Gibbs requests trade to Adelaide

[Sanders]

What can your big intellect tell us about 2017? Where are Carlton and Adelaide likely to finish? Do you think we need to take calculated risks to win a flag?

Nice shirk.

 

[Jinglebells32]

An amazing deal for us, but an absolute reaming for Gold Coast.

No-one in their right mind at Gold Coast would be stupid enough to make that trade.

I'd throw in Mackay as well

 

[the universal]

How long would a club realistically need to put in a deal? I can't imagine Carlton would want to let this drag on for too long due to Marchbank/Pickett.

 

[Allefgib]

And regardless of your risk appetite there is always a walk away price

If the price is 2 firsts we walk & firesale heartless for 13 straight. Port bite our hand off

Rockliff - for pick 13 Brisbane will eat 1/2 his salary. If we can get 26 for Lyons that's prob enough for rocky

If the price is 2 firsts we can get BOTH heartless & Rockliff for less

I love Gibbs as a player but we're better off in the scenario with heartless Rockliff & 2017 first safe

It's not even close in that scenario

If we give up 2 first rounders for Gibbs then our recruiters have failed. They have failed to gauge what price it would cost us before we went down this path.

If we were prepared to give up 2 firsts we should have targeted a younger better player than Gibbs and made it happen.

Ive no issue with paying the right price or improving in other ways than landing gibbs.

Its the balance of cake.

 

[ams4crows]

I still hold hope that itll get done today.
Carlton need 13 for the GWS boys they want.

You and me both! ..... and everybody else

 

[marty36]

This is hilarious

Adelaide dont really have a choice

The consequeences of Gibbs coming and failing after giving up two first rounders would be a horrendous situation, him alone will not win us a premiership it may help as would both Crouchs taking the next step in the mid without Gibbs there

The deal doesnt go ahead and Adelaide say SOS was too hard to deal with and we would have had to sell the farm

Which one do you think the AFC could control the backlash on?

 

[VKCrow]

I'm in perth which is pretty much a day behind now with day light savings. What time EST is the deadline?

 

[jenny61_99]

I'm in perth which is pretty much a day behind now with day light savings. What time EST is the deadline?

2pm...... tomorrow.

 

[Pugsley]

Nikkinoo, have you made enough for everyone?

I'm glad you asked her because I'm a middle child that doesn't share.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

How long would a club realistically need to put in a deal? I can't imagine Carlton would want to let this drag on for too long due to Marchbank/Pickett.

Reckon we will see a result today, but I doubt this deal is holding up our GWS deal. We will have multiple scenarios in play with them depending on which pick we use. Also talk that we might get Geelong's 2017 1st for Tuohy and our 2017 2nd and GWS probably hold 2017 picks in higher regard right now.
SOS probably has an idea of which scenario he would prefer and is just waiting to see how the rest of the chips fall, but I would expect that a GWS deal could get done quite easily in the last minutes tomorrow, so no stress there.

 

[Pugsley]

Ive no issue with paying the right price or improving in other ways than landing gibbs.

Its the balance of cake.

Its settling [emoji5]

 

[relapse]

So if someone bids on F/S Edwards next year as first rounder, and we've swapped our first for Carltons second?

Depends what pick they try and use.

If it's pick 9

Pick 9 (1469) less 20% discount = 1176

A late 20s pick and an early 30s pick will be able to match that offer.

 

[GROTTO]

Agreed. Totally different situations. Can you imagine if we were in this scenario with danger? Signs 5 year deal, wants to go home after 2.... we would have been able to pillage Geelong for 3 first round picks minimum.

In fairness, Danger is a top 5 player in the comp and bona fide match winner singlehandedly.

 

[gothecrows]

Cant we just use our 2nd and a later pick to add the points together? Or is that not how it works anymore?

No, you have to use the next one.
Now, if your next pick would mean you're paying too many points (with the discount), then you get the excess added to the following pick, and it potentially moves up the order.

 

[Jarman3]

Reckon we will see a result today, but I doubt this deal is holding up our GWS deal. We will have multiple scenarios in play with them depending on which pick we use. Also talk that we might get Geelong's 2017 1st for Tuohy and our 2017 2nd and GWS probably hold 2017 picks in higher regard right now.
SOS probably has an idea of which scenario he would prefer and is just waiting to see how the rest of the chips fall, but I would expect that a GWS deal could get done quite easily in the last minutes tomorrow, so no stress there.

I thought the talk was also that Calrton would get our 2016 and 2017 1st for Gibbs and their 2017 2nd. Are Carlton going to cut their 2017 2nd in half and give it to both Geelong and Adelaide?

Bah, I'm confused. Just end this farce and do the damn deals. This trade period needs to be cut down to a single week in order to make these people focus on getting business done instead of all the posturing and d*ck waving.

 

[dylan123]

Also talk that we might get Geelong's 2017 1st for Tuohy and our 2017

I don't think Geelong can trade their 2017 first round pick.

Need to use two in a four year period and they've already traded away 2015 and 2016 first round picks.

 

[dogs105]

No, you have to use the next one.
Now, if your next pick would mean you're paying too many points (with the discount), then you get the excess added to the following pick, and it potentially moves up the order.

Interestingly, suppose pick 6 was used to bid, and the matching club held seven and 8. With the discount, 1400 points needed to match, so pick 7 used, and 244 points added to pick 8, which makes it pick 6, and the Universe implodes.

 

[jaytex]

*goes and does an hour of actual work*

*comes back to thread, presses F5, sees only two pages added... dammit!*

 

[GROTTO]

What can your big intellect tell us about 2017? Where are Carlton and Adelaide likely to finish? Do you think we need to take calculated risks to win a flag?

+1

He can't comprehend this so arguing with him is futile.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

*goes and does an hour of actual work*

*comes back to thread, presses F5, sees only two pages added... dammit!*

I'm more

*goes and looks at Gibbs thread for an hour*

*goes and does actual work for 5 minutes*

 

[the universal]

Kornes is claiming we were going to take 13 into the draft if Gibbs didn't happen.

That's ... disappointing to hear if accurate. Makes it sound that we weren't too fussed on going for big targets until Gibbs fell in our lap?

 

[Bicks]

Kane might be on the money too,,

 

[Red mist]

 

[Elite Crow]

We must keep Lyons if this is the case

 

[dogs105]

Kane might be on the money too,,

don't mind that - better than paying big overs