Opinion Player list management and game plan 2019

[Shaucob_Burjan]

All our inside mids went backwards this season and that includes SPP. If a WA team overpays, sure but I'm almost willing to ignore our inside mids performances this year when it was clearly a system/gameplan issue

 

[Revan11]

DIDnt SPP break the records for both tackles in a game and pressure acts this season? Talk of trading him is crazy. Move on the deadwood older mids first

 

[Jakksynn]

I’d almost be more inclined to trade Wines before i’d Trade SPP. Not sure how popular that opinion is though

 

[scottjr]

SPP dropped twice this and the only thing that saved him being dropped again was we ran out of games. Probably a gun who will play 300 games and on a learning curve but I'd absolutely listen to good offers anyone wants to put out there.

 

[raptalia]

Please no more trading first rounders.

The promising youth cupboard is bare enough as it is.

I know where you are coming from but we have picked up a few spuds with first rounders over the years. At least if you trade for an established player with a first round pick you know what you are getting. If we loose Polec we have to replace him with a running ball carrier immediately so on trading the first rounder we get for him may be necessary. A lot depends on who is in the market place of course.

 

[philthy05]

Y’all do realise c4 only said eastern teams were making inquiries right?

You lot are worse than those doomsday preppers.

 

[raptalia]

Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley says Jared Polec is replaceable if the winger decides to request a trade at the end of the season.

"That's OK, we'll deal with that if Jared decides to move on, he'll move on and we'll find a replacement," Hinkley said.
"We'll get some young players come to the club and we'll find the next young player."

Simple as that, eh Ken ?

When we traded for Polec in 2013 he cost us our first round pick (#14) so replacing him like for like won't come cheap.

 

[Janus]

Our drop off came right around the time we went to Perth and Powell-Pepper probably caught up with his “mates”.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we use any interest in him as a “shape up or ship out” tough love scenario. Because a Powell-Pepper that isn’t attacking the contest and tackling is next to useless.

 

[blaargh]

Our drop off came right around the time we went to Perth and Powell-Pepper probably caught up with his “mates”.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we use any interest in him as a “shape up or ship out” tough love scenario. Because a Powell-Pepper that isn’t attacking the contest and tackling is next to useless.

You’re kidding right? So, he went to Perth, hung out with his mates, ???...???, decides to stop attacking the contest?

I can literally see no possible occurrence that would cause this - and it’s just casting dispersions where they don’t need to be.

SPP had a rough year, but in the grand scheme of things - he was the least of our worries.

 

[elpirate]

Our drop off came right around the time we went to Perth and Powell-Pepper probably caught up with his “mates”.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we use any interest in him as a “shape up or ship out” tough love scenario. Because a Powell-Pepper that isn’t attacking the contest and tackling is next to useless.

Just out of pure curiosity.

Do you, or have you ever held a position where you have had to manage people and hold them to particular accountabilities at all?

If not, have you ever had to lead a team and inspire them to deliver KPI's?

If you don't want to reply fine but I will take that as a no.

I'm keen to understand where your angle comes from.

 

[jdeezy]

Our drop off came right around the time we went to Perth and Powell-Pepper probably caught up with his “mates”.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we use any interest in him as a “shape up or ship out” tough love scenario. Because a Powell-Pepper that isn’t attacking the contest and tackling is next to useless.

Did Pepps invite his mates into the coaches box and they lead the defence defence defence game plan that cost us that game? That's the only way that they couldn't had an effect on that result.

 

[Magus]

No way in hell do I want to lose SPP.

He's doing fine off field and living with Boak. The guy has done well considering the mud that was slung at him earlier in the year.

 

[RossFC]

We turned to crap round 3 vs Brisbane imo.

 

[Janus]

Did Pepps invite his mates into the coaches box and they lead the defence defence defence game plan that cost us that game? That's the only way that they couldn't had an effect on that result.

Our contested possession numbers went to the shit in that game. Our offence is generated from winning the contest.

 

[philthy05]

Our contested possession numbers went to the shit in that game. Our offence is generated from winning the contest.

Carn Janus

Are you seriously saying our ultra defensive game plan which has been acknowledged as such by the coaches that has our key forwards push up to the middle of the ground and clear out our forward fifty so we kick to a stationary or leading small forward like Robbie gray is the fault of our contested ball winning mids?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

SPP has so much upside and room for improvement with his skills and smarts around stoppage a Coach worth his salt would salivate at the prospect.. he's not a guy with huge technical kicking flaws beyond help like Ollie it would be a huge mistake to trade him Hinkley has next year to right the ship or they'll sack him IMO and we may have better influences on our players sooner than we think with new assistants etc. anyway.

 

[Magus]

Our contested possession numbers went to the shit in that game. Our offence is generated from winning the contest.

He also broke the tackle record in round 14. You're looking for excuses again.

 

[Dalfino]

On the talk of trading Wines and SPP:

Our main inside midfielders this year:

Rockliff - started weak due to a preseason interrupted by injury and being played out of position; dropped to the twos to get some ball, came back and played a handful of good games before fading out towards the end of the season.

Wines - pretty much the same form as the past two years. Hasn't improved since 2016, in fact seemed to get worse as the season went on and noticeably crumbled in some big-game moments, especially finishing in front of goal.

Ebert - after what I thought was almost an AA-nomination worthy 2017 as an inside mid where he'd consistently poll 10+ tackle games, he seemed to be in no man's land this year. Never seemed to have a designated position and didn't get a lot of the ball compared with last year.

SPP - after an interrupted start to the year with off-field drama, he came back and killed it for a nice stretch of games before also fading at the end of the year.

Our other inside midfielders:

Robbie - played more forward than mid and was well held this year I thought. When he was mid he seemed to have an impact, can't expect him to win the game off of his own boot every damn week.

Boak - barely got a sniff in the midfield as he was played in that high-forward role which doesn't seem to be the most effective for him. Can't really judge his midfield performance.

Polec and Motlop also spent a little bit of time running through the middle at points, but mainly as rotations or a bit of a change up tactically. My point is that it seems like all of our inside midfielders faded towards the end of the year, and none of them even played particularly well this year. When your entire midfield group, which consists of 3x All-Australians, what should be two future All-Austalians in Wines and SPP, and at the very least a better-than-average player in Ebert, is playing like shit, does that mean all of the players are shit? For me, it's undeniably a coaching issue, and to a lesser extent a fitness department issue, and has been for the past 3 years. Our forward line gets a lot of stick, and deservedly so, but honestly our midfield must be one of the most under-performing groups in the league. Sort the ******* midfield out.

 

[Alyx]

For those in the know: Do we have any genuine interest in Steven May, either this year or the next?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

For those in the know: Do we have any genuine interest in Steven May, either this year or the next?

Perhaps we should I'm not convinced our backline is all it's cracked up to be but jeezus I'm sick of other clubs players though they should be icing on a cake you develop not bloody saviours.

 

[RossFC]

At least in the Magpies we are developing young KPDs like....um.....


........

 

[Janus]

He also broke the tackle record in round 14. You're looking for excuses again.

Round 14 is before Round 17, is it not? So how does what he did against Melbourne in anyway negate the drop off against Fremantle and afterward?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Ploughing into 2nd year players having ups and downs what a joke

 

[Janus]

Carn Janus

Are you seriously saying our ultra defensive game plan which has been acknowledged as such by the coaches that has our key forwards push up to the middle of the ground and clear out our forward fifty so we kick to a stationary or leading small forward like Robbie gray is the fault of our contested ball winning mids?

I’m saying it only looks ultra defensive when we are winning balls that are in dispute and spreading from there.

 

[Kenny Dee]

On SPP I’d love him at crows. Once he learns to steady and kick he’ll be a freak