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Nope just the Trump campaign since late 2015
Also Trump tower
Obama didn't do any such thing.
Also Trump wasn't suggesting Obama may have recorded his calls with Comey.
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Nope just the Trump campaign since late 2015
Also Trump tower
The wiretapping claim, turned out to be false; largely in part due to the fact "wiretapping" is a very specific term. To claim Trump and co. wasn't under surveillance is absurd though.The Obama tweet was another falsehood. As if the Obama administration was recording convos in the Trump Whitehouse.
Of course, which is why no-one's making a big deal about it. The interesting thing is, even though he was entitled to do so, he chose to leak it through an intermediary rather than do so himself. A channel which could have been used before. One more interesting thing is, neither the original memo nor the copy that has been handed in as evidence, despite repeated requests to do so from Congress.Also he fired Comey before Comey gave out any information and Comey as a private citizen is entitled to release his own notes. It's not a leak if it is your own stuff.
As a private citizen with a thirst for knowledge, I love whistle-blowers and leakers but surely you can see why governments/governmental agencies do not and will work to remove them.Where would we be without whistle-blowers? Yet some would have you believe that possible corruption should be kept a secret.
So Obama's National Security Advisor did it without him knowing?Obama didn't do any such thing.
Also Trump wasn't suggesting Obama may have recorded his calls with Comey.
No, I never suggested he was. Your mind filled in the blanks.Obama didn't do any such thing.
Also Trump wasn't suggesting Obama may have recorded his calls with Comey.
If you talking about Susan "I did it all myself" Rice notes
Didn't play him at all. Got him Meuller, think it may be the don that got played.You said yourself that you find him funny and have the popcorn out. He played Comey beautifully and everyone is horrified that he "lied" (when he didn't)??
Everyone brushes off the "4D chess" comments, but the truth is the bloke didn't get to where he is in life without being a sound strategist.
The wiretapping claim, turned out to be false; largely in part due to the fact "wiretapping" is a very specific term. To claim Trump and co. wasn't under surveillance is absurd though.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...ser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel
Of course, which is why no-one's making a big deal about it. The interesting thing is, even though he was entitled to do so, he chose to leak it through an intermediary rather than do so himself. A channel which could have been used before. One more interesting thing is, neither the original memo nor the copy that has been handed in as evidence, despite repeated requests to do so from Congress.
As a private citizen with a thirst for knowledge, I love whistle-blowers and leakers but surely you can see why governments/governmental agencies do not and will work to remove them.
So Obama's National Security Advisor did it without him knowing?
No doubt someone has a recording of those meetings
Maybe Admiral Rogers?
Rice requested that individuals who were recorded incidentally through tapping of Russian officials be unmasked. That is not the same as tapping Trump officials.
We don't know who was unmasked yet as they won't release the records as they are supposedly in the Obama library for 5 years
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It matters a lot , we need to know if us persons who were not communicating were unmasked
It's dodgy
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This has nothing to do with the contention that Obama had Trump tapped. Read the discussion back.
I guess a win is a win and margins dont count for anything.Riddle me this ...
The Georgia 6th results in 2016 were:
Republicans 61.7%
Democrats 38.3%
( source)
The Georgia 6th results this week were
Republicans 51.9%
Democrats 48.1%
( source)
Now if those results had happened in a by-election in Australia, the main story would have been that swing. Despite winning the seat, the incumbent party would be pilloried with predictions of a wipeout at the next general election.
It's not being reported in the US media that way at all. The democrats aren't even pushing that line. Trump is claiming vindication and the Democrats have their tails between their legs.
I don't get it?
Does the voluntary voting thing change the whole dynamic? Or?
The claim was that Obama had his tapped and it had nothing to do with how specific the term was. If intelligence agencies were following collusion leads and made requests or Trump staff were unmasked through tapping of Russians, that isn't on Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_CongressMueller is investigating. That's who he is handing things over to. Why give Congress anything? The likes of Nunes are hopelessly compromised, if not corrupted. Their hearings are a farce. Note that other intelligence leaders and justice department officials are saying little at these hearings because of the special counsel.
Because from the perspective of the United States government, it is.I can see that. I'm just wondering why you speak of Comey being a leaker as though it is a bad thing.
Can you elaborate as I don't see it has any relevance.Everything to do with it
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Because the district was won last time by a giant margin. 60k registered voters down for the republicansOssoff did worse than Clinton did in that district. It is another disaster for the democrats, how they are trying to spin this as a win is beyond me
Do you know if she is back on SBS? Love her show.
Harsh but true
In the general election Clinton lost by less than Ossoff in that district! They have clearly done worse and lost ground since the general electionBecause the district was won last time by a giant margin. 60k registered voters down for the republicans
Nothing on Russia so we move on to obstruction. Maybe this time eh? Sad!Didn't play him at all. Got him Meuller, think it may be the don that got played.
He got where he is from daddy's money and the Ruskies.