List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 3

[Connorn99]

Libba is signing a 1 year deal at the dogs. Not coming to us

 

[SaintersUnite]

I've got Sinclair ahead of Lonie, though granted , he needs to recapture a bit of form.
After watching the Pies the other day, I really like having Marshall in the team, he's someone who could potentially get a fist on the ball before Cox marks it.

Only reason I had Lonie ahead of Sincs was for some team balance. But yeah he definitely does need to capture some form. I’d probably drop Long before Lonie though, as much as people would disagree with that decision.

 

[plugger66]

It's called depth and improving the bottom 6.

They play on merit.

If you want to play finals and win a flag you need 30 players that are AFL standard and ready to go.

You don’t recruit very good players from other clubs to replace very good players especially if they have similar ability. And there is no way Steele Ross and libba can play in the same side. We have said all along we need mids that can play elsewhere then we are happy to get a mid of similar ability who can’t play elsewhere. I don’t believe he is the type we would chase.

 

[plugger66]

Because they are two guys who will play regularly with the same deficiencies. You want mids who can spread and apply pressure and win the ball. Ross can easily play on a wing and we can blood Clark off a HBF for more run. Hanners can play off a wing or in the middle. Better options then now which is what you want.

I don’t have your confidence about Ross playing as a sing at all. He doesn’t run with the ball. He is get it and tgen get it off. Hanners is fine. I keep saying that. Libba isn’t one that we need. Apart from jack we don’t have a running mid if all libba Steele and Ross play. We will get heaps of possessions but won’t go forward with pace. Possessions isn’t an issue for us. Running and delivering is

 

[plugger66]

So either this draft is a super draft - like they have called it for 12 months. which means there is plenty of talent in the top 20 or it’s no different to every other year in which case you want to pick at the top end.

We either grab King or potentially Bailey Smith + another.

How do you get Smith with pick 9

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Only reason I had Lonie ahead of Sincs was for some team balance. But yeah he definitely does need to capture some form. I’d probably drop Long before Lonie though, as much as people would disagree with that decision.

Just play whichever is showing the best form prior to the game.

 

[stavro#4]

How do you get Smith with pick 9

Potentially based on rumours of trades etc....

1. Walsh Carlton
2. Lukosius GC
3.Rozee GC
4. Rankine Crows
5. King freo
6. King freo
7. * I don’t know who the dogs/port might take and this is the worry.
8. Smith stkilda

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I don’t have your confidence about Ross playing as a sing at all. He doesn’t run with the ball. He is get it and tgen get it off. Hanners is fine. I keep saying that. Libba isn’t one that we need. Apart from jack we don’t have a running mid if all libba Steele and Ross play. We will get heaps of possessions but won’t go forward with pace. Possessions isn’t an issue for us. Running and delivering is

Last year our players with the most Marks included Montagna , Riewoldt, Roberton. Obviously this season they weren't there and Ross is high up on the list.
I don't think that's helped our fast ball movement out of the backline.

 

[bird_man]

Potentially based on rumours of trades etc....

1. Walsh Carlton
2. Lukosius GC
3.Rozee GC
4. Rankine Crows
5. King freo
6. King freo
7. * I don’t know who the dogs/port might take and this is the worry.
8. Smith stkilda

Cal Twomey had the Dogs taking Smith with pick 6 on the weekend.

And he did not even factor in that Gold Coast will have a compo pick for Lynch.

We'd likely be left with someone like Hately or Caldwell

 

[plugger66]

Potentially based on rumours of trades etc....

1. Walsh Carlton
2. Lukosius GC
3.Rozee GC
4. Rankine Crows
5. King freo
6. King freo
7. * I don’t know who the dogs/port might take and this is the worry.
8. Smith stkilda

And if that happen your second option is?

 

[Simpsons Saint]

Melbourne for all the noise , would be different proposition if they had Kelly.

Everyone wanted Kelly except Paul ( The Messiah ) Roos

Giants & Saints desperately wanted him.

Wrong, Simon Taylor at Melbourne was going to pick Jack Billings at 2. The kid in another system would be freakish.

 

[plugger66]

Wrong, Simon Taylor at Melbourne was going to pick Jack Billings at 2. The kid in another system would be freakish.

That’s guess work. Both points. Certainly the second one

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Potentially based on rumours of trades etc....

1. Walsh Carlton
2. Lukosius GC
3.Rozee GC
4. Rankine Crows
5. King freo
6. King freo
7. * I don’t know who the dogs/port might take and this is the worry.
8. Smith stkilda

Smith is exactly what we need and we have a chance to get him. Unless we are getting an established star with his prime ahead of him we have to hold onto our first pick and take Smith.

 

[Pardon me]

Smith is exactly what we need and we have a chance to get him. Unless we are getting an established star with his prime ahead of him we have to hold onto our first pick and take Smith.

Do we still pick Smith if we keep 3?

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Do we still pick Smith if we keep 3?

Absolutely. He's my first pick as Stephenson was last year. We need players who can win the ball, break the lines and hurt the opposition

 

[Pardon me]

Absolutely. He's my first pick as Stephenson was last year. We need players who can win the ball, break the lines and hurt the opposition

Thanks MSG - I don't follow the under 18 comp or the VFL so I get all of my news and info from guys like yourself that do.
Be interesting to see who we actually snag in the draft this year.

 

[Therealsaint]

I don’t think we touch Rankine. Gut feel

Rankine or smith,its a no brainer,got be buggered why we wouldn't if we still had pick

 

[andolate]

Only reason I had Lonie ahead of Sincs was for some team balance. But yeah he definitely does need to capture some form. I’d probably drop Long before Lonie though, as much as people would disagree with that decision.

No way!

Long and Lonie need games to build confidence and believe. They also happen to have natural talent. Combine confidence and talent and you add some we are missing

 

[SAIINT]

Trading out of the top 5 for multiple lower picks in almost any year is just plain dumb. Trading out is most likely to net us more B graders, we have PLENTY of them. We need stars, yes occasionally a Cripps is picked up at a lower pick but we are definitely more likely to get a real star from the top 5 kids (granted our strike rate recently hasn’t been great!). Would Richmond or dogs have won the flag if they traded out dusty or bont? Doubt it.

Dumb dumb dumb.

 

[bennymc7]

If we're going to the draft...

Do Not trade down.

If we're on trading for players trade down.

Simples

 

[bergholt]

Didn’t they? I remember him playing football the majority of this year!

So did Hanners but he clearly wasn't fit enough to play his best.

 

[Spider Eater]

And according to the experts , Bailey Smith can play on the half back flank which will excite Richo.


Go Saints

Well... it is all part of the plan.

 

[maanco]

Lycett's hitouts to advantage last 3 weeks - 1, 1, 3.

Therefor a good discussion would be a Stanley vs Marshall vs Lycett debate

Where can i see the hitouts to advantage stats?

 

[bird_man]

I'm yet to see anyone have Bailey Smith ranked outside the top 7. Some even have him rated at 2. If we were to trade down, I think it would end up looking close to this.

Carl - Walsh
GC - Lukosius
GC - Rozee (PP)
Adel - Rankine
Syd - Blakey (academy)
Freo - King
Freo - King
WB - Smith
St K - Hately

 

[maanco]

Whats this about Us trading our first pick. what do we get in return?