Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[subaru]

Manslaughter is not murder, the victim would not care about the difference.

Different penalties, different reaction by family and friends , compassion and forgiveness in the case of manslaughter being accidental or unintended

This is what is missing in this whole fiasco

And all due respect - we are talking about someone being called a name and having their feelings hurt
Not murder

 

[Footy Is The Win]

Anyone else hope he gets booed this weekend or am I sick?

I think Australians are strong minded people who hate to be labelled so if the booing does happen it proves once and for all it was never race motivated.

I hope they boo the shit out of him. Let him know we have feelings too.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I hope they boo the shit out of him. Let him know we have feelings too.

I really feel for you.

 

[Footy Is The Win]

Sorry to harp on this but I do think it's high time one of you good folk came up with a single verified quote of Adam Goodes saying the people booing him are racists. Just one will do thanks.

What are we debating about then? How did all this become a race issue? Has Adam Goodes since come out and said it's not about race?

 

[Monkey King]

"Gone against the grain?" Have you any idea how many people take their cue from Andrew Bolt? Hundreds of thousands. Yet you complain that his perspective is being frozen out of the conversation. (PS Bolt, Devine and Alan Jones are not interested in "conversation", in fact that's the last thing they would want to have happen.)

What was this about perceptions again?

It's certainly against the grain of the majority of press and officialdom on the issue from what I've seen.

 

[subaru]

No, and neither did Goodes. He said the girl probably didn't know the racist connotation. I think she did, however, that's just speculation. See? Not all Goodes defenders hang off his every word. I could just imagine the backlash the poor bugger would have received if he said she knew it was racist.

He called her the " face of racism"

That's calling her a name that is hurtful also- and he had all night to choose his words
Two wrongs and all that

subaru variety.

so racism bad but sexism good
<sigh>

 

[Footy Is The Win]

I really feel for you.

Don't.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

What are we debating about then? How did all this become a race issue? Has Adam Goodes since come out and said it's not about race?

No, but I believe the only time he was asked in an interview if the people booing were racist he replied "I don't know".

 

[subaru]

What are we debating about then? How did all this become a race issue? Has Adam Goodes since come out and said it's not about race?

He loaded the gun and every self righteous man and his dog are firing it

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

What was this about perceptions again?

It's certainly against the grain of the majority of press and officialdom on the issue from what I've seen.

Maybe. I wouldn't know. But I would certainly think it likely that the Alan Joneses and the Andrew Bolts and their fellow travellers have far greater sway over public opinion than "officialdom".

 

[DrEvil_]

Anyone else hope he gets booed this weekend or am I sick?

I think Australians are strong minded people who hate to be labelled so if the booing does happen it proves once and for all it was never race motivated.

Like I said before, I sell eggs and there's nothing I'd like to see more than boos this weekend.

 

[Chief]

His agenda is to convince YOU that all the boooing is racially motivated, which is wrong. I don't have a political agenda, I don't blindly follow a party either.

So you have no agenda. Cool.

Why do you not like the idea that people think some of the booing is racially motivated? How does it hurt you if they think that? You can still boo and you will not be ejected from a match. What do you care about anything else given you claim to have no political agenda?

 

[Chief]

Like I said before, I sell eggs and there's nothing I'd like to see more than boos this weekend.

I hope you're just trolling, not actually wishing that people would throw projectiles at Goodes. That sounds like you're trying to incite violence.

You wouldn't do that would you?

 

[DrEvil_]

I hope you're just trolling, not actually wishing that people would throw projectiles at Goodes. That sounds like you're trying to incite violence.

You wouldn't do that would you?

I think you missed something...

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

He loaded the gun and every self righteous man and his dog are firing it

Yes, Andrew Bolt's dignified silence on the subject has been so inspirational and impressive.

Cuts both ways you know. You may say what you want about Adam Goodes but to suggest only one side is fanning the flames of this imbroglio is just ignorant, or fatally biased.

 

[Chief]

I think you missed something...

We both have

 

[Footy Is The Win]

No, but I believe the only time he was asked in an interview if the people booing were racist he replied "I don't know".

That leaves me very confused.

 

[Chief]

He called her the " face of racism"

Then said it wasn't her fault, that she should not be harassed.

Where is this good ol' Aussie "apology has been made, get over it, move on" spirit we keep hearing about?

 

[subaru]

If their actions arising from that ignorance are wilfully nasty, yes.

Sorry, I just dropped in on your conversation with a general comment and don't even know specifically what you guys were discussing. Carry on.

How - if you're ignorant of a fact- can you then be "willfully " nasty ?

If you take her at her word - just for a minute - stay with me on this - if you believe she did not know ape was a racial slur , the only thing she is guilty of is being a rude
loudmouth smart arse kid .

And ... stay with me still here .... Without wanting to cast any aspersions - she was a Collingwood supporter .... she had probably heard much much worse at the footy before the ape comment came out if her mouth

 

[JackOutback]

Can we have a filter for SJW please?

What pillock came up with this abbreviation?

 

[The_Reaper]

Yes, Andrew Bolt's dignified silence on the subject has been so inspirational and impressive.

Cuts both ways you know. You may say what you want about Adam Goodes but to suggest only one side is fanning the flames of this imbroglio is just ignorant, or fatally biased.

It's fairly obvious that the media created this monster in the first place.

 

[Chief]

she had probably heard much much worse at the footy before the ape comment came out if her mouth

You're starting to sound like Adam Goodes.

 

[Monkey King]

But just to be clear, calling an indigenous person an ape is racial abuse. End of story.
The girl may not have known ( I call BS) but that doesn't change the fact that it is racial abuse.

Among the more stupid things I've read in my life tbh.

I just can't accept this. My experience in establishing common ground with people of different cultural perceptions screams to me that inflexibility like this is most counter-productive (not to mention pretty arrogant).

 

[subaru]

You're starting to sound like Adam Goodes.

How so ?

 

[Chief]

Can we have a filter for SJW please?

What pillock came up with this abbreviation?

It is used by bigots of every flavour to shout down anyone with the opinion that the world would be a better place if bigots kept their views to themselves. It is apparently the worst insult one person can say to another.