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I'd have thought that the Angliru is that for the Vuelta (which happens to be in the same mountain range as the Gamoniteiru)
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That's a fair call, but there are multiple epic ones in each GT (Mont Venteux another example) and I guess I get excited when I see new climbs that look like this and all the possibilitiesI'd have thought that the Angliru is that for the Vuelta (which happens to be in the same mountain range as the Gamoniteiru)
The Gamoniteru is "only" the 2nd hardest climb in Spain, behind the Angliru. Mind you, that still puts it about 50 positions above Alpe D'Huez, on the list of toughest climbs in Europe.I really hope that it becomes an iconic Vuelta climb, similar to the Zonkolan for the Giro or Alp D'uez for the Tour. It looks brutal.
The Angliru is the King of Climbs, at least as far as Europe is concerned. The Alpe is vastly overrated, when you compare its level of difficulty with many other climbs.That's a fair call, but there are multiple epic ones in each GT (Mont Venteux another example) and I guess I get excited when I see new climbs that look like this and all the possibilities
This is what I love about when you post. The Tourmalet should get more MT finishes as well, I agree. We're probably due another visit to Alpe D'huez next year actuallyThe Gamoniteru is "only" the 2nd hardest climb in Spain, behind the Angliru. Mind you, that still puts it about 50 positions above Alpe D'Huez, on the list of toughest climbs in Europe.
Alpe D'Huez, for all its mythological status, really doesn't belong in the same company as those other climbs.
Even last night's climb to Lagos de Covadonga is arguably tougher than the Alpe. The average gradient is lower, but the steepest kilimater (12.2%) and peak gradient (16%) are both considerably harder than what the Alpe has to offer.
- Alpe D'Huez is only 13.8km @ 8.1%. The steepest kilometer is only 11.5%, and the maximum gradient hits 13%.
- The Zoncolan is shorter, at 9.9km, but has an average of 12.2%. The steepest kilometre is 17.2%, with a maximum gradient of 20%.
- The Angliru is 12.6km, with an average of 10.1%. The steepest kilometre is 17.5%, with a maximum gradient of 23.5%.
- The Gamoniteru is 14.8km, at an average of 9.76%, with a steepest kilometer at 12.8% (right at the very top), and a maximum gradient of 17%.
The Angliru & Zoncolan deserve to be rated much more highly than the Alpe. So, for that matter, does the Gamoniteru. The only reason the Alpe is so highly rated is because of it's status within the Tour. It's not even the toughest climb on the Tour, but they don't usually put the finish line on top of the Tourmalet...
The only reason the Alpe is so highly rated is because of it's status within the Tour.
Think it's a case of they want the stage win for Haig maybe?Bahrain have put in so much effort pacing most of the day for God knows what reason. They ain't winning GC, doubtful to win the stage ahead of Roglic if the break doesn't succeed and Movistar have nobody up the road.
At least they resurfaced the last 500mThis race pulls out some goat tracks but this takes the cake.
I was just doing the maths myself. I think it's unlikely that Storer fails to score more than 1pt if he goes in the breakaway, or Bardet scoring less than 6 if he goes in the break. The only way it works for Majka & Caruso is if the DSM riders are both content to sit in the peleton.Will be interesting to see if Majka or Caruso attempt to get in the break. It's mathematically possible for them to win the KOM, but it requires them to win every climb and Storer to only get 1 point or Bardet only 6. As far as DSM tactics go, I'd just mark any moves of the pair. One sits on Majka, the other Caruso.
Have to finish second on the Cat three, the scoring goes:I was just doing the maths myself. I think it's unlikely that Storer fails to score more than 1pt if he goes in the breakaway, or Bardet scoring less than 6 if he goes in the break. The only way it works for Majka & Caruso is if the DSM riders are both content to sit in the peleton.
If Storer & Bardet sat in the peleton, then Majka/Caruso could afford to drop a maximum of 2 points for the entire stage. That leaves 2 possible permutations:
- Finish 2nd or 3rd on the Cat 3, while winning the Cat 1 and all of the Cat 2s;
- Finish 2nd on one of the Cat 2s, while winning all of the other climbs.
I'd plan around both getting in and just letting them duke it outIt really is very simple - if DSM get Bardet or Storer into the breakaway, then that's the KotM jersey decided. The question is who they want to give it to? Storer already has multiple stage wins, so they may want Bardet to come away with a prize as well.