reports raised concerns about:

• An eight-year-old boy who bullied and fought with other children and had attacked teachers, but who cried under a blanket each night, hiding his distress from his parents.

• Several children, the youngest aged four year, who had had both parents arrested for taking part in protests, and were left with no family to care for them.

• An eight-year-old girl and her 10-year-old brother who were attacked by other detainees because their father was accused of assaulting another detainee.

• A 10-year-old boy who had to be physically restrained from attacking other children and had been banned from school because of the threat he posed to other students.

Guardian Australia has also obtained a copy of a Transfield Services intelligence report for Saturday 2 August. It shows:

• Eight detainees were required to be under constant ‘line of sight’ monitoring, four for acts of self-harm.

• One man, who had “self-harmed by banging head” was not permitted to be more than arm’s length from a guard at any time.

• Three women were deemed high security risks because of attempts and threats of self-harm, and aggression towards staff.

• Other detainees were on half-hourly monitoring, others on three-hourly, also because they had committed acts of self-harm, or were deemed “vulnerable”.

• Guards were instructed to monitor detainees’ moods and whether people were refusing food and water.

Morrison is utter disgrace. To announce an enquiry into these incidents and to then imply that these people had somehow been coached into these actions is disgusting.
GuruJane are these people suffering enough for your liking?

 

[mottrain]

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...f-persistent-child-abuse-self-harm?CMP=twt_gu

Morrison is utter disgrace. To announce an enquiry into these incidents and to then imply that these people had somehow been coached into these actions is disgusting.
GuruJane are these people suffering enough for your liking?

Sorry someone tell me how Morrison is in any way responsible for all these people's behaviour?

 

[Docker Clint]

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...f-persistent-child-abuse-self-harm?CMP=twt_gu

Morrison is utter disgrace. To announce an enquiry into these incidents and to then imply that these people had somehow been coached into these actions is disgusting.
GuruJane are these people suffering enough for your liking?

He's always been a pig of a man.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-sees-votes-in-antimuslim-strategy-20110216-1awmo.html

Stopping boats is about deaths at sea of course.

 

[louismaxwell]

He's always been a pig of a man.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-sees-votes-in-antimuslim-strategy-20110216-1awmo.html

Stopping boats is about deaths at sea of course.

Scott Morrison has saved many lives from the possible death of drowning at sea, he slowed the boats down to absolutely nothing. Is it too much that a bit if gratitude be shown rather than abuse. To me the one you should be directing your vitriol is Tony Burke whoever oversaw numerous boats capsizing at sea and ignored all the drownings that occurred as though he was looking the other way and could not be bothered to stop this , this is the man Tony Burke who should die of shame.

 

[Jiska]

Scott Morrison has saved many lives from the possible death of drowning at sea, he slowed the boats down to absolutely nothing. Is it too much that a bit if gratitude be shown rather than abuse. To me the one you should be directing your vitriol is Tony Burke whoever oversaw numerous boats capsizing at sea and ignored all the drownings that occurred as though he was looking the other way and could not be bothered to stop this , this is the man Tony Burke who should die of shame.

Correction. Morrison has ensured that people are tortured and murdered elsewhere rather than at sea.

 

[The Coup]

This article explains perfectly why nobody wants to talk about the ethnic cleansing of the Hazara minority in Afghanistan.

Its because Afghanistan is heading towards a "Diet Saudi Arabia" future of becoming an official Wahhabi terror state, and the Hazara are going to be purged in the process. A diaspora in the west makes that a lot harder.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jul/19/hazaras-blame-game-afghanistan

 

[mottrain]

Correction. Morrison has ensured that people are tortured and murdered elsewhere rather than at sea.

Blame morrison for stopping deaths at sea .

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

These refugee advocates from Save the Children has shown themselves to be undermining the government by encouraging asylum seekers to make up false accounts of abuse and encouraging them to self harm. What a horrible ghastly lot this mob is the organisation needs to be closed down immediately and all of those involved charged with the full weight of the law. To encourage people to self harm is really beyond almost a comparison to attempted murder . I hope no one lowers themselves by trying to come to the defence of this mob. AND Maybe SARAH HANSON YOUNG should be looked at aswell to see ifs she now a fit and proper person to be a sitting parliamentarian.

Proof?

 

[The Coup]

Proof?

Wait are you really suggesting we need proof before we accept that a humanitarian child welfare organisation in operation since 1919 has deliberately tried to harm children by encouraging self harm, even though self harm has clearly not led to any special treatment or change in legislation anyway, and would essentially have been pointless (and that STC would have known and seen that at the time with all the non encouraged self harms) as well as leading to actual physical and mental trauma for the people they are qualified, experienced and employed to take care of?

What are you some kind of conspiracy theorist?