jenny61_99
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Loved him as a player, not convinced about him as either the fitness guru or football GM. Don't see any point in crucifying anyone without all the facts.
Injury Brad Crouch out for the year? #@%!
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Mmmmm out of all the scenarios I am not that gullible to believe that one.
Though I understand some love hate relationships do work
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You naysayers.
And how many times do you have to be told Alex Keath’s ankle is a 1-2 week injury? It was 1-2 weeks in Round 1, and it’s still 1-2 weeks, what’s so hard to understand?
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-20/star-crow-faces-extended-layoff-with-groin-pain
Keath rolled his ankle in the JLT Community Series game with Port Adelaide.
He is expected to miss only one week.
"If it was a Sunday game he (Keath) might have got there, but a couple of days short so we will get him right for round two," Burton said.
I get it now. Birdman meant Round 2, 2019.
Keath rolled his ankle in the JLT Community Series game with Port Adelaide.
He is expected to miss only one week.
"If it was a Sunday game he (Keath) might have got there, but a couple of days short so we will get him right for round two," Burton said.
I get it now. Birdman meant Round 2, 2019.
jenny61_99
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Just wanted to point out the obvious... that injuries and the human body in general don't work to timelines. They are ready when they are ready and not a minute before.
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Thanks.
The extended layoffs on a number of players who the club pronounced as having very short-term injuries either brings into question the competency or the honesty of the fitness staff.
We bring one of the most durable players in the history of the game into the club and put him on the sidelines for two months and counting.
Coincidence? Maybe. We’ll see.
Jenny. I respect your posts but you’re blind defence of the “high performance” team is getting ridiculous now.
Saying an ankle injury will be a week or two and it taking 2-3 months is incredibly poor understanding of injury recovery if that’s what the club actually thinks. You could dismiss it for one player with a weird one off injury but it’s a trend across every injury to every player this year. And it happened last year also.
If the club is really that bad at predicting injury recovery times then things are even worse than first though.
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Ok. That must've been after I switched it off. It will be interesting to hear the clubs response.
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How the * am I defending them?
jenny61_99
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I personally don't see why they give time frames at all (because of the fact the body has its own). A mild hamstring can take 2-3 weeks, a serious one much longer. Just list the injury and give no timeframes. The Gibson one is interesting... possibly due to being given a different training load to what he had at North? And I agree. "We'll see" is unfortunately the stance we have to adopt. I hope a full external review is conducted at the end of the year. I understand they have already completed an internal one.
Yeah Alex Keath would need to be a human sensation!
A slight ankle sprain for an athlete that has supposedly a team of professionals looking after his rehabilitation process Should not be a two month injury. People recover from ankle surgeries in two months let alone from a slight ankle sprain. I can understand if 1-2 weeks turns into a 3-4 weeks due to what you are saying. But to have 1-2 week injury turn into an 8 week and counting injury points to two obvious things. It's either that someone is telling some pretty big lies (and it wouldn't be the first time) or that the injury was seriously misdiagnosed and mistreat (given what has gone in the last 12 months, I would not be surprised in the slightest)
Alex Keath is just one example. Sam Gibson was 1-2 weeks in round 1. Still has not returned 8 weeks in. We cannot be human anomaly that every one of our players recover slower than your average human being.
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Because members have a right to know when the players they’ve paid to watch are going to be out there.
jenny61_99
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My hubby got hit by a shopping trolley in the ankle two years ago. Had a slight open wound, but no apparent break. Two years later, xrays, ultrasounds, physios, specialists, the ankle still gives him curry and nobody can pinpoint what the problem is. All I'm saying is that the body is a bit of an enigma. We think we have a handle on something, and something else happens. Like I said in another post, I don't think they should put time frames up. What they absolutely have to do, is get the thing right before they send the player out to play.Yeah Alex Keath would need to be a human sensation!
People recover from ankle surgeries in two months let alone from a slight ankle sprain. I can understand if 1-2 weeks turns into a 3-4 weeks due to what you are saying. But to have 1-2 week injury turn into an 8 week and counting injury points to two obvious things. It's either that someone is telling some pretty big lies (and it wouldn't be the first time) or that the injury was seriously misdiagnosed and mistreat (given what has gone in the last 12 months, I would not be surprised in the slightest)
Alex Keath is just one example. Sam Gibson was 1-2 weeks in round 1. Still has not returned 8 weeks in. We cannot be human anomaly that every one of our players recover slower than your average human being.
Another variable is the willingness of the player to work at rehab.
Tex said the other day rehab is harder than normal training.
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It's the luck of the draw SP. The Club can't possibly guarantee the player YOU want to see play is going to be available. Injury, form, illness..all sorts of things can contribute to them not being available.
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There's always something that stops this club from winning a premiership. There's always something...
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and more often than not it's self inflicted.
2005 - Roo, at the time one of our top 2 players and captain, decides the week before finals it would be a good time to get himself reported in basically a dead rubber game.
2006 - Reports leading up to finals players were pleading with supercoach Craig to lighten the training workload. Limped into finals series.
2012 - Shocking biased umpiring in the PF. No fault of our own. Mind you if we did win the flag and in light of Tippettgate, we may have been the first club in history to have a premiership taken off of it.
2017 - Limped into finals.
2018 - ???
For once wouldn't it be great if we had the best people in place to give us the best chance to win a flag.
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An excellent article on the AFL website explaining why Joe Daniher hasn’t suddenly developed O.P. The former head physio at Geelong stated that 15-20% of all AFL players if scanned will show signs of “osteitis pubis changes and symptoms”. Do they all have O.P? You will find very few players on an AFL injury list with a diagnosis of O.P. This term is usually reserved for players who have longterm groin issues and are unable to play for an extended period. Most of the 15-20% of players who experience groin continue to play or improve sufficiently after a few weeks rehab.
Seedsman struggled for the entire 2017 pre-season and missed the first half of last season. I think some would have moved him from the groin soreness column to O.P. after a couple of months on the sideline. I think Andrew McPherson came to the Crows with O.P. and will hopefully overcome this like The SEED.
When Brad played 20 games last season he had groin soreness not O.P. because he was able to function at a high level despite the soreness. We were hoping to overcome the groin soreness during the pre-season and now he has missed the first 8 games and is unlikely to play for quite a while it seems reasonable to move him into the O.P.
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Look I understand that there are cases like these but they are generally very rare. I just simply do not believe that every one of our players is a slow healer. Can you? Every one of our injuries have taken longer than we initially diagnosed.
They absolutely do need to give them time frames. As someone who pumps thousands of dollars into the cub every single year with my various memberships and sponsorship I absolutely do deserve the right to know how long a player will be sidelined. I don't think its much to ask because god knows, I sure don't get a great deal out of the various financial commitments with the club. The least they can do is treat me with some respect and not insult my intelligence.
The new buzz term in back related glutes!
I am not going to name the current player that I have a pretty close friendship with. He has been one of our very best players this year. Now he has had back related hamstring soreness all season long. Thankfully he has not missed any games yet because he is pretty diligent with his recovery and has been pretty durable throughout his career. He is not the only player that has the same issues. There is a handful of players suffering from the same thing. Tex is one, Sauce is another that has been made somewhat public after the Showdown. That CLEARLY points to there being something seriously wrong with what we are doing but we are more concerned with controlling the message to the masses and inventing new terms to deflect the real issue. Back related glute! Glute awareness! Hamstring awareness! General soreness! Is the "deflective" lingo for hamstring soreness or strains.I am not going to sit here and look for excuses for every one of the injuries that have taken place. It is clear as daylight that the "High Performance Team" has seriously ****ed up this year and that is absolutely unforgivable in what should have been the "window" year. I expect so much better form the self-proclaimed "Best Football Department" in the country. The magnitude and the timing of the mistakes here is absolutely unforgivable. The club know it, that is why they are lying through their teeth about injuries this year. They know it is a massive PR disaster but they are trying to cover their tracks and find ways to soften the message. They are treating us for muppets and to be quite frank it is insulting and disappointing. If you are going to be happy to take my money, then at least have the decency to be honest and upfront with me.
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There was an article a few weeks back about Seedsman. He had had hip surgery a long time ago which resulted in his hips being slightly out of alignment. While at Collingwood and later Adelaide this resulted in groin injuries, and when playing, playing with varying degrees of pain. When this was finally identified, he was placed on a rehab program that involved strengthen specific muscles. Surgery was considered as an option.
This year, according to Seedsman is the first time he can remember in a long time playing essentially pain free.
and its rarely talent on the field..
We should employ someone who can count. I know it is going to ba tough job....especially after 3....
