List Mgmt. 2016 Trade/FA Thread 2.0: Ahern (pg168); Hrovat (pg252); Williams (pg270)

[DunderHead]

If Omeara is worth a first rounder or equivalent then Ahern probably is worth a second, especially if we are confident of being able to get him back to full fitness. But a good deal for us would be to somehow pay less. Maybe they could throw us this year's third rounder. Or maybe we throw in our fourth rounder and they give us Picket/WHE.

 

[cardje]

Am happy to take Ahern pick 32, would love Hrovat to but not for pick 31...

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Ahern has done two knees hasnt he?

 

[jclei]

Am happy to take Ahern pick 32, would love Hrovat to but not for pick 31...

Hrovat wouldnt be worth anything under 50 odd. He is in the Aaron Black trade value territory

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Ahern has done two knees hasnt he?

Yes

 

[The chorus]

Ahern isn't even here yet and we are shitting on him for not being Boomer. Brilliant.

I am always amused the way posters get all worked up over rumours or speculation, and immediately start rubbishing the recruiting staff, the coach or the club. Why not wait for facts before making such judgements?

 

[cardje]

Yes

Both knees or the same knee twice?

 

[tales129]

Did the first one in February did he not, then does a knee (not sure if the same one) in September.

That's some sort of turn around, possible Lars initially?

I'd be hoping he relaxes takes the necessary time and gets it right for 2018. Kid could be just what we need

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Both knees or the same knee twice?

Right knee twice.

 

[Mav]

Both knees or the same knee twice?

same knee, twice.

 

[Shermanator]

Both knees or the same knee twice?

Same person, same leg, same knee, twice

 

[Chog]

I think people will be pleasantly surprised with Ahern.

Former pick 7, good young, classy, outside midfielder who can kick goals.
Yes, he's done his knee twice. Clay Smith did his 3 times. People wanted O'meara who's injuries were much worse.


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[Rooboy 96]

I am not that convinced on Ahern, did not even get a game in before doing the same thing to the same knee and was at the club for 12 months as a top 10 pick and hadn't got a game.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/greater-w...fter-serious-knee-injury-20160908-grbj52.html

 

[cardje]

I think people will be pleasantly surprised with Ahern.

Former pick 7, good young, classy, outside midfielder who can kick goals.
Yes, he's done his knee twice. Clay Smith did his 3 times. People wanted O'meara who's injuries were much worse.


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You make a point Smith 3 reckos and was arguably the dogs best finals player along with 1-2 others.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Same person, same leg, same knee, twice

As opposed to the same person, same leg, different knee

 

[slider1978]

Can't wait till next week when we get no one and then pay overs for someone like Dear. Offer pick 32 for him.


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[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

I am not that convinced on Ahern, did not even get a game in before doing the same thing to the same knee and was at the club for 12 months as a top 10 pick and hadn't got a game.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/greater-w...fter-serious-knee-injury-20160908-grbj52.html

... at GWS, a club with nothing but first round draft picks. It's not unusual.

 

[Shermanator]

As opposed to the same person, same leg, different knee

Which is the same as, same person, different leg, same knee..

 

[Chog]

I am not that convinced on Ahern, did not even get a game in before doing the same thing to the same knee and was at the club for 12 months as a top 10 pick and hadn't got a game.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/greater-w...fter-serious-knee-injury-20160908-grbj52.html

Tough for a first year to get a game in a GWS midfield that has Shiel, Ward, Treloar, Greene etc


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[trooroo4life]

Did the first one in February did he not, then does a knee (not sure if the same one) in September.

That's some sort of turn around, possible Lars initially?

I'd be hoping he relaxes takes the necessary time and gets it right for 2018. Kid could be just what we need

Had full knee reco in Feb, no lars. Surely September was way too early to start pushing it again. If we get him, like you suggested take a full season off to get it absolutely 100% and then get him ready for '18 could be a long term steal.

 

[Rooboy 96]

... at GWS, a club with nothing but first round draft picks. It's not unusual.

Tough for a first year to get a game in a GWS midfield that has Shiel, Ward, Treloar, Greene etc

I am not asking for you to try and change my opinion, I am just stating it.

 

[cardje]

I just hoped whoever we get we don't cop it like we did with Andersen paying pick 15 for a bloke who was mid 2nd round AT BEST

 

[Flawed Genius]

I just hoped whoever we get we don't cop it like we did with Andersen paying pick 15 for a bloke who was mid 2nd round AT BEST

nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

I am not asking for you to try and change my opinion, I am just stating it.

Wasn't trying to change your opinion, just pointing out that it was wrong.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Re Ahern, according to NEAFL reviews he was inconsistent in his first season. He played 15 games in the NEAFL, was rested once and senior emergency once so didn't play.

However, within that inconsistency he was in the best on 7 occasions. Given he was a first year player that aint too bad at all.

There are two issues with going after a bloke like Ahern. Firstly is cost. If it doesn't cost us a great deal then fine, not a bad get. But hte big issue is the injury to the knee. Watch his highlights and you will see a big weapon for him is his ability to change direction on a match head without missing a beat, especially in close. given a double reco, just how much will this ability be affected?

If our medico's recon that come 2018 he will be good to go and that his knee isn't any more ****ed than anoyone with a double reco, then go for it. But if there is doubt the price we pay must be adjusted accordingly.

Kids got a ****load of ability and a family tie to the club. Defo worth the enquiry at the very least.