2016 US Presidential Election - Trump vs Clinton? - Part 1

[Todman]

He's a four time bankrupt with a string of business failures behind him, and yet he's somehow he's seen ads this huge success who's going to change America. It's a triumph of style over substance.

Trump: tried failed, tried succeed, tried failed, tried succeed, tried failed, tried succeed, tried failed, tried succeed,

Gough: "There's always time to smoke weed."........"Why has he got more than me?"

 

[Fire]

Trump's backing out of the Sanders debate is his first real gaffe which I think will hurt him.

He had everything to gain from it; they could have both attacked Clinton after she shut herself out by going back on her commitments, he could have pointed out how Sanders was treated unfairly (and agreed that wall street was corrupt and the establishment needed an overhaul), and any attacks Sanders would have landed wouldn't have mattered because he won't be the nominee. By doing this debate he could have damaged Clinton AND courted a lot of of the anti-establishment independents currently supporting Sanders.

Instead he comes out looking bad instead of Clinton.

So IDK. I thought he was smarter than that.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Trump's backing out of the Sanders debate is his first real gaffe which I think will hurt him.

He had everything to gain from it; they could have both attacked Clinton after she shut herself out by going back on her commitments, he could have pointed out how Sanders was treated unfairly (and agreed that wall street was corrupt and the establishment needed an overhaul), and any attacks Sanders would have landed wouldn't have mattered because he won't be the nominee. By doing this debate he could have damaged Clinton AND courted a lot of of the anti-establishment independents currently supporting Sanders.

Instead he comes out looking bad instead of Clinton.

So IDK. I thought he was smarter than that.

Or sanders states on stage that there is no way his supporters should vote for trump because he is antithetical to everything he stands for and that they should vote democrat no matter who the nominee is. That would have hurt trump.

Don't forget trump is actually a really bad debater on policies. He can take cheap shots at opponents when there at 10 people on stage when everyone had a minute to speak. Explaining a policy in depth when there are only two. No chance.

There's a good chance we won't see a Hillary v trump debate for that very reason

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Sanders would have crucified him on any actual topic.

He can play personality politics with Clinton instead in a months time.

Avoiding Sanders was smart.

 

[Gough]

Sanders would have crucified him on any actual topic.

He can play personality politics with Clinton instead in a months time.

Avoiding Sanders was smart.

Maybe it was smart, but it also highlights a significant weakness of his. It's all very well to stand up, and throw insults left, right, and centre in front of a partisan audience, but to win the election he's going to have to be a lot more sophisticated than that.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Maybe it was smart, but it also highlights a significant weakness of his. It's all very well to stand up, and throw insults left, right, and centre in front of a partisan audience, but to win the election he's going to have to be a lot more sophisticated than that.

Depends. No mandatory voting and the death of the American middle class will help him.

If its between him and Clinton we are all ****ed either way.

 

[mellowyellow]

Sanders would have demolished Trump on substance so its not surprising to see him chicken out

 

[ep2018]

The odds on Clinton copping shit or an indictment for the email scandals?

I have always believed that even if the FBI went at her, Obama would presidential pardon her from any wrongdoing.

 

[WA ROO]

The odds on Clinton copping shit or an indictment for the email scandals?

I have always believed that even if the FBI went at her, Obama would presidential pardon her from any wrongdoing.

Zero

More chance of me waking up between Scarlett Johansson and Halle Berry tomorrow morning

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Trump has chickened out. Of course.

Guess Trump is just a CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK

that's the word his supporters like

 

[hazard]

Is that you hazard ?

Nope, I've been banned Thanks for all the notifications while I was gone guyz.

Haven't heard back from you on the detail front so I'll just go with this.

1) Meaningless motherhood statement.

2) An end to neo-conservative and humanitarian intervention wars. Fair policy points to make.

3) Fair arguments to be made. (Outdated military equipment though? I doubt even the USAF would have the gall to try that one on)

4) Russia has ZERO interest in helping the United States achieve anything. Syria was a one off because of Tartus. Confronting Islam contradicts 2).

5) If he manages to actually achieve this, I will personally fly to the US and crown him Caesar. By that I mean it is both EXTREMELY unlikely to happen and also a very good idea.

Sounds like you agree with most of it.

And liberals still have the nerve to ask why people support Trump.

They already know why people vote Trump. BECAUSE THEY'RE ****ING WHITE MALES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Trump's backing out of the Sanders debate is his first real gaffe which I think will hurt him.

He had everything to gain from it; they could have both attacked Clinton after she shut herself out by going back on her commitments, he could have pointed out how Sanders was treated unfairly (and agreed that wall street was corrupt and the establishment needed an overhaul), and any attacks Sanders would have landed wouldn't have mattered because he won't be the nominee. By doing this debate he could have damaged Clinton AND courted a lot of of the anti-establishment independents currently supporting Sanders.

Instead he comes out looking bad instead of Clinton.

So IDK. I thought he was smarter than that.

I agree with this. He should have either a) Declined immediately to avoid more violence, and avoid turning off Bernouts, or b) Once he accepted, he should have gone in 100%. It's risky, but had the potential to cripple Crooked Hillary's campaign.

That, and I really really wanted to watch that debate.

And to everyone who said that Bernie would destroy Trump in a debate... Bernie has had quite a few debates against one of the worst presidential candidates in history, someone who is corrupt, nasty, with no charisma whatsoever... and he's still losing. Meanwhile, Trump has debated against some of the finest debaters in the world (Ted Cruz may be an evil religious fanatic, but he's so good at debating that Princeton named a debating prize after him) and wins so much we're getting tired of winning!

MAGA!

 

[Fletched]

Bad move for Trump to pull out of debate...


Anyway the Trump train will go on

He is leading in Oregon!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/314133773/Clout-Research-Poll-Oregon

 

[ep2018]

Bad move for Trump to pull out of debate...


Anyway the Trump train will go on

He is leading in Oregon!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/314133773/Clout-Research-Poll-Oregon

Dark blue state that...

But Hillary is leading Trump in a couple of red states too I believe? Gonna be a whacked out election imo.

 

[mellowyellow]

Nope, I've been banned Thanks for all the notifications while I was gone guyz.

Yeah I noted you a been carded so just assumed this maybe an alternate account because the style of posting mirrored yours.
Good to see you back,....now behave

 

[hazard]

Yeah I noted you a been carded so just assumed this maybe an alternate account because the style of posting mirrored yours.
Good to see you back,....now behave

Dammit I want to keep trolling Weagles over Gaff

As a Richmond fan, I'm sure you appreciate the joy of a solid elbow to the head of a West Coast player.

Just bought my first MAGA hat! Doing my bit to make the wall ten feet higher!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Dammit I want to keep trolling Weagles over Gaff

As a Richmond fan, I'm sure you appreciate the joy of a solid elbow to the head of a West Coast player.

Just bought my first MAGA hat! Doing my bit to make the wall ten feet higher!

And you're about to have another holiday if the mods are doing their job.

 

[mellowyellow]

Dammit I want to keep trolling Weagles over Gaff

As a Richmond fan, I'm sure you appreciate the joy of a solid elbow to the head of a West Coast player.

Just bought my first MAGA hat! Doing my bit to make the wall ten feet higher!

Vickery sends his love and says to always go down swinging or roundhouse,which ever comes first

 

[hazard]

And you're about to have another holiday if the mods are doing their job.

Vickery sends his love and says to always go down swinging or roundhouse,which ever comes first

Lucky you don't have to play them again this year, you have to be very delicate with their players

 

[ep2018]

Lucky you don't have to play them again this year, you have to be very delicate with their players

Unlucky we dont get you both twice, I would love another two wins in the bank.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Bad move for Trump to pull out of debate...


Anyway the Trump train will go on

He is leading in Oregon!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/314133773/Clout-Research-Poll-Oregon

For Trump to challenge Sanders, then back out, hurts his tough guy image.

 

[hazard]

Unlucky we dont get you both twice, I would love another two wins in the bank.

Stay on topic!

 

[hazard]

 

[hazard]

Sanders would have demolished Trump on substance so its not surprising to see him chicken out

 

[mellowyellow]

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Trumps hair = orange
Trumps courage = yellow

 

[TheMightyEagles]

Trumps hair = orange
Trumps courage = yellow

So Crooked Hillary is a coward? Given that she's the one actually competing with Crazy Bernie in the Democratic primary. As opposed to Trump whose already won.