List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Joffaboy]

Why would Coffs manager be shopping him? He just signed a new contract after a great season so we can assume it would be a good contract. Since then his form has been poor.

His manager should be telling him to get out on the track and in the gym and work his arse off if he wants to earn the same in the future.

Don't know, maybe his manager got calls from other clubs, I'm not his manager.

 

[snails13]

Hawks can keep their grubby little mitts of Clark. He's our silk. One of the last players i'd want to lose.
[/QUOTE.
Me thinks Rors has sucked many of you guys in

 

[Joffaboy]

On current outputs no club would offer us a first rounder for Coffield. Essendon just picked up Jake Kelly and Adelaide's compo was Pick 42.

We picked up Highmore for Pick 45. Yet to be convinced that Coff offers a lot more than either of those two.

PS - Best thing about Naish is that they make great high performance SUP's.


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I agree and considering he is contracted and the Saints want him, he won't be going anywhere.

 

[BrutThough]

Yeah I'm counting on a couple of those guys listed moving on and also a spot or two opening up after trades (which will obviously land us a draft pick, its just whether that pick gets used on NGA or another player)

I'd imagine if we get a back up ruck than Hunter will be gone.

I think Sharman can remain on the rookie list

If it ends up we have 6 list spots to fill, we currently have a way of filling 3 in the draft which means the remaining 3 have to be filled as DFA's or in the rookie draft

Probably worth leaving one spot open for the MSD draft again though

I think most clubs will leave one or two open post draft again for those pre-season signed and the mid season draft.

I wasnt counting any being opened up by trade yet since no one has any serious linked to a new club. But that could obviously change very quickly.

But overall, we seem to be in a decent place with list spots. We aren't in the situation that some clubs are (GC and Brisbane mainly) with too many players contracted to fit in trades/draftees but shouldn't have to bring in too many this year to reach the required numbers.

 

[botts]

No, Wilkie has been on the rookie list for 3 years

As long as he is getting the sheets he deserves I guess it doesn’t matter what list he is on

 

[Ailurus]

What’s the knock on him? I don’t get it. He seems to dominate and hasn’t featured in any phantom draft order. Do recruiters think he has reached high full potential?

KM suggested he might not even be drafted, thought he was well suited to dominated in state leagues but perhaps not capable of stepping up

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I would normally agree but with the lack of footy for the 2000 & 2021 crops, it’s even harder than ever to nail speculative picks

I don’t mind a couple of guys from the top teams fringe that might turn the corner with a bit of a wake up call & new environment. At least we know they can play at the level already (to an extent)

I don’t think we know that. Sure, there might be reasons, but he has also had a few years to demonstrate real quality. Who knows what we might find in the draft late. Could be worse. Could be better.

 

[gringo2011]

Delisted

Outside player, good runner, neat user, not very hard at it

Wing or flank

Has dominated VFL at times but hasn't got going at AFL level

We bidded on him in the 2nd round of the 2017 draft before we took Clav

My Tiger mate didn't rate his disposal but I just read up on him and it may have been his decision making instead. I know he wasn't much of a fan though. I'm keen to get a bit of experienced depth with some upside. He'd be worth getting him in to train with us. This mate is a harsh marker.

 

[gringo2011]

I can't see why we want Naish, Doesn't seem to get the hard ball or tackle not a tip rat what's his place in our team? Is it because he is cheap as a delisted free agent or are we hoping to improve our vfl team next year? If we are actually seriously looking at bringing in some young talent how about we look at Will Brodie a far better fit.

The running wing role Hill was going to play.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Trading Coff or Clark would be madness. They both re-signed in March though so pretty comfortable those rumours are baseless.

You know a lot of the rumours on here are like the person who spotted a black cat in his back yard , next thing its in the news ,,, Black Panther spotted

 

[gringo2011]

Knightmare reckons he's a ball pig who doesn't offer much besides clearances, not damaging

Doesn't sound like what we need really, we need someone who can hurt teams on the spread

He's a big extractor mid. His numbers and SuperCoach markers are off the charts. I reckon there's always a place for those.

 

[gringo2011]

Hawks can keep their grubby little mitts of Clark. He's our silk. One of the last players i'd want to lose.

Clark isn't the finished article after 4 years, it's basically resetting back 4 years of development in a draft that pick 5 and 15 aren't that far apart because the talent pool is pretty even in that range and it's a draft that has kids who missed 2 years of development already so might be even slower to come on.

 

[gringo2011]

What’s the knock on him? I don’t get it. He seems to dominate and hasn’t featured in any phantom draft order. Do recruiters think he has reached high full potential?

Missed the last draft, Maher looks good too and he's not getting talked up. I still think a couple of 2020 kids could sneak into the draft as clubs look to more know talent. Cody Raak and Schlong too.

 

[CaptainRisky]

There is a fair bit of this going on ATM

 

[Joffaboy]

But isn't Clark fat and lazy and only runs one way? Though some of you would be happy to get 5 for him.

 

[gringo2011]

I don't mind the sound of Naish. be a cheap pick up at least

It's basically like Mason Wood, semi developed back up but with a lot more upside that McKernan and Frawley.

 

[Joffaboy]

It's basically like Mason Wood, semi developed back up but with a lot more upside that McKernan and Frawley.

I like how we are become a poor man's Richmond

 

[gringo2011]

Why would Coffs manager be shopping him? He just signed a new contract after a great season so we can assume it would be a good contract. Since then his form has been poor.

His manager should be telling him to get out on the track and in the gym and work his arse off if he wants to earn the same in the future.

I heard he wasn't happy with being dropped for Highmore, maybe he's seeing the writing on the wall for next year. His best role is as a sweeper interceptor and Highmore looks like he's hit the ground running while Coff stepped backwards. I think by the sound of it he may have had a few home truths laid on him early in the year as well after his attitude was a bit too cocky.

 

[gringo2011]

Naish is only one year older than Cooper Sharman

There have been a few examples of late of young players being delisted from their club and being able to make the most of another chance.

I'm not fussed either way with him, but I think just because a player has been delisted doesn't make them any less likely than whoever is taken with a very late or rookie draft pick to become a good AFL player.

Outside soft players are never the most exciting prospects but you do need some of them. At least you aren't blowing much capital on him.

 

[gringo2011]

But isn't Clark fat and lazy and only runs one way? Though some of you would be happy to get 5 for him.

He needs a rocket not to go out of the side. We really need these semi developed guys to step up not start again with a new group. Hopefully the fitness and development guys we bring in have some skills.

I'm about starting to make hay now, not waiting another 5 years for some magical time when Ben and Max King are the best forward combination ever. We've been waiting long enough.

We would have had the biggest list turn over of just about any side in the AFL under Lethlean. At some point we need to stop churning and start moving forward. And we'd probably take a third tall with his pick anyway, that's our new half back flanker.

 

[sunny3193]

Outside soft players are never the most exciting prospects but you do need some of them. At least you aren't blowing much capital on him.

If he gut runs like Langdon do we care?
I wouldn’t.

 

[gringo2011]

There is a fair bit of this going on ATM

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There's a fair bit of you not getting how these trade and draft threads work.

 

[lewdogs]

He needs a rocket not to go out of the side. We really need these semi developed guys to step up not start again with a new group. Hopefully the fitness and development guys we bring in have some skills.

I'm about starting to make hay now, not waiting another 5 years for some magical time when Ben and Max King are the best forward combination ever. We've been waiting long enough.

We would have had the biggest list turn over of just about any side in the AFL under Lethlean. At some point we need to stop churning and start moving forward. And we'd probably take a third tall with his pick anyway, that's our new half back flanker.

Clark had an interrupted season but played a couple of elite games this year including getting 33 touches.

With a tank he'll be scary good.

 

[gringo2011]

KM suggested he might not even be drafted, thought he was well suited to dominated in state leagues but perhaps not capable of stepping up

I haven't got a HS subscription but this is their byline on him. He's too good not to get a go. He'd be equal to Constable but with much more upside.

Draft gun who eclipsed Danger, Walsh, Rowell
He’s the young gun that produced the best NAB League season on record but Northern Knights skipper Joel Trudgeon couldn’t care less.

 

[gringo2011]

Clark had an interrupted season but played a couple of elite games this year including getting 33 touches.

With a tank he'll be scary good.

His skill set is top shelf, now it comes down to attitude and fitness, get those right and he's got champion written all over him.