Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 12: This thread it’s going to disappear; One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear

[ShanDog]

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Thanks.

 

[Crankitup]

Unfortunately Biden’s record with black Americans is very poor. I’d still vote for him so as to get rid of the swindler, and start to reset the country, but I’m not a black American.

Black Americans are in an abusive relationship with the Democratic party | Derecka Purnell

An offensive comment by the Democratic presidential candidate is a reminder that black people – all people – deserve better than Joe Biden

www.theguardian.com

America really lost the chance for a truly reforming leadership when Sanders pulled out. They are phucced, frankly.

Will be interesting to see the new poll numbers after Biden's latest foot-in-mouth moment.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

It's just as dumb as Trump saying any Jew voting against the GOP is a traitor to Israel

 

[yebiga]

Everyone should remember that when you are guilty of something: accuse your opponent of the same thing before they accuse you. That's offence Baby!

But it's a Slam dunk for Trump - Ukrainegate in the toilet with the pee-pee dossier and Russiagate.

Biden is a dead candidate walking

 

[PCSY]

Been used for Covid-19 for 50 years, has it?

Are you aware of the possibility that certain drugs that treat certain illnesses are also dangerous, even fatal, to take in the absence of said illnesses? Because your post suggests you're not actually aware of this fact (unlike most adults).

You people don't realise how stupid you look when you keep twisting facts to support your case.

Yeah, I’ll defer to a doctor who prescribed the drug rather than a one eyed numpty thanks.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Yeah, I’ll defer to a doctor who prescribed the drug rather than a one eyed numpty thanks.

The osteopath who was bullied? Ok. Very Trumpite of you to be so gullible.

 

[HairyO]

You are deplorable.

So we ruin the globe and create far more issues long term.

Are the Swedes deplorable?

 

[Royces Hart]

Yeah, I’ll defer to a doctor who prescribed the drug rather than a one eyed numpty thanks.

Was it the Candy Man who prescribed it?

Jackson Reportedly Known as 'Candy Man,' Democrat Says

Ronny Jackson's nomination to head the VA has become engulfed in controversy.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Satan]

Was it the Candy Man who prescribed it?

Jackson Reportedly Known as 'Candy Man,' Democrat Says

Ronny Jackson's nomination to head the VA has become engulfed in controversy.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Satan]

Any theories on why he'd say it then ?.......

Maybe the judge knows the constitution unlike Trump?

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

This is just waffle. Nowhere close to answering the question.

So can you cite the study of taking it as a preventative drug? Not as a cure for those that have acute Covid-19?

You can only quote from recognised studies and this one suggests care should be taken.
To my knowledge there is no definitive study of it as a prevention to CV19, happy to be corrected.
So if there is no study or evidence of its efficacy as a prevention then surely care needs to be taken until such studies produce results and recommendations?

 

[Satan]

You reckon? The questions arising are only just beginning ... .

Nice full toss to the legside bowled to her by Trumps new favourite network

 

[LuvtheKangas]

So we ruin the globe and create far more issues long term.

Are the Swedes deplorable?

Well, the Swedes have the highest per capita death rate, and they haven't looked after their elderly, who are the people who built their country and gave them the high living standard that they have come to expect. The selfishness of younger Swedes is deplorable, and yours is equally so.

It's obvious that you don't give a s**t about older people, as protecting them is standing in the way of you being able to go on with your comfortable salary and social life. It's the height of selfishness and hypocrisy to ignore sacrifices made by previous generations for the well being of society, but then not be willing to make a limited but necessary sacrifice yourself.

 

[Deaneus!]

Is Trump standing like a Centaur a good or bad thing.

Lol.

A bad thing

Your only reason for being anti-HXCQ is Trump touted it.

True, because as noted previously I'm Pro-death where the Trumps are concerned

Music to the ears of those of the rich white Christian cohort who see themselves as the most discriminated-against group of all.

This cracked me up... sound up and enjoy

Hey, it was only The Lancet.

WTF would they know?

 

[yebiga]

Well, the Swedes have the highest per capita death rate, and they haven't looked after their elderly, who are the people who built their country and gave them the high living standard that they have come to expect. The selfishness of younger Swedes is deplorable, and yours is equally so.

It's obvious that you don't give a s**t about older people, as protecting them is standing in the way of you being able to go on with your comfortable salary and social life. It's the height of selfishness and hypocrisy to ignore sacrifices made by previous generations for the well being of society, but then not be willing to make a limited but necessary sacrifice yourself.

Of course, you know this isn't true but as is common nowadays if you repeat a lie often enough people start to believe it. The desperation to lie and twist the facts about Sweden are in poker terms - a tell. It tells you that fundamentally everyone knows this lockdown was the mother of all mistakes.

SEE BELOW - AS if you didn't know - Sweden has fewer deaths than many of the hard-hit European neighbors and more than some of their Scandinavian neighbors. In short, there is no evidence the distancing achieved anything at all to quell the viral spread.

The Swedish have minimized damage to their economy, minimized the introduction of draconian laws, minimized suicides, alienation, and associated mental health issues which all becoming more recognized as the dark side of social distancing. The Swedish have continued to visit their doctors and run their health systems.

While every country coming out of their distancing policies must be concerned about 2nd -3rd waves, the Swedish don't have that fear.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

 

[NSWCROW]

It's just as dumb as Trump saying any Jew voting against the GOP is a traitor to Israel

Or saying he'd override the Governors about opening the churches when he has no authority to do such a thing.


Seriously , what a *******.

 

[NSWCROW]

This cracked me up... sound up and enjoy

Bwahahahaha my fave part is where she shrieked in pain

 

[Crankitup]

Not all 96000 were given the drug.
Those that were given the drug showed a 35% higher mortality rate.
Assuming all 96000 were in similar levels of distress that’s a significant result and solid reason to slow the f*** down in sprouting it I’d have thought

Big assumption I would've thought. Wouldn't they have chosen the "what have we got to lose" cases?

Interesting Declaration of Interests panel at the bottom of that study BTW.

Just looking at the lead author it makes for interesting reading. A list of drug and vaccine companies that would have no interest in advancing the case for an off-patent drug (HCQ) as opposed to a new drug or vaccine. Especially Janssen who are working on a vaccine for Covid-19.

MRM reports personal fees from Abbott, Medtronic, Janssen, Mesoblast, Portola, Bayer, Baim Institute for Clinical Research, NupulseCV, FineHeart, Leviticus, Roivant, and Triple Gene.

Janssen has a history of putting profits before people.

Juries in several US states have found that Janssen Pharmaceutical and its parent company Johnson & Johnson deceptively promoted the antipsychotic drug Risperdal (risperidone). By 2012, four states had been awarded damages, including Louisiana ($258 million in 2010), South Carolina ($327 million in 2011), Texas ($158 million in 2012), and most notably Arkansas ($1.2 billion in 2012) - whose Attorney General stated: “These two companies put profits before people, and they are rightfully being held responsible for their actions".[18]

In a related issue, Risperdal sales practices resulted in a 2012 provisional settlement totaling $2.3 billion.[19] The United States Department of Justice began investigating Risperdal sales practices in 2004, and in 2010 joined a whistleblowers suit alleging bribes paid to Omnicare, the largest company supplying pharmaceutical drugs to nursing homes.[20][21] The allegations include that Johnson & Johnson and Janssen were warned by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) not to promote Risperdal as effective and safe for elderly patients when in fact it is associated with early death, but they did so; and that they in fact bribed Omnicare pharmacists tens of millions of dollars to promote the drug to care home physicians for this unapproved use. A settlement was provisionally agreed with Johnson & Johnson of around $2.2 billion for this and related allegations, with Omnicare having already settled for around $100 million.[19] Former head of sales and president of Janssen, Alex Gorsky, who the Dept of Justice say “was actively involved” in the fraud, nevertheless became the new CEO of Johnson & Johnson in 2012.[22]

Janssen Pharmaceuticals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[romeohwho]

Will be interesting to see the new poll numbers after Biden's latest foot-in-mouth moment.

Would have been good to hear more from this republican senator during the pandemic about the mistakes his boss Trump has made, that have meant the African American community is facing the most alarming damage from Covid 19. ( dying at 3 times the rate of white people-the stuff Biden was rather ineptly referencing)

 

[madmug]

Bwahahahaha my fave part is where she shrieked in pain

If it was an African-American that 'pop' would have been from a 44 magnum to the head & come a lot earlier on in the piece.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Of course, you know this isn't true but as is common nowadays if you repeat a lie often enough people start to believe it. The desperation to lie and twist the facts about Sweden are in poker terms - a tell. It tells you that fundamentally everyone knows this lockdown was the mother of all mistakes.

SEE BELOW - AS if you didn't know - Sweden has fewer deaths than many of the hard-hit European neighbors and more than some of their Scandinavian neighbors. In short, there is no evidence the distancing achieved anything at all to quell the viral spread.

The Swedish have minimized damage to their economy, minimized the introduction of draconian laws, minimized suicides, alienation, and associated mental health issues which all becoming more recognized as the dark side of social distancing. The Swedish have continued to visit their doctors and run their health systems.

While every country coming out of their distancing policies must be concerned about 2nd -3rd waves, the Swedish don't have that fear.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

OK, Sweden had the highest death rate in the world in the most recently-counted 7 day period.

They are sixth on the list you provided (not under dispute) but moving in an upward direction. Of the five above Sweden: Spain, Italy and UK messed up their response in the same way as the US, whilst Belgium (in particular) and France have different and very conservative Covid recording systems. See: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/why-belgium-has-a-high-number-of-coronavirus-deaths/12259032

The second half of your post is unsupportable self-serving speculation. Their economy has not escaped damage despite staying open and it's a growing tactic of those who oppose lockdown for selfish reasons to overplay the mental health aspect. There is no published evidence of increased suicides.

 

[Crankitup]

Would have been good to hear more from this republican senator during the pandemic about the mistakes his boss Trump has made, that have meant the African American community is facing the most alarming damage from Covid 19. ( dying at 3 times the rate of white people-the stuff Biden was rather ineptly referencing)

What was his biggest mistake do you think?

I was critical weeks ago of his administration's decision to send 18 tons worth of masks, gowns and ventilators to China early in February when cases were starting to appear in the U.S. It certainly helped China deal with and get on top of their situation but led to a shortage in the US which was further exacerbated by theft of medical supplies from hospitals.

OTOH he closed the border with China way sooner than the Democrats would have considering how many of them (including Biden) criticised the decision at the time. Death toll would probably be 150,000 by now had they been in control.


#7,853

 

[60 Yards Out]

A bad thing





True, because as noted previously I'm Pro-death where the Trumps are concerned



This cracked me up... sound up and enjoy





WTF would they know?

Some of the behavioural symptoms seem to fit.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/frontotemporal-dementia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354737

 

[PCSY]

Was it the Candy Man who prescribed it?

Jackson Reportedly Known as 'Candy Man,' Democrat Says

Ronny Jackson's nomination to head the VA has become engulfed in controversy.

www.newsweek.com

Hey, it might have been, I don't know. Do you?

The osteopath who was bullied? Ok. Very Trumpite of you to be so gullible.

Was it that practitioner who wrote the prescription?

 

[PCSY]

Everyone should remember that when you are guilty of something: accuse your opponent of the same thing before they accuse you. That's offence Baby!

But it's a Slam dunk for Trump - Ukrainegate in the toilet with the pee-pee dossier and Russiagate.

Biden is a dead candidate walking

You're not sounding black at all.

 

[romeohwho]

What was his biggest mistake do you think?

I was critical weeks ago of his administration's decision to send 18 tons worth of masks, gowns and ventilators to China early in February when cases were starting to appear in the U.S. It certainly helped China deal with and get on top of their situation but led to a shortage in the US which was further exacerbated by theft of medical supplies from hospitals.

OTOH he closed the border with China way sooner than the Democrats would have considering how many of them (including Biden) criticised the decision at the time. Death toll would probably be 150,000 by now had they been in control.


#7,853


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Trump dismantled at least 4 frontline, important pandemic/medical organisations in the past few years leaving them under-funded, under- staffed and under-resourced. So not nearly as well placed as they should have been even before the pandemic hit.
Then he was too slow to respond when it did arrive, not taking it seriously, so they have lacked resources because he didn’t order equipment in time, already under equipped due to sloppiness re contracts since 2018, seriously under testing and under tracing, promoting unproven or unwise treatments ( hydroxy and dettol), fought against lockdowns ( the one thing that actually works), encouraged illegal rallies (liberate Michigan-gatherings which by the way have now become sources of virus spreading), created situations whereby states are bidding against each other for equipment, not quarantining returning travellers,... and it goes on.
Your unprovable claim re Democrats sounds like sour grapes, as is your baseless swipe at Pelosi- feb 24th- everyone was still carrying on as usual. Even here, I was over in Adelaide the weekend of March 14th- at a festival- teeming with people carrying on as per usual. If she’d been doing it on March 24th you might have a gripe, otherwise forget it. Just silly and pretty tedious to keep repeating this incorrect claim.