Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 4

[owen87]

A case doesn't mean you are infectious or can pass it on, the PCR test can't tell you that.

A new case may be a dead piece of RNA from months ago picked up by the PCR test

If the magnification or cycles is dialled down on the PCR test you get less 'cases' if it is dialled up you get many more.

Many medical professionals recommend 30 cycles or so, but my guess is labs in Australia and other countries use 40 plus cycles which is why there are so many false negatives and not worth the paper the result is printed on, of course only cynics would suggest labs use that amount of cycles to keep the $$ rolling in, or Governments request it to keep the fear up, i wonder if one journo at one press conference has asked Sutton or Andrews or Scomo or anyone what amount of cycles they use at what labs in OZ.

My bet is zero.

You’ve escaped again!

I believe https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coronavirus.1237241 was the thread you were looking for

 

[Hawk Dork]

A case doesn't mean you are infectious or can pass it on, the PCR test can't tell you that.

A new case may be a dead piece of RNA from months ago picked up by the PCR test

If the magnification or cycles is dialled down on the PCR test you get less 'cases' if it is dialled up you get many more.

Many medical professionals recommend 30 cycles or so, but my guess is labs in Australia and other countries use 40 plus cycles which is why there are so many false negatives and not worth the paper the result is printed on, of course only cynics would suggest labs use that amount of cycles to keep the $$ rolling in, or Governments request it to keep the fear up, i wonder if one journo at one press conference has asked Sutton or Andrews or Scomo or anyone what amount of cycles they use at what labs in OZ.

My bet is zero.

So governments want to keep the fear up to destroy the economy and have people unemployed so they vote them out?

yer makes sense

 

[deskc]

So governments want to keep the fear up to destroy the economy and have people unemployed so they vote them out?

yer makes sense

It doesn't matter as has been reported the liberal opposition are so bad andrews could do anything and get re elected

 

[PP34]

Melbourne is almost out of lockdown. It's time to trust Melburnians to make their own COVID-safe decisions

Melbourne could be out of lockdown within a week, if COVID-19 case numbers continue their current trend. But blanket rules such as the new 25km travel radius risk unnecessarily burdening the public.

t.co

 

[Hawk Dork]

It doesn't matter as has been reported the liberal opposition are so bad andrews could do anything and get re elected

This will dent him a little
But lets see how the rebuild goes that will be the true test

 

[owen87]

Melbourne is almost out of lockdown. It's time to trust Melburnians to make their own COVID-safe decisions

Melbourne could be out of lockdown within a week, if COVID-19 case numbers continue their current trend. But blanket rules such as the new 25km travel radius risk unnecessarily burdening the public.

t.co

I’m assuming the author lives in metro Melbourne, because I’m fairly certain regional Victoria are quite happy being separated from the metro region and subsequently enjoying much more freedom.

 

[Les Malone]

You’ve escaped again!

I believe https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coronavirus.1237241 was the thread you were looking for

So as usual - nothing

 

[owen87]

So as usual - nothing

I particularly enjoy how you’ve now become a self-assessed expert on PCR testing.

Is that a YouTube educated PhD?

 

[PP34]

I’m assuming the author lives in metro Melbourne, because I’m fairly certain regional Victoria are quite happy being separated from the metro region and subsequently enjoying much more freedom.

It’s amazing how we’ve created all these barriers between people who previously had no issues with one another with seemingly no way to get out of them.

The media and government have done a great job in ensuring metropolitan Victorians won’t be wanted anywhere for ages to come.

 

[Les Malone]

I particularly enjoy how you’ve now become a self-assessed expert on PCR testing.

Is that a YouTube educated PhD?

I particularity enjoy how you don't and can't dispute anything.

 

[owen87]

It’s amazing how we’ve created all these barriers between people who previously had no issues with one another with seemingly no way to get out of them.

The media and government have done a great job in ensuring metropolitan Victorians won’t be wanted anywhere for ages to come.

Well, previously we didn’t have worldwide closed or restricted borders. Now I can’t jump on a flight to China freely.

 

[owen87]

I particularity enjoy how you don't and can't dispute anything.

You say that as though you’re saying anything worth disputing, let alone that I’d want to spend my time disputing it even if you were.

 

[PP34]

Well, previously we didn’t have worldwide closed or restricted borders. Now I can’t jump on a flight to China freely.

That’s different though.

We had regional Victorians losing their minds at metro Victorians the other day because some truck driver committed the horrific crime of doing his job in their town and just having to have corona. Now yes he wasn’t helpful to contact tracers but that wasn’t what their anger was about.

 

[owen87]

That’s different though.

We had regional Victorians losing their minds at metro Victorians the other day because some truck driver committed the horrific crime of doing his job in their town and just having to have corona. Now yes he wasn’t helpful to contact tracers but that wasn’t what their anger was about.

Their anger was about someone who wasn’t a local, risking their ability to live their lives.

Sounds reasonable enough to me.

I’ve got family in regional Victoria, I wouldn’t want to be the one jeopardising their freedoms doing something selfish.

 

[Hawk Dork]

That’s different though.

We had regional Victorians losing their minds at metro Victorians the other day because some truck driver committed the horrific crime of doing his job in their town and just having to have corona. Now yes he wasn’t helpful to contact tracers but that wasn’t what their anger was about.

Part of his allowed activities to do his job didnt include a lot of the things he did that spread it

 

[craigos]

As a "non-native" Melbourne person I can confirm the "we don't want you here" stigma, jokingly, or not, is well and truly a thing.

 

[Turnover]

Didn't spend a winter locked up inside getting ripped just so my mates can look at my arms in the loungeroom.

Sure you did.

 

[PP34]

Their anger was about someone who wasn’t a local, risking their ability to live their lives.

Sounds reasonable enough to me.

I’ve got family in regional Victoria, I wouldn’t want to be the one jeopardising their freedoms doing something selfish.

I’m sure they’ve all been so perfect since March

 

[Cleavy]

When do you think they'll reopen?

presumably when we get to the last step to move to "COVID normal"

 

[craigos]

Sure you did.

Don't be jealous bruv, happy to send a DM of the damage if you like

 

[hebog]

Pretty sure 100 people will have the same idea
- can’t drink outside
- toilets are gonna be cooked
- streaming is gonna suck
- prey it doesn’t rain

I’m glad you’re amped for this but genuinely what difference would it make if you had 10 mates sitting on a picnic blanket eating from the same bowl of chips to sitting around a couch at your place? What’s the logic?

Being outside as opposed to inside.

 

[MarcMaverick]

presumably when we get to the last step to move to "COVID normal"

So never. Good to know.

You'd think that being a former minister for health, he knows how beneficial to health gyms are for society as a whole. What a bespectacled bell-end

 

[FRUMPY]

Been going for a kick at the park most weekends, no one wears a mask, people running around everywhere unmasked

I’m pretty sure I got more chance of getting covid (if any) there, than if I have two mates over

Walk past a construction site, maybe 1 person has a mask on.

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[FRUMPY]

So I can dress up as a priest, and have 20 of my Richmond mates worship Dustin Martin

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in front of a TV in the grounds of a church. Done deal

Is a man cave not a religious place?

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[FRUMPY]

1st of November those things start happening

Just another two weeks ........

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