Are Brisbane irrelvant in Queensland. A lions supporter says they are..
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maybe auskick isnt a viable product to adults as the tag and tackle versions of the game satisfy demand.
Again mini and mod are just the amended rules for kids.
I thought kids played normal afl but could also play auskick on the side?
Is a sport different because it is run by a different governing body?? I thought it was based on the sport itself.
Ie if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck
then guess what....
it is a duck.
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Min and mod yep is for kids. As is auskick.
Besides passing backwards what does touch have to do with league?
In that argument you basically calling all rugbys, oztag and touch the same game.
Hell aussie rules share some cricket terms so lets count cricket participants.
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You mean like, rolling the ball between the legs, a dummy half, onside, offside, intercepts etc. etc.
Everything I've read about touch links back to the South Sydney RL Club. The game is the mirror image of RL without the tackling.
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The scrums, the numbers, the kicking?
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And? You asked what Touch had in relation to RL besides passing backwards so I gave you some. Even as a young boy back in NZ we used touch as part of our training. Not having a scrum and handing the ball back was common when you dropped it. Surely with your RL background it shouldn't be too hard to accept where the game got its origins.
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So are you going to include union in the numbers as well?
You know origins and all
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I couldn't give a * about numbers. It's all a bullshit chest beating exercise. As I said earlier, everything I've read about the history of touch leads back to two men from the SSRL club. If you have anything which counters this then feel free to post it.
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I couldnt care less how its started.
I was replying to someone else who said that touch is the same as Auskick.
This is blatently wrong.
If you want to beat your league chest some more qoute someone else.
I will be dancing the mumbo when the NRL dies (a guy can dream).
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If you don't want your questions answered then maybe don't ask them.
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If i wanted bias league nrl bull id go to rleague world, or is the big one league unlimited now?
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The historical link is true, but until last year thats literally all it was.
I think this thread is particularly true this weekend. With Broncos V Cowboys on sunday
Imagine if Freo had made it to the GF. Two Qld teams in Sydney & two WA teams in Melbourne for the 2 GFs! That would have been amazing.
Imagine if Freo had made it to the GF. Two Qld teams in Sydney & two WA teams in Melbourne for the 2 GFs! That would have been amazing.
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What bias? I merely answered your question in an honest manner.
For me Touch will always link back to RL given the similarities between the two sports and from my own experiences on how the game evolved back in NZ, and of course, playing it.
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Riiiiight.
You involved yourself in another convo and picked one post.
Interesting you didnt hammer pappa for his "chest beating" as well considering he was on the nrl side.
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When I said I couldn't give a * about the participation numbers it wasn't aimed just at you. I've posted before on the issue. For me participation numbers are easy manipulated by different sports. An example would be say my son doing Auskick, playing for his local club, and then playing for his school. He'd be counted 3 times as a participant. Same would happen in other sports which have varying levels of participation.
Alas that wasn't my point and we really could've ended this earlier with a simple fair point AM.
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When I said I couldn't give a **** about the participation numbers it wasn't aimed just at you. I've posted before on the issue. For me participation numbers are easy manipulated by different sports. An example would be say my son doing Auskick, playing for his local club, and then playing for his school. He'd be counted 3 times as a participant. Same would happen in other sports which have varying levels of participation.
Alas that wasn't my point and we really could've ended this earlier with a simple fair point AM.
Fair enough.
Fair point
Just have an unnatural hatred of the nrl now.
At least im honest
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there arent any. its that simple. Sorry this troll attempt failed you.
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Ummm adios.
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The link between participation and watching is weak
There are school kids playing soccer in Melbourne who would sooner play Australian football but can't at that school.
There are school kids playing Australian football in Sydney who would sooner play Rugby League, again can't at that school.
The only numbers that matter in my opinion are registered players.
I have friends in Brisbane whose kids were forced to play Union in their school, even though they wanted to play Aussie rules at a local club. If a sport isnt available, thats one thing, but to force then to represent the school, or leave, is pretty ugly.
i was a broncos member in the 90's and followed AFL on a casual basis, and had never been to a game. during the lions rise up the ladder pre the 3 peat i decided to go to a game out of curiosity i was hooked virtually straight away. it was right what some people had told me ie. aussie rules is a great spectacle live at the ground. the following season it was a choice between broncos and lions membership, the lions won out and this was right when the broncos were at their peak ie. premiers 97, 98 and 2000. in my first year as a member my 15 year old son was a member as well, a decade after that the 2 of us plus his 2 kids were members. from 2016 there will be 7 11 game members from our family, 4 adults + 3 kids. the 2 boys are registered players.
the not rusted on supporters of sport in qld are bandwagon jumpers, (i know quite a few of them) which is fine a few like me might be converted. when the lions rise from this period of bottom 4 finishes membership and crowds will increase significantly. when that happens, as long as they don't fall as far and as for as long again crowds and membership will not fall as much as in this cycle. with the off field changes made in the last few years with the addition of swan, schwab, matthews, lambert, austin and a new training and administration base coming i am confident this will happen. i think the go home 5 was the recession that we had to have. it gave us the shock therapy that was needed to shake us up on and off field.
the addition of qld talent through the academy is growing and this will only help, jonathan freeman, liam dawson, reuben william, ben keays, eric hipwood and almost certainly jacob allison and jack rolls next year plus recent qld recruits dayne beams and tom bell is fantastic for the future of the game. queenslanders are in general very parochial and will support there own v the southern interlopers you only have to look at the s.o.o. to confirm that.
the lions roar will return.
the not rusted on supporters of sport in qld are bandwagon jumpers, (i know quite a few of them) which is fine a few like me might be converted. when the lions rise from this period of bottom 4 finishes membership and crowds will increase significantly. when that happens, as long as they don't fall as far and as for as long again crowds and membership will not fall as much as in this cycle. with the off field changes made in the last few years with the addition of swan, schwab, matthews, lambert, austin and a new training and administration base coming i am confident this will happen. i think the go home 5 was the recession that we had to have. it gave us the shock therapy that was needed to shake us up on and off field.
the addition of qld talent through the academy is growing and this will only help, jonathan freeman, liam dawson, reuben william, ben keays, eric hipwood and almost certainly jacob allison and jack rolls next year plus recent qld recruits dayne beams and tom bell is fantastic for the future of the game. queenslanders are in general very parochial and will support there own v the southern interlopers you only have to look at the s.o.o. to confirm that.
the lions roar will return.
Interlopers? Who?
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In 2012 I returned to Brisbane after living in Sydney & Canberra for 10 years. What amazed me was the lack of publicity the Lions receive in Brisbane. There just appeared to be a lack of 'presence' by the club. In Sydney, it was Swans advertised everywhere despite being a rugby league town.
A mate of mine (Geelong supporter born in 1964 whom I bet would never see a premiership in his lifetime) & I often trundle off to a game & just want to sit in the cheap seats. Unfortunately, the only seats available are $50+. Instead we wander off to the Pineapple Hotel & watch the game on the screen only to see the seats we could have purchased empty. The Lions management were just trying to cherry pick the audience when they should welcoming all supporters.
I don't think the Lions are irrelevant but they seemed to be out of touch with AFL fans in Brisbane. They still average 18.8k per home game coming second last compared to the NRL runners up averaging 33.6k per game in a rugby league dominated city.
A mate of mine (Geelong supporter born in 1964 whom I bet would never see a premiership in his lifetime) & I often trundle off to a game & just want to sit in the cheap seats. Unfortunately, the only seats available are $50+. Instead we wander off to the Pineapple Hotel & watch the game on the screen only to see the seats we could have purchased empty. The Lions management were just trying to cherry pick the audience when they should welcoming all supporters.
I don't think the Lions are irrelevant but they seemed to be out of touch with AFL fans in Brisbane. They still average 18.8k per home game coming second last compared to the NRL runners up averaging 33.6k per game in a rugby league dominated city.
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