List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[bird_man]

Would we take Sier as delisted free agent. I know he's a bit of a w***er but he could be worth a 1 year deal

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Did he get delisted?

Not really the type of mid we need. Would only be depth

 

[George]

We have only started our full on rebuild three years ago when Lethlean arrived. Carlton should start to move up soon. Their list just needs time now, they have most of the pieces in place.

They don't have a midfield though. Walsh and then who. Cripps unfortunately isn't the player he used to be and Dow is a bust to many Blues fans.

 

[gringo2011]

Quite the opposite. it is absolutely no distraction to this year as it wont happen, which means we are concentrating on the draft, with somehow adding an extra top 15 dp, getting two quality junior mids and hopefully getting the two NGA's.

If anything it focusses our strategy for the next three years.

So what happens if we don't get B.King? We have two extra FRDP's (2022 and 2023) a lot of freed up cap space and a whole lot of other options. Free Agency n another missing piece and more quality kids? Or trades for more experience etc.

I think the strategy is sound. After two years where we brought in 8 immediate first 22 players (if I include Highmore) and got some real bonus youth quality in Byrnes, Connelly, and Sharman player excellent roles, I like the 'hit the draft' strategy.

I reckon this strategy was put together in 2018, probably tweaked after we missed King, and now we are going to at least execute the plan and hopefully reap the benefits of the youth coming in.

I don't want to have to wait another 10 years while we chase a feel good story over a premiership.

 

[gringo2011]

They don't have a midfield though. Walsh and then who. Cripps unfortunately isn't the player he used to be and Dow is a bust to many Blues fans.

They have Cripps, Cerra will get there, they have Brodie Kemp who is a bit of a Bytel type injury bargain and Dow started to show that he's not a spud this year. If they can get some run out of Williams they might finally come good with some decent coaching and games into youth. The pieces look good on paper but they have to overcome the mental stuff.

 

[hangdog]

Did he get delisted?

Not really the type of mid we need. Would only be depth

If we lost Ross and Dunstan I'd like him for depth. Just needs a proper crack at it. Didn't get much TOG when picked and then had some injury issues.

 

[George]

They have Cripps, Cerra will get there, they have Brodie Kemp who is a bit of a Bytel type injury bargain and Dow started to show that he's not a spud this year. If they can get some run out of Williams they might finally come good with some decent coaching and games into youth. The pieces look good on paper but they have to overcome the mental stuff.

Cripps is on the decline. Cerra's a good player. Never heard of Kemp. Carlton supporters I know were saying Dow is still a bust. Williams good. But they just sacked a coach, I don't think they are as good as you might give them credit for.

 

[Spider Eater]

Would we take Sier as delisted free agent. I know he's a bit of a w***er but he could be worth a 1 year deal

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[Ephemeral Hope]

Spot on. I’d be more comfortable with Leo Connolly with ball in hand late in a big final than Luke Dunstan.

Back the kids in, we’ve got enough peak age talent to support them.


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Its proof that our draftees don't need to be babied. Bytel's played just a few less games than those premiership players for the Dees. Clark has 60 games. Sharman has about 5 games. They're all ready to go. No reason they couldn't be in our best 22

 

[StCicatriz]

According to Edmund he still thinks Ross will sign after how confident Ratten was in his last interview.

He did say he thought it would have been done by now though but hasn't heard of any clubs chasing his signature.

Unless he and his management are keeping a secret it doesn't seem likely he will leave.

this is probably the weirdest thing, this whole year.

 

[StCicatriz]

They have Cripps, Cerra will get there, they have Brodie Kemp who is a bit of a Bytel type injury bargain and Dow started to show that he's not a spud this year. If they can get some run out of Williams they might finally come good with some decent coaching and games into youth. The pieces look good on paper but they have to overcome the mental stuff.

i really rate Fisher

 

[JediSaint]

Its proof that our draftees don't need to be babied. Bytel's played just a few less games than those premiership players for the Dees. Clark has 60 games. Sharman has about 5 games. They're all ready to go. No reason they couldn't be in our best 22

If fit enough Bytel, Connelly, Byrnes, Sharman would definitely be in my starting 22 for rnd 1.

I would also be opening an opportunity to Allison and Heath for a mid season debut, as well as any of our pick through this Draft.

 

[Sully111]

We would like Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

.. so what. Healy making a story out of nothing.

 

[bird_man]

this is probably the weirdest thing, this whole year.

The weirdest thing this whole year?

In 2021?

 

[bird_man]

If fit enough Bytel, Connelly, Byrnes, Sharman would definitely be in my starting 22 for rnd 1.

I would also be opening an opportunity to Allison and Heath for a mid season debut, as well as any of our pick through this Draft.

The first 3 will have to show improvement if they are going to be best 22 every week when we are fully fit.

If Sharman's form continues he's there.

I'll be surprised if either of Heath or Allison play next year.

 

[StCicatriz]

The weirdest thing this whole year?

In 2021?

hehehe fair point! i meant of the OOC/trade stuff

 

[bird_man]

hehehe fair point! i meant of the OOC/trade stuff

It's odd. I'm guessing they are just leaving the feelers out in case anyone comes knocking?

Either that or he's just trying to get the contract up a little.

 

[StCicatriz]

The first 3 will have to show improvement if they are going to be best 22 every week when we are fully fit.

If Sharman's form continues he's there.

I'll be surprised if either of Heath or Allison play next year.

Heath will be 2-4 years away given he's a ruck. he might get a game here or there though.

Allison i think could play sooner. i think he needs a big pre-season and some VFL form though. it could take him half a year to get that.

 

[StCicatriz]

It's odd. I'm guessing they are just leaving the feelers out in case anyone comes knocking?

Either that or he's just trying to get the contract up a little.

lethers was very confident. then the baby stuff happened and since then dead quiet.

i'm wondering if he's going but hasn't been honest.

or he's got a conditional offer, based on some other stuff happening at other clubs.

 

[gringo2011]

Luke Jackson, James Jordon, Jake Bowey, Kozzy Pickett. All first or second year players who played the entire finals run and most of the year. Melbourne weren’t concerned about playing old farts like Jones there. They played the kids and won the flag. No reason our kids can’t just be good.

They did but they also had depth and no real injuries to get them either. Helps that they had a pile of high end picked kids too.

 

[saint66au]

The first 3 will have to show improvement if they are going to be best 22 every week when we are fully fit.

If Sharman's form continues he's there.

I'll be surprised if either of Heath or Allison play next year.

Some Clubs can afford the luxury of a first round pick not playing for 2 seasons. We are not one of those clubs..

 

[gringo2011]

I really liked his career. Should have been Norm Smith the one year ( can’t remember which of the three ) IMO.
Has he got anything left in the tank though?

No he's shot.

 

[Minga]

From memory Freo took it to the media through Peter Bell. He came out talking a massive game.

We offered our first pick and he laughed it off so we went to GWS and split it then traded with Port Adelaide before going back to Freo.

It was honestly one of the great trade periods. We went armed with a decent first and through splitting it, trading with port and then adding some fringe/old players like Acres, Bruce and Stuv we walked away with Hill, Howard, Ryder, Jones, Butler and Byrnes was picked up with one of the picks we got for Bruce

That trade period got me hooked. The season that followed it went alright as well

 

[SaintyMcSaintface]

Can we get any inside word from anyone? About anything? What did DMAC have for breakfast?

 

[gringo2011]

100%.
Think of the players we missed from the compromised drafts when we were near the bottom of the ladder. Nope. No sympathy. Sorry.

We don't deserve sympathy for that, we traded down picks in that era as well.

We had pick 12 and 13 (Goddard compo) in the draft in 2012. Swapped 12 for Tom Lee and 24 (Nath Wright), 45 (Josh Saunders).
Not done yet traded 13, 36, 55 for Tom Hickey and 25 (Spencer White) and 46 (traded for Trent Dennis-Lane).

Then did the same with Milera and Saad as well. Pelican started the trout era off with a bang by diluting picks in an era that the franchise clubs had already decimated.

 

[Joffaboy]

I don't want to have to wait another 10 years while we chase a feel good story over a premiership.

So thats what you gleaned from my post. What an incredibly weird response.