The overall wellbeing of football in Melbourne?

[Colonial]

Firstly the Perth stadium nor any other will be larger and secondly Melbourne is the capital city of the game and the proper location for the GF so no excuses needed just occasionally explanation of the way it is and will be.

Ahh. Ok. So just say that its a traditional advantage and that shouldnt be given up.

Save the balony.

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[sjohns12]

If there is an issue with Melbourne football, it isn't centered around strength of performance, it is around if the population and level of support for footy is high enough to sustain good crowd numbers at say, a North vs Gold Coast game. Personally, I think no, but if the AFL is willing prop up Gold Coast and GWS on their low crowd figures, then it would be obscenely hypocritical of them to displace a 100 year old Melbourne club.

 

[sjohns12]

Firstly the Perth stadium nor any other will be larger and secondly Melbourne is the capital city of the game and the proper location for the GF so no excuses needed just occasionally explanation of the way it is and will be.

Surely you'd have to agree though that the fact that if say, Adelaide play Richmond or Essendon in the GF it is unfair that they would have to play what is an away game despite finishing top? Especially considering they're supposedly not good at the MCG.

 

[Colonial]

If there is an issue with Melbourne football, it isn't centered around strength of performance, it is around if the population and level of support for footy is high enough to sustain good crowd numbers at say, a North vs Gold Coast game. Personally, I think no, but if the AFL is willing prop up Gold Coast and GWS on their low crowd figures, then it would be obscenely hypocritical of them to displace a 100 year old Melbourne club.

We arent successful after 100 years we should be moved.

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[sjohns12]

We arent successful after 100 years we should be moved.

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But the sides being proposed to move have been, North just halfway through last year were top of the ladder, St Kilda less than 10 years ago went to back to back GFs, there was talk of moving the Bulldogs up until last year.

I think it would be good for the game to perhaps have less Victorian teams but it would have to be a move for crowd/popularity reasons, not for on field performance

 

[mcgarnacle]

When the Eagles and Dockers made the final together there was going to be a parliamentary enquiry into the state of footy in Victoria. The Dees missed by fractions of a percent, so footy is fine in Melbourne. Until Mario from Doncaster gets disappointed.

and % is a crock. MEL finished on equal comp points, and also, defeated WCE this year.....in Perth even. sooner they go to head-to-head, the better. but yeah, tradition and all

 

[pablo668]

Yeah since 06 it's been all Victorian clubs bar one winning premierships.

Hawks while having an average year are certainly heading in the right direction, Essendon despite everything recovering well.

Footy in the Victorian clubs bar.....maybe three I can think of is looking pretty strong actually.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Won't happen, but can you imagine if the league were split between Victoria and Non Victorian conferences when there are 20 clubs... the Victorian preliminary final at the MCG would be just as big if not bigger than the AFL grand final the following week... 2 Victorian rivals guaranteed to face off in the penultimate week every year

 

[Carringbush2010]

If only that were true...the badges say afl, but the contracts still say vfl

Location of GF...
Over half the comp is from..
Brownlow medal naming comes from...


Until these change it won't be a true afl

Agreed, and let's be honest it can never be truly national and equal at least not in the foreseeable future

 

[Carringbush2010]

Agree they should merge a couple of vic clubs then start a new team in tas (not a relocation)

Hazard a guess that would be around 80k members if you merge North and Carlton, of course ignoring the paying non members - not sure Gil would go for that.

 

[Kwality]

Neither of those competitions are the number 1 in their respective codes.

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So what, junior participation has no corollation with crowds at the top level in Australia.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Bullshit. If you hate the VFL so much why do you support a club that joined it. Could have followed the WAFL.

You've come into our house you are eating our food living in our bedrooms and complaining the house doesn't have enough bathrooms or parking spots

Freo didn't join the VFL. They joined the AFL.

 

[Colonial]

Bullshit. If you hate the VFL so much why do you support a club that joined it. Could have followed the WAFL.

You've come into our house you are eating our food living in our bedrooms and complaining the house doesn't have enough bathrooms or parking spots

Im guessing you dont complain about advantages victorian clubs dont get then.

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[Colonial]

So what, junior participation has no corollation with crowds at the top level in Australia.

Makes a massive difference when you can be at the pinnacle of your sport and at home.

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[Thetrader15]

Freo didn't join the VFL. They joined the AFL.

Adelaide, Port, Giants, GC too

 

[Thetrader15]

Bullshit. If you hate the VFL so much why do you support a club that joined it. Could have followed the WAFL.

You've come into our house you are eating our food living in our bedrooms and complaining the house doesn't have enough bathrooms or parking spots

Problem is you are charging top dollar on the rent for pokey 1BR apartment then changing the rental agreement each week

 

[Darkyprotector]

Surely you'd have to agree though that the fact that if say, Adelaide play Richmond or Essendon in the GF it is unfair that they would have to play what is an away game despite finishing top? Especially considering they're supposedly not good at the MCG.

not really
when you apply for a job you know the conditions

 

[sjohns12]

not really
when you apply for a job you know the conditions

How is that at all relevant?

 

[Underarm]

You mean capacity the same size as MCG.

Would be amusing to see the excuses if the Perth stadium was larger.

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There's plenty of reasons why Perth is a shithole.

 

[Leeda]

its not going anywhere.. it's a sure bet.

 

[SdKfz 181]

You mean capacity the same size as MCG.

Would be amusing to see the excuses if the Perth stadium was larger.

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Its amusing that the capacity will only be 60k..

 

[nuey]

Problem is you are charging top dollar on the rent for pokey 1BR apartment then changing the rental agreement each week

Yet you said you didn't have any pets but last inspection there's a litter tray in the laundry. Plus the rangehood hasn't been cleaned in months. I've probably taken this analogy a bit far...

 

[Thetrader15]

Yet you said you didn't have any pets but last inspection there's a litter tray in the laundry. Plus the rangehood hasn't been cleaned in months. I've probably taken this analogy a bit far...

It hasn't been cleaned because we haven't used it cos you didn't pay the power bill and we have no electricity