No Oppo Supporters Re-signing Tex, Danger and Sloane *** Crows Only ***

[Pugsley]

Somebody's arse

The horses ?

 

[Pdub]

Can someone explain to me where all this Jeremy Cameron stuff is coming from?
Wasnt Redhorse banished for such rumours? Lol

The word is that as a country boy he doesn't like living in Sydney, wants to live somewhere less crowded, he is from a place right on the border near mount gambier and has family that live in Adelaide. Adelaide's small town feel and the fact he could live on acreage 20mins drive from training make it a good option for him. If you don't like big cities, you're not going to move from Sydney to Melbourne. There's nothing that puts us ahead of port though.

 

[TrainRoo32]

The word is that as a country boy he doesn't like living in Sydney, wants to live somewhere less crowded, he is from a place right on the border near mount gambier and has family that live in Adelaide. Adelaide's small town feel and the fact he could live on acreage 20mins drive from training make it a good option for him. There's nothing that puts us ahead of port though.

Yeh, fair enough this has been around for a while.
But realistically we cannot offer anywhere near market rate for him! Or the right trade that would please GWS, they wouldn't be stupid to let him go after loosing Boyd and Patton always being injured! He is the franchises Key Player, the only way they would ever trade him is for another proven forward!

 

[Pdub]

Yeh, fair enough this has been around for a while.
But realistically we cannot offer anywhere near market rate for him! Or the right trade that would please GWS, they wouldn't be stupid to let him go after loosing Boyd and Patton always being injured! He is the franchises Key Player, the only way they would ever trade him is for another proven forward!

He would be un-contracted, so they wouldn't have as much bargaining power. The fact is we have a good young forward line, Port adelaide's key forward Schulz will be 31 next trade period, without Schulz, port are not a top 4 side, they need to replace him fast and JC would be their dream replacement. If he chooses SA, port would sell the house to get him, we probably won't be able to compete with what they are willing to offer. Port with JC for the next 10 years is a scary thought.

 

[TrainRoo32]

He would be un-contracted, so they wouldn't have as much bargaining power. The fact is we have a good young forward line, Port adelaide's key forward Schulz will be 31 next trade period, without Schulz, port are not a top 4 side, they need to replace him fast and JC would be their dream replacement. If he chooses SA, port would sell the house to get him, we probably won't be able to compete with what they are willing to offer. Port with JC for the next 10 years is a scary thought.

Yeh fair point, do agree with you there. Plus they could front load him hard, as they are allowed to pay over their salary cap for 2016 aswell

 

[Pdub]

Yeh fair point, do agree with you there. Plus they could front load him hard, as they are allowed to pay over their salary cap for 2016 aswell

how so?

 

[TrainRoo32]

how so?

Part of equalisation measures if a club had paid under the salary cap ceiling in 2013,2014- then they can pay the differential the in 2015-2016!

So if they payed 93% in 2014, they can pay 107% of the cap in 2016!*

*thats how I understood it anyway

 

[Don Muraco]

Part of equalisation measures if a club had paid under the salary cap ceiling in 2013,2014- then they can pay the differential the in 2015-2016!

So if they payed 93% in 2014, they can pay 107% of the cap in 2016!*

*thats how I understood it anyway

That is a bullshit rule if true. It's rewarding mediocrity and poor financing. This competition is so compromised by crap its ridiculous. ****!!! Not to mention they have never made a profit, EVER!!!

 

[spenze]

Hate to think we paid full totes for the effort put up last year

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

The horses ?

Straight from the horses arse, thats the saying isn't it?

 

[spenze]

Part of equalisation measures if a club had paid under the salary cap ceiling in 2013,2014- then they can pay the differential the in 2015-2016!

So if they payed 93% in 2014, they can pay 107% of the cap in 2016!*

*thats how I understood it anyway

They had to pay 95% minimum in 2014

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

Hate to think we paid full totes for the effort put up last year

Reckon it would be close, 97-8% i reckon, considering mckay signed a few others they wouldve front loaded last year to leave room for the big 3 this year.

 

[TrainRoo32]

They had to pay 95% minimum in 2014

Watever it is, 93% is just a figure to explain the rule

 

[TrainRoo32]

That is a bullshit rule if true. It's rewarding mediocrity and poor financing. This competition is so compromised by crap its ridiculous. ****!!! Not to mention they have never made a profit, EVER!!!

Save, then spend: League's new player payments scheme announced

A NEW TPP BANKING MECHANISM

Was: Clubs had to pay between 95 and 100 per cent of salary cap each season. Clubs often prepaid players, which sometimes created problems down the track if predicted success did not happen, removing flexibility.

Will be: The introduction of a new TPP banking mechanism that allows clubs to spend over 100 per cent of the TPP and ASA limits (combined limit), if in any of the preceding two years the club spent below 100 per cent of the combined limit.

The permitted amount of overspend is commensurate with the level of underspend in the relevant preceding period.

For instance, if a club was $500k below the combined limit in 2015, it can spend up to $500k over the combined limits across 2016 and 2017

The overspend amount in any given year permits a club to spend up to a maximum of 105 per cent of the combined limit in that year.

This mechanism is effective from season 2015 (as such any underspends in 2013 and/or 2014 can be recovered in 2015)

Why was it changed?
The AFL wants battling clubs to use extra funds on players as it rises up the ladder and manage its list more efficiently as it does so. This measure provides more flexibility without locking clubs into pre-payments and unnecessary speculative future projections of talent.

That's from the press release, a lil different to how I explained it but yeh

 

[Don Muraco]

Save, then spend: League's new player payments scheme announced

A NEW TPP BANKING MECHANISM

Was: Clubs had to pay between 95 and 100 per cent of salary cap each season. Clubs often prepaid players, which sometimes created problems down the track if predicted success did not happen, removing flexibility.

Will be: The introduction of a new TPP banking mechanism that allows clubs to spend over 100 per cent of the TPP and ASA limits (combined limit), if in any of the preceding two years the club spent below 100 per cent of the combined limit.

The permitted amount of overspend is commensurate with the level of underspend in the relevant preceding period.

For instance, if a club was $500k below the combined limit in 2015, it can spend up to $500k over the combined limits across 2016 and 2017

The overspend amount in any given year permits a club to spend up to a maximum of 105 per cent of the combined limit in that year.

This mechanism is effective from season 2015 (as such any underspends in 2013 and/or 2014 can be recovered in 2015)

Why was it changed?
The AFL wants battling clubs to use extra funds on players as it rises up the ladder and manage its list more efficiently as it does so. This measure provides more flexibility without locking clubs into pre-payments and unnecessary speculative future projections of talent.

That's from the press release, a lil different to how I explained it but yeh

Thanks for that. So if your broke , you can spend more.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Was the parmesan grated fresh or will the tub from the supermarket do the job.

Yeah it was from the tub. The finer the better , spreads the cheese better. Just make sure you mix it well with butter or marg.

How did it turn out ?

I wish people would stop hijacking this thread with talk about JC and stAy on topic....so rude

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Pity this rule wasn't in when we had the $800k Tippett black hole.

Triggy was ahead of the curve.

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

Pity this rule wasn't in when we had the $800k Tippett black hole.

Triggy was ahead of the curve.

Such an innovator he was; Lincoln abolished slavery, luther-king championed equal rights, and triggy re-imagined the salary cap, rewrite the history books folks to include our newest visionary please!

 

[1970crow]

Yeah it was from the tub. The finer the better , spreads the cheese better. Just make sure you mix it well with butter or marg.

How did it turn out ?

I wish people would stop hijacking this thread with talk about JC and stAy on topic....so rude

 

[footy4ever]

The horses ?

Personally I think it came out of a bull's.

 

[Tex Danger]

maybe this is why CC said its better for Danger and Sloane to wait to sign their deals. Wonder who the player who made the personal enquiry was, of the out of contract players Danger would be one of the highest profile to make it relevant for.

Also relevant to the discussion had by some before on what accountants can do for a player.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-11/players-tax-win

AFL PLAYERS have won a significant tax break in future contracts after the Australian Tax Office ruled that a player is able to licence his image rights to a third party.

The ruling will allow players to have a percentage of their contract income paid to a private company or trust for the use of their image rights, taxed at a companies and trusts level that is lower than the highest personal tax rate of 49 per cent.

AFL.com.au understands that the percentage allocated, which is capped at 30 per cent, will continue to be counted as football payments for the purposes of AFL rules and total player payments.

The AFLPA told agents on Tuesday of the development, which has been given impetus by a player seeking a private ruling from the Australian Tax Office while negotiating a new contract.

The AFLPA has been working on getting an outcome on player image rights for players for several years.

For a player to be eligible he must demonstrate the valuation of his image is commercially justifiable, and the arrangement will need to be documented in two contracts – the standard playing contract and the player image rights contract.

To determine the amount a player can apportion to image rights, a formula involving elements such as best and fairest placings, All Australian selections, draft position and his age has been developed.

The arrangements will not apply to contracts for first- and second-year players, rookies and players on minimum CBA payments.

 

[FR0GGY]

maybe this is why CC said its better for Danger and Sloane to wait to sign their deals. Wonder who the player who made the personal enquiry was, of the out of contract players Danger would be one of the highest profile to make it relevant for.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Niximus]

What do you mean by this?

"The AFLPA told agents on Tuesday of the development, which has been given impetus by a player seeking a private ruling from the Australian Tax Office while negotiating a new contract. "

 

[FR0GGY]

"The AFLPA told agents on Tuesday of the development, which has been given impetus by a player seeking a private ruling from the Australian Tax Office while negotiating a new contract. "

That's what I get for skim reading.

 

[Niximus]

Was it a crows player or we just guessing it is?

It doesn't say who. I don't think anyone's guessing that it was, but we can speculate that it may have been. If it was a Crow, it would likely be Paddy IMO.