List Mgmt. Will the Hawks end up landing a big fish? Trade and FA news discussion of Hawthorn targets

[Noel Gallagher]

You seem so certain.
How do you know this ? at this stage

Collingwood have been in his ear for a VERY long time, you can take that to the bank. I don’t know if he has chosen them but my guess is he has. I wouldn’t right off Richmond though.

Seriously Collingwoods midfield is superior to ours and their list is better. If I where Lynch I would toss a coin between Collingwood and Richmond.

 

[wahawk]

Yep. There’s whispers that they could get a pick straight after their first PLUS one at the end of the first round.

So if they finish last, they’ll have Pick 1, then get Pick 2 and 19 as compo.

You just know the AFL will look after them as they did Melbourne with Frawley.

As much as I hate it that the AFL make the rules up as they go, I’d be ok with this as the Suns really need as much help as possible at the moment.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Collingwood have been in his ear for a VERY long time, you can take that to the bank. I don’t know if he has chosen them but my guess is he has. I wouldn’t right off Richmond though.

Seriously Collingwoods midfield is superior to ours and their list is better. If I where Lynch I would toss a coin between Collingwood and Richmond.

So you were just guessing.

 

[tige19]

Collingwood have been in his ear for a VERY long time, you can take that to the bank. I don’t know if he has chosen them but my guess is he has. I wouldn’t right off Richmond though.

Seriously Collingwoods midfield is superior to ours and their list is better. If I where Lynch I would toss a coin between Collingwood and Richmond.

Absolutely no reason why Lynch chooses Collingwood before us, the pies list is in decent shape but they a bunch who are very similar and will be going through a salary squeeze. There's also a factor that he will consider, it's the fact we have Clarko and a proven method of success.

If Collingwood make a play something has to give with Degoey, he is one who on the open market is every bit as valuable:

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Better than pick 3 for Frawley?

Amazing how the AFL can make up compensation as they go along, we get pick 19 for the biggest free agency deal in this history of the sport.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Collingwood have been in his ear for a VERY long time, you can take that to the bank. I don’t know if he has chosen them but my guess is he has. I wouldn’t right off Richmond though.

Seriously Collingwoods midfield is superior to ours and their list is better. If I where Lynch I would toss a coin between Collingwood and Richmond.

Remember when Treloar picked Collingwood because their list was better than Richmond’s. Sound decision making.

 

[Gralin]

Better than pick 3 for Frawley?

Never forget Motlop got the Cats the same pick as Buddy because the AFL knew it qas going to the Suns.

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Absolutely no reason why Lynch chooses Collingwood before us, the pies list is in decent shape but they a bunch who are very similar and will be going through a salary squeeze. There's also a factor that he will consider, it's the fact we have Clarko and a proven method of success.

If Collingwood make a play something has to give with Degoey, he is one who on the open market is every bit as valuable:

Are you serious?? Look I love Clarko, hands down the best coach in the league, but reality is he had a team chock full of genuine a graders and superstars during our glory years.

Since then we have lost frankin, Hodge, Gibson, Mitchell, Lewis, lake, with Roughead a shadow of his glory years. Burgoyne still a gun but this year could be his last.

There is no magic wand to wave, crappy teams have loaded up on the cream of the draft and have overtaken us. We are extremely well coached and well run but equalisation has caught up with us.

Collingwood will not loose de goey or moore. They will sign up Lynch for unders if Richmond can’t persuade him to come across.

If I am wrong than I will never post again on this site - take that to the bank

 

[Gralin]

Define wrong

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Define wrong

Lynch coming to Hawthorn. Don’t get me wrong I would give my left nut for him, he is exactly what we need but it ain’t happening...

 

[Topiary]

Collingwood have been in his ear for a VERY long time, you can take that to the bank. I don’t know if he has chosen them but my guess is he has. I wouldn’t right off Richmond though.

Seriously Collingwoods midfield is superior to ours and their list is better. If I where Lynch I would toss a coin between Collingwood and Richmond.

I do not like posting this stuff BUT I just felt I had to.
Noel, I can assure you we have been in regular contact for 18 MONTHS. His Manager, Paul Connors and Napoleon have a very good relationship as does Nat Young (Mitch Mc Manager). If we land him (I am not saying we have) it will be a project that would have appeared on GW’s whiteboard for two years by November. Please do not think we are not as professional or competent as Collingwood and Richmond. If we really want him we will have a huge go. Have had a huge go, but there are limits and other targets and cost to consider.
I suspect if we do get him it will come out we have had an in principle agreement with him for some time. I stress I cannot confirm that yet and may not, but I don’t want our supporters believing we can’t do it because we are competing against Richmond and Collingwood. Circumstances could well present that our priorities will change. Don’t forget we may change our course or mind as well. Everything I hear confirms we are still in the game. I clearly do not know where on the pecking order, but be assured we are the only one of the three in contention that has already made the necessary room, the other two, particularly Collingwood, will need to jettison to fit him in. I believe that in itself demonstrates the necessary competence.

Finally, I reiterate I have no confirming information re TL but hope we can pull it off.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Are you serious?? Look I love Clarko, hands down the best coach in the league, but reality is he had a team chock full of genuine a graders and superstars during our glory years.

Since then we have lost frankin, Hodge, Gibson, Mitchell, Lewis, lake, with Roughead a shadow of his glory years. Burgoyne still a gun but this year could be his last.

There is no magic wand to wave, crappy teams have loaded up on the cream of the draft and have overtaken us. We are extremely well coached and well run but equalisation has caught up with us.

Collingwood will not loose de goey or moore. They will sign up Lynch for unders if Richmond can’t persuade him to come across.

If I am wrong than I will never post again on this site - take that to the bank

Is this like when you argued that Jordan Kelly was absolutely going to be upgraded to the Senior list, despite how easily it could be seen that he was ordinary?

If only you made the same promise then.

 

[rjslcM]

25 years old.

Lets say its the same money at all three clubs.

Richmond
Hawthorn
Collingwood

All have fairly attractive cultures for a FA to join.

In the context of Lynch's next 6 years what separates these clubs:
1 has a premiership in the last 12 months, looks as solid as ever, and former teammate Prestia.
1 has a proven coach and former teammate O'Meara. Is the coach going to stick around past 2020 though?
1 has a promising list and he could be the catalyst for turning it into a premiership one.

These are factors that come to mind for me. Theres bound to be other factors at play but I could understand why he might pick either 3. Hope he chooses us.

 

[lickmerocks]

And just to add at the coin toss him and roughy shock hands then roughy went back and gave him a tap an the bum. It’s happening gif.

Absolutely no reason why Lynch chooses Collingwood before us, the pies list is in decent shape but they a bunch who are very similar and will be going through a salary squeeze. There's also a factor that he will consider, it's the fact we have Clarko and a proven method of success.

If Collingwood make a play something has to give with Degoey, he is one who on the open market is every bit as valuable:

I listened to Degoeys manager the other day and he said if he receives a godfather offer we need to consider it.

Once he said that I was thinking he is very gettable if a club is prepared to pay well above the odds to get him.

 

[Brishawk]

25 years old.

Lets say its the same money at all three clubs.

Richmond
Hawthorn
Collingwood

All have fairly attractive cultures for a FA to join.

In the context of Lynch's next 6 years what separates these clubs:
1 has a premiership in the last 12 months, looks as solid as ever, and former teammate Prestia.
1 has a proven coach and former teammate O'Meara. Is the coach going to stick around past 2020 though?
1 has a promising list and he could be the catalyst for turning it into a premiership one.

These are factors that come to mind for me. Theres bound to be other factors at play but I could understand why he might pick either 3. Hope he chooses us.

One club has Andrew russel. And lynch has a dodgey knee. You do the math

 

[rjslcM]

One club has Andrew russel. And lynch has a dodgey knee. You do the math

Russel is actually a factor I considered but it seems I've been living under a rock and don't know too much about Lynch's dodgy knee. Whats the go with it?

 

[arupist]

25 years old.

Lets say its the same money at all three clubs.

Richmond
Hawthorn
Collingwood

All have fairly attractive cultures for a FA to join.

In the context of Lynch's next 6 years what separates these clubs:
1 has a premiership in the last 12 months, looks as solid as ever, and former teammate Prestia.
1 has a proven coach and former teammate O'Meara. Is the coach going to stick around past 2020 though?
1 has a promising list and he could be the catalyst for turning it into a premiership one.

These are factors that come to mind for me. Theres bound to be other factors at play but I could understand why he might pick either 3. Hope he chooses us.

I doubt former team mates are a deciding factor. You don't know how close Lynch was to either O'Meara or Prestia. For that matter, mateship persists even if they are at different teams.

I would rather not speculate. Trade week might then be a little more interesting.

 

[Brishawk]

Russel is actually a factor I considered but it seems I've been living under a rock and don't know too much about Lynch's dodgy knee. Whats the go with it?

Playing through a pcl injury I believe.

 

[rjslcM]

I doubt former team mates are a deciding factor. You don't know how close Lynch was to either O'Meara or Prestia. For that matter, mateship persists even if they are at different teams.

I would rather not speculate. Trade week might then be a little more interesting.

You're right, I don't know how close he is with either teammate. But former teammates could definitely be a contributing factor towards a decision where the choices are very similar money. There's people who I have chosen to work with because I know they contribute to an environment where I work best. Ones enthusiasm can be contagious, and you can just gel really well.

That said, Tom may deem the best environment to be one where he has a fresh start away from any GC ties altogether.

Its all speculation, and if you'd rather not speculate, thats fine.

Playing through a pcl injury I believe.

That sounds very Gold Coast

 

[Gralin]

You're right, I don't know how close he is with either teammate. But former teammates could definitely be a contributing factor towards a decision where the choices are very similar money. There's people who I have chosen to work with because I know they contribute to an environment where I work best. Ones enthusiasm can be contagious, and you can just gel really well.

That said, Tom may deem the best environment to be one where he has a fresh start away from any GC ties altogether.

Its all speculation, and if you'd rather not speculate, thats fine.



That sounds very Gold Coast

Rough played with one, Birch did as well, sometimes its just something they manage and play with, sometimes they need a clean up

With minor ones they usually try to avoid surgery

 

[Holy Rioli]

Never forget Motlop got the Cats the same pick as Buddy because the AFL knew it qas going to the Suns.

Which the Suns used on a kid they probably could have picked up in the rookie draft.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Yep. There’s whispers that they could get a pick straight after their first PLUS one at the end of the first round.

So if they finish last, they’ll have Pick 1, then get Pick 2 and 19 as compo.

You just know the AFL will look after them as they did Melbourne with Frawley.

If that's the case they'd be driving him to the airport and making damn sure he gets on the flight.

 

[Samurai Hawk]

25 years old.

Lets say its the same money at all three clubs.

Richmond
Hawthorn
Collingwood

All have fairly attractive cultures for a FA to join.

In the context of Lynch's next 6 years what separates these clubs:
1 has a premiership in the last 12 months, looks as solid as ever, and former teammate Prestia.
1 has a proven coach and former teammate O'Meara. Is the coach going to stick around past 2020 though?
1 has a promising list and he could be the catalyst for turning it into a premiership one.

These are factors that come to mind for me. Theres bound to be other factors at play but I could understand why he might pick either 3. Hope he chooses us.

and one club has a pretty good premiership ratio over the last how many years compared to the other 2 clubs

 

[rjslcM]

and one club has a pretty good premiership ratio over the last how many years compared to the other 2 clubs

Richmond's premiership ratio is better over the last "how many years".

1 for 1. 100%

Ours is 4/10. 40%.

I get what you're saying, but in the context of Tom's next 6 years, do you take data from the last 10 years, or from the last 12 months and what you see now?

 

[Gralin]

Richmond's premiership ratio is better over the last "how many years".

1 for 1. 100%

Ours is 4/10. 40%.

I get what you're saying, but in the context of Tom's next 6 years, do you take data from the last 10 years, or from the last 12 months and what you see now?

Clarko has the best strike rate of any current coach though, if the players think hes extending he's a great chance to snag a couple more before he retires

Hes still the biggest selling point for the club