Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[catman2006]

We don't always get it right getting Jenkins is now a big mistake

A mistake for Jenkins cost us very little for him to be back up and with only a year to go on his contract he is better to talk too some clubs like north ess even freo

 

[BORIS332]

I know how it turned out. Getting A grade talent is never going to be a bust. However We are still the only club to trade for a RFA. We didn’t or couldn’t price Danger above Adel. We can do that with Cameron.

The Danger trade cost us Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

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and another second Rd pick where Wells specialises. To ignore that is not telling the full story of Free Agency.

The same convo should be had here with Cameron. Might cost of Bruhn or Ollie Henry if we are yet again forced into a trade. You still take Cameron and everyone will still claim a win in 4 years. However it’s not just coincidence it’s only happening to us. Once it’s yeah ok bad luck. Twice.......well

We could have easily out-priced Adelaide for Danger, but we chose not to due to our strict pay structures, which was the right decision.

Danger cost us Gore, Milera and Mitch Hibberd. Have a look at the players that were picked after Hibberd in that draft, there was no one except Menegola who we got anyway. Even in the first round after (and including) Milera there were no stars.

 

[Commando]

We don't always get it right getting Jenkins is now a big mistake

he was a cheap insurance policy

 

[Drunkcat]

he was a cheap insurance policy

Yes but now he is a list cloggar

 

[Commando]

Yes but now he is a list cloggar

trade bait
Someone will take him off our hands

 

[strauchnyy]

Still don’t see where the extra cap is coming from to mAtch.

But for the purpose of spit balling. FA’s are not worth as much in a trade. They’ve given years of service and that is known amongst clubs. It’s why we only have a first round and a second round for Danger. Compo in between the compensation pick and market value.

We will not be giving up a young player. Zero chance. Esava, Clark are long term players for us.

It’ll be 2 round 1s. Maybe something coming back.

13 + 18 for Cameron is better than 10, but not as much as market value. It’s MORE than what we gave for danger.

Leaves us with 11. Which should be traded under no circumstances.

 

[BigCat1]

Edmund on SEN seems sure the contract is the same and the Giants will be matching and asking for two first round picks.

These guys are unbelievable. So no top 10 pick and apparently a 28 yr old on less money than Sheil and Treloar is worth more in a trade.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Just doesnt sound like wells. We will try to persuade a player they like and we are prepared to let go but not force... but with picks ..

2 R1 picks which would be earlier than what we gave for Ottens is what I can see as an option...
.. we may give up a Fr1 , we may look at trading out someone we would prefer to keep

I know its probably not something we would do but it is an option if we want to keep our picks. Id rather trade current picks than future picks if it came to it.

 

[Commando]

Yes but now he is a list cloggar

then pay him out he’s on minimum chips
I still think someone takes his contract of our hands

 

[dazbroncos]

People who wanted that underestimate Stephen Wells' power. He's turned 1 player (Tim Kelly

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4.0

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4.9

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19.9

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12.3

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7.6

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3.1

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4.7

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3.6

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21.6

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) into 3 first round picks and Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

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2.6

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10.0

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7.1

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2.9

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4.6

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2.0

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1.9

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. With that type of genius at the club you dont bottom out.

Yup.. and there a thread full of people arguing Wells is no good.
Did NOT AGE WELL.

Go Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

No I meant we landed the big fish and there will now be limited TPP room for the minnows. We won’t fit all of Cameron, Crouch, Higgins and others in. It will be Cameron and maybe one other at most. Might even save someone like Narkle or Constable from the chop.

IWWT

Go Catters

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Still don’t see where the extra cap is coming from to mAtch.

But for the purpose of spit balling. FA’s are not worth as much in a trade. They’ve given years of service and that is known amongst clubs. It’s why we only have a first round and a second round for Danger. Compo in between the compensation pick and market value.

We will not be giving up a young player. Zero chance. Esava, Clark are long term players for us.

It’ll be 2 round 1s. Maybe something coming back.

13 + 18 for Cameron is better than 10, but not as much as market value. It’s MORE than what we gave for danger.

Leaves us with 11. Which should be traded under no circumstances.

I agree...you would look at 2 teens picks with a R2 or 3 coming back if it was a trade. Maybe we try and get the dogs involved as they will want to trade 12 for points. Id still prefer we dont trade and call their bluff on FA matching..i just dont think they really will match.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

However it’s not just coincidence it’s only happening to us. Once it’s yeah ok bad luck. Twice.......well

It kind of is. We can only play the hand we're dealt, and in this case, the picks we have are close enough in value to the compensation on offer that GWS have little to lose by forcing a trade. Adelaide even less so given their compensation pick would have been after our first round pick. If GWS or Adelaide had been a bottom 3 side (like GC with Lynch), you can bet they'd have rolled over and taken the early pick. But we can't control that, so we make the best of the situation at hand. The alternative is a Buddy deal, look how that's going for Sydney. As I have laid out in this thread, the compensation situation is a mess and leads to wildly varied outcomes like we have seen with Danger (unfair potential compo, "fair" trade instead), Lynch (fair compo, but bottom side still loses best player), Franklin (abysmal compo, Sydney now have an albatross contract) and now Cameron (TBD) and Crouch (Adelaide openly trying to bait another team into taking their best player, but only if the compo suits them).

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We could have easily out-priced Adelaide for Danger, but we chose not to due to our strict pay structures, which was the right decision.

Danger cost us Gore, Milera and Mitch Hibberd. Have a look at the players that were picked after Hibberd in that draft, there was no one except Menegola who we got anyway. Even in the first round after (and including) Milera there were no stars.

That assumes we would have picked those players...we might have taken curnow or miller for example. Point being you shouldnt give up picks unless you have to.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

What about a trade to another Club, as part of the JC deal?

Potentially possible.

 

[Turbocat]

IWWT

Go Catters

lets see how he is trusted after we get Higgins. Id be quite happy to proven wrong and we trade a Steven like pick for him but I doubt it

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think the smart thing would be for GWS to let him go for free, and to work out a side deal with us that favors them. Otherwise they let that compo pick disappear into the ether. It's a bit shady, but it wouldn't be breaking any hard and fast rules that I'm aware of. Gold Coast were allowed to piss away that first rounder that we now have for no apparent reason. Why can't we?

So long as the side deals are commercially fair on their own the afl are unlikely to block them.

 

[Turbocat]

I know how it turned out. Getting A grade talent is never going to be a bust. However We are still the only club to trade for a RFA. We didn’t or couldn’t price Danger above Adel. We can do that with Cameron.

The Danger trade cost us Charlie Curnow

35

Charlie Curnow

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

and another second Rd pick where Wells specialises. To ignore that is not telling the full story of Free Agency.

The same convo should be had here with Cameron. Might cost of Bruhn or Ollie Henry if we are yet again forced into a trade. You still take Cameron and everyone will still claim a win in 4 years. However it’s not just coincidence it’s only happening to us. Once it’s yeah ok bad luck. Twice.......well

I agree that its frustrating for those who like drafting young talent.. Its a result business ... and trading out what ever you do atm to get Cameron is the Dangerflag approach .. and worry about getting a Falcons back as we have ..later ..if possible. The one that really annoyed me was Henderson who should have been FA at the time but had changed clubs ..so we lost a FR1. ..and it sort of took several years to get our draft back in sync

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Most of our list isnt contracted beyond 2022.
I reckon if we lose a few fringe players now (constable narkle etc) and in future years and backend contracts we can probably fit all of cameron higgins and crouch in the cap if they want to come.

 

[catempire]

We will not be giving up a young player. Zero chance. Esava, Clark are long term players for us.

It also just makes no sense to trade players when we have a glut of first round picks. Trading a player against their will is extremely rare and really a last resort.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

It also just makes no sense to trade players when we have a glut of first round picks. Trading a player against their will is extremely rare and really a last resort.

Burst out laughing when I heard Parfitt's name come up on one of the FoxFooty talk shows last night. Not in a million years.

 

[Turbocat]

It also just makes no sense to trade players when we have a glut of first round picks. Trading a player against their will is extremely rare and really a last resort.

No one will be traded against their will.... we currently have glut ... after Cameron ..its probably going to be reduced to a good amount. What we have if we continue with other player targets ..who knows.. If we want Crouch..I can see the Crows doing the same as GWS and want us to trade

 

[calder_daddy]

We’ve all heard about the mystery mid.
But word of a mystery Backman possibly looking at coming to Geelong.
Going to be hard to do, whether it’s this year or next or not at all

 

[Turbocat]

Burst out laughing when I heard Parfitt's name come up on one of the FoxFooty talk shows last night. Not in a million years.

Thats just a standard reaction... look at the names ESS threw out there for Saad

 

[catempire]

No one will be traded against their will.... we currently have glut ... after Cameron ..its probably going to be reduced to a good amount. What we have if we continue with other player targets ..who knows.. If we want Crouch..I can see the Crows doing the same as GWS and want us to trade

Crouch looks increasingly out of the picture.