Autopsy Swans lose to Fremantle by 1 point - Round 18

[The King!]

lloyd gets a stat for the kick in when he steps out of the square or handballs to a team mate


a normal old kick in is not one

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Stoddart was hardly sighted.

Who?

 

[The King!]

id like to know how rose gets dropped considering some of the shitful form players out there

 

[RW]

I hope Jones stays after tonight.

 

[DobmusEdge]

yep because he is contracted he deserves a shot in the neafl

im not sure i would have given the extension out, wasn't that impressed

That extension made no sense


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[The King!]

Stoddart was hardly sighted.

where was he playing, young kids seem to be told to drift half back/wing , or out of the way?

 

[The King!]

I hope Jones stays after tonight.

he is unpopular on swans twitter for some reason

 

[The King!]

That extension made no sense


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bird in the hand i guess

 

[Swan4Life]

Lloyd is a good player for us.

You really think so?

How many of his 42 touches were the catalyst for a score? Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

id like to know how rose gets dropped considering some of the s**tful form players out there

This!

 

[Mick Oxlong]

No Rose, no Sydney...prove me wrong!

 

[Olian]

You really think so?

How many of his 42 touches were the catalyst for a score? Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

He had 6 score involvements a team high (equal with Reid and Papley).

 

[mikey_san]

he gets it so often is the issue, because he slows and goes backwards or wide , puts team mates under the pump

Not sure I agree with that last bit usually. We had a lot of people doing that today though, so he may of been one.
Usually he hits targets and yes, changes the tempo sometimes by playing it safe. He cops a bit too much for that IMO. Half the time he'd be kicking it forward to nobody as Horse's forward like are all scrambling back from the defensive 50. Other times he's probably reading we need a breather, or to take back a bit of control in the game. Sometimes, yes sure, he doesn't read it too. But it seems people assume the later cause for every example. I just don't think it's the case.

 

[The King!]

He had 6 score involvements a team high (equal with Reid and Papley).

he can get that by handballing in the back 50 under 0 pressure if it leads to a goal

 

[mikey_san]

You really think so?

How many of his 42 touches were the catalyst for a score? Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

How many goals did Papley save via intercept marking in the defensive 50?

 

[scaryness]

Well when I started a thread on said spud a few years back pointing out how criminally overrated he was I was abused and ridiculed to the point that I thought I was Goodseys soul mate.

But hey, what the hell would I know. He is a Supercoach star after alll...

He has only been mediocre the last two seasons imo. 14-15 he was developing well and was our best user going inside 50, 16-17 he was moved to defence and was way better than what he is currently showing. The only reason I am pissed off with him at all is because he won a B&F for his chipping playstyle, which was a bad call, a reflection of the coaching staff and what they like to see, and encourages that playstyle even more.

 

[The King!]

Not sure I agree with that last bit usually. We had a lot of people doing that today though, so he may of been one.
Usually he hits targets and yes, changes the tempo sometimes by playing it safe. He cops a bit too much for that IMO. Half the time he'd be kicking it forward to nobody as Horse's forward like are all scrambling back from the defensive 50. Other times he's probably reading we need a breather, or to take back a bit of control in the game. Sometimes, yes sure, he doesn't read it too. But it seems people assume the later cause for every example. I just don't think it's the case.

i think lloyd is a good player, i just think his current role adds nothing, it doesnt always subtract from the team, it was poor tonight imo,

but he does play too safe, but he is left out the back in a role that has no real impact

opposition coaches don't care imo if lloyd has 50 touches, it has no impact on anything

he could move roles and have a greater impact

he won the best and fairst in this bs outside nothing role and got a 4 year deal, i just dont get it

I'd rather pay jones and others any day of the week in the current set up

 

[mikey_san]

where was he playing, young kids seem to be told to drift half back/wing , or out of the way?

And our senior guys often look straight past them when assessing options - which drives me nuts when they make the effort to get in position for easy over the top handballs and kicks.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He had 6 score involvements a team high (equal with Reid and Papley).

And managed to lose the game by missing a shot from 20m out right in front...

Overrated

 

[mikey_san]

i think lloyd is a good player, i just think his current role adds nothing, it doesnt always subtract from the team, it was poor tonight imo,

but he does play too safe, but he is left out the back in a role that has no real impact

opposition coaches don't care imo if lloyd has 50 touches, it has no impact on anything

he could move roles and have a greater impact

he won the best and fairst in this bs outside nothing role and got a 4 year deal, i just dont get it

I'd rather pay jones and others any day of the week in the current set up

I hope Jones stays, but he must be counting on (or already have) a good offer from down South. Lets hope he just wants us to match it.

 

[The King!]

longmire back on the runner being an issue with a young side

 

[Wolfgang West]

Hayward is so out of sorts its not funny that free he gave away in the last minute was under 12's stuff.

Terrible.

 

[Shiv]

Wear longer studs.

Great effort and lots of positive signs. Really enjoyed watching that game. Feel like a bigger ground suits our guys.

Onwards and upwards! Will be fun to see continued improvement in the younger player like COR, Blakey etc. Would love to see Mills playing in the mids.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

longmire back on the runner being an issue with a young side

Anything to avoid bagging his gameplan or lack of

 

[Olian]

And managed to lose the game by missing a shot from 20m out right in front...

Overrated

Fair enough if you want to pick one moment from the game that is the defining moment. Assume those other missed chances were just precursors and didn’t count. However I don’t think anyone has ever rated Lloyd as a great goal kicker.