NMFC Board Elections

[Gasometer]

...and Alt Accounts.

I am sure they exist but I pity those that have the time to waste running multiple accounts.

 

[Passmore]

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Sweet. That was easy.

 

[gokangas]

Is the nominations committee still in existence? The same one that apparently decides who is eligible to run?
Apologies if this has been answered already.

Yep - Paul said his nomination was accepted without a formal interview.

 

[gokangas]

Imma come straight out and say that someone who on one hands talks about "media" being a strong suit who doesn't have any social media activity, well, himmmmm.

Good on him for having a dip though.

I think he limits himself to professional groups which I suppose fits with his business profile. I do a fair bit of PR and marketing and am not an expert user of Twitter, Facebook etc. But doesn't mean I ignore them. I would be happy to see a non board annointed candidate get up but I also wonder how effective they can be. Might be worth the risk.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yep - Paul said his nomination was accepted without a formal interview.

Odd.

Aren't they going to count the votes?

 

[gokangas]

Odd.

Aren't they going to count the votes?

Not sure how that works tbh. I asked him if he was interviewed by the culling bloke and he said no.

 

[Del191229]

As a 57 year old - and I am not saying that’s everyone in this age group - it’s a preference at a personal level, surely?

Sure. I'm not on Facebook either.

But I have been, and I know how it works, and you can't say you know how "media" works unless you have know social well.

As I said, he'd be a serviceable board member but I don't see what specialised experience or skill he brings.

 

[Val Keating]

Sure. I'm not on Facebook either.

But I have been, and I know how it works, and you can't say you know how "media" works unless you have know social well.

As I said, he'd be a serviceable board member but I don't see what specialised experience or skill he brings.

Especially as traditional media is dying and is being replaced with social media.

 

[big_e]

Imma come straight out and say that someone who on one hands talks about "media" being a strong suit who doesn't have any social media activity, well, himmmmm.

Good on him for having a dip though.

Media is one area we have covered well anyway, with Laycock and Buckley. Presume that's why Brian Walsh's replacement wasn't a like for like.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Okay, hypothetical question.



If the members supported a majority vote of nominees Ben, Glenn & Paul, could the board just appoint Sonja (or anyone else) anyway? Limerick?

 

[gokangas]

Okay, hypothetical question.

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If the members supported a majority vote of nominees Ben, Glenn & Paul, could the board just appoint Sonja (or anyone else) anyway? Limerick?

Would probably defeat the purpose of an election. You lost the member vote so we will put you on anyway. Not saying it couldn't happen, but wouldn't pass the pub test.

 

[Snake_Baker]

.......... but wouldn't pass the pub test.

The NMFC board's whims only requires the passing of the latte test.

 

[gokangas]

The NMFC board's whims only requires the passing of the latte test.

An overpriced one at that if the cart at Arden St is a guide.

 

[Snake_Baker]

An overpriced one at that if the cart at Arden St is a guide.

Hey, I'll vote for whoever states they will remove the ****ing thing!

 

[gokangas]

Hey, I'll vote for whoever states they will remove the ******* thing!

Or offers coffee at $2 a latte for members.

 

[desie]

Tend to agree. And I don't often come on here and laud what Tef has said, but credit to him, I reckon he had Paul pegged pretty quickly. I have never witnessed someone use so many words to say virtually nothing. I can see why the board has let him run. They want to be seen as allowing outsiders to run but are probably quite content in the knowledge that this guy is not going get voted in. And even if he by some miracle does, he won't be a 'disruptive' force.

Given the spotlight that was shone on the 'process' last year I suspect there's a kernel of truth to this. I'm not sure how many candidatures were culled this time around but no doubt the club would have been alive to the potential criticism if nobody made it through the star chamber again.

They'll now feel like they can point to Paul appearing on the ballot as proof that it's not a closed shop.

 

[Paul Crapper]

Given the spotlight that was shone on the 'process' last year I suspect there's a kernel of truth to this. I'm not sure how many candidatures were culled this time around but no doubt the club would have been alive to the potential criticism if nobody made it through the star chamber again.

They'll now feel like they can point to Paul appearing on the ballot as proof that it's not a closed shop.

I will indeed be a disruptive force as I will force the Board to have open discussions with members on contentious issues.

Over twenty years as a Director and I have never subscribed to “group think” and never will.

As I eluded to yesterday, if I get elected to represent the members and I am prevented from doing that I will get off....

 

[Paul Crapper]

Okay, hypothetical question.

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If the members supported a majority vote of nominees Ben, Glenn & Paul, could the board just appoint Sonja (or anyone else) anyway? Limerick?

I asked the question to the independent nominations committee, that as the constitution can have up to 12 Board members, would they just consider an increase to 7 rather than having a vote. I was told that the Chairman will invite whoever he likes onto the Board, he doesn’t need a vote from members to decide that.

 

[Paul Crapper]

I think he limits himself to professional groups which I suppose fits with his business profile. I do a fair bit of PR and marketing and am not an expert user of Twitter, Facebook etc. But doesn't mean I ignore them. I would be happy to see a non board annointed candidate get up but I also wonder how effective they can be. Might be worth the risk.

I use Twitter and Facebook for my business media, I just don’t use them for personal reasons due to the abuse and bigotry we see towards people. As a strong proponent of mental health and well being, I believe social media at a very personal level can be problematic.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I asked the question to the independent nominations committee, that as the constitution can have up to 12 Board members, would they just consider an increase to 7 rather than having a vote. I was told that the Chairman will invite whoever he likes onto the Board, he doesn’t need a vote from members to decide that.

Unbelievable.

Sorta makes the idea of an election a sham, doesn't it?

Members have the power to include, but not to preclude.

 

[Luke72]

I asked the question to the independent nominations committee, that as the constitution can have up to 12 Board members, would they just consider an increase to 7 rather than having a vote. I was told that the Chairman will invite whoever he likes onto the Board, he doesn’t need a vote from members to decide that.

Not saying they didn’t say it but that is ridiculous.

 

[Paul Crapper]

Not saying they didn’t say it but that is ridiculous.

Indeed it is and it clearly reflects the concerns of many of the members of this Forum. One way to stop that approach is to get a member advocate on the Board.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Not saying they didn’t say it but that is ridiculous.

It's actually potentially dangerous.

Hypothetical:

What if a pro-relocation board member lucked in to the chairman position? They could stack the numbers by personal choice.

 

[Paul Crapper]

Indeed it is and it clearly reflects the concerns of many of the members of this Forum. One way to stop that approach is to get a member advocate on the Board.

I hear a recent addition to the Board previously frequented BigFooty. Then once on the Board they stopped.

That won’t be the case with me. Seems this forum would be an outstanding channel for me to connect to the rank and file members and supporters to listen to their issues, concerns and speak to how I will follow up.

 

[Grogg]

It's actually potentially dangerous.

Hypothetical:

What if a pro-relocation board member lucked in to the chairman position? They could stack the numbers by personal choice.

Co location is still the preferred model, imo.

Somebody mentioned earlier about having a strategy to exit Tasmania. I would say to that "there isn't one & there won't be one".

And people wonder why we can't get a crowd at home, well........