Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

42

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

48

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

39

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

45

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

49

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

43

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

48

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

49

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[citizen-erased]

I don’t think Yze would take a 3 year deal, would he..? I feel like it’d take a 5 year offer to get him

Any coach i imagine.

Kinda hope we do too. Someone needs time to make the changes required

 

[Albertross]

Any coach i imagine.

Kinda hope we do too. Someone needs time to make the changes required

I agree, but, do you honestly think we will gift them time unless the W/L record is heavily in our favour?

 

[Cold Sober]

Show some balls as a Club appoint Hird and live with the outcome.

 

[eth-dog]

Show some balls as a Club appoint Hird and live with the outcome.

I prefer us showing brains and not doing that.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

Show some balls as a Club appoint Hird and live with the outcome.

How is that showing balls?

 

[dank420_]

Why are all the old boomers on this board obsessed with getting their testicles out

 

[biglaycock]

Seems like Caracalla is on his way out, I wonder if Gia may be a consideration as per Cooney’s podcast earlier today.

Whichever way we go I just really hope we are patient this time, as long as the effort and intent is there each week the members will be happy to bide their time for regular success

 

[84859300]

Why are all the old boomers on this board obsessed with getting their testicles out

It's the wrinkles

 

[RearNaked]

Let put our money where our testicles are boys and Hire the legend

 

[Cold Sober]

How is that showing balls?

What rock are some of you people born under.

 

[bombreys]

Any coach i imagine.

Kinda hope we do too. Someone needs time to make the changes required

I think so.

Even (maybe especially) first time coaches.

 

[frodos gardener]

I don’t like the Don Pyke’s head is bent on an angle, so he’s out.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

What rock are some of you people born under.

That’s a good question, mind answering it?

 

[bombreys]

I agree, but, do you honestly think we will gift them time unless the W/L record is heavily in our favour?

I think we have to now.

For as horribly as Truck was treated - and as much as he absolutely didn’t deserve it - Barham was right that you can’t have 5+ games a year where the team just doesn’t show up. You can have one, maybe two at absolute max. Truck was clearly at least partially a scapegoat, but he coached a team that about once a month totally and completely threw in the towel. You can’t have that at this level.

Whether people like it or not, Truck let that happen. He came out, after an atrocious second half against GWS and an atrocious 4 quarters against Port - said he wouldn’t accept those effort levels - and then let the same side play again and, of course, lost by 11 goals.

We’re not going to be a winning side for a while, no matter who’s coaching - but the players need to learn that effort can’t just be applied when they feel like it. It’s a non-negotiable.

 

[Albertross]

I think we have to now.

For as horribly as Truck was treated - and as much as he absolutely didn’t deserve it - Barham was right that you can’t have 5+ games a year where the team just doesn’t show up. You can have one, maybe two at absolute max. Truck was clearly at least partially a scapegoat, but he coached a team that about once a month totally and completely threw in the towel. You can’t have that at this level.

Whether people like it or not, Truck let that happen. He came out, after an atrocious second half against GWS and an atrocious 4 quarters against Port - said he wouldn’t accept those effort levels - and then let the same side play again and, of course, lost by 11 goals.

We’re not going to be a winning side for a while, no matter who’s coaching - but the players need to learn that effort can’t just be applied when they feel like it. It’s a non-negotiable.

Do we have the depth to stop that from happening though, regardless of who we drop and subsequently bring in? Who could we have dropped and brought in that would have stopped the carnage, and possibly blowing the margin by even more, against the Tigers?

The only player that I though gave a **** on the weekend was Zach. To me, that was disappointing. As others have pointed out though, there are current Premiership coaches that have had multiple blowouts during their initial coaching years.

I'm not saying Truck was the answer, we will never know now. What I do believe though, is that if the board are looking for a more experienced coach to replace Truck, there are slim pickings. So you know who we will end up with, don't you!

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Appointing Ross Lyon would finally bring the club into this century.

I'm concerned it might not bring us into this decade though.

 

[frodos gardener]

I’d love to get a look at Steve Johnson as an assistant. Has done stints at Sydney and GWS. With the changes there at the latter, it could be a chance for him to come home to VIC. Plus he always had a bit of mongrel and high footy IQ.

Edit: as an assistant.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

It's comical but also sad , seeing so many in the media saying we need new ideas and a non-Essendon guy to coach but nearly everyone knows it's going to be Hird.

It was interesting revisiting (with Lyon, Brown, Roo) how Dunstall was tasked with hiring a new coach for them and went with Clarko (obviously a non-Hawthorn guy) and he had to clear out a lot of friends from various roles during that process. I wonder if an ex-Bomber could do that? or just hire Dunstall for us and hope he wouldn't deliberately sabotage his old rivals in the process!

Dunstall and the Hawks coaching committee chose Wallace. He knocked back the job and went to Richmond instead.

Clarkson wasn’t their choice, they ended up with him when Wallace snubbed them.

It’s often not mentioned.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Dunstall and the Hawks coaching committee chose Wallace. He knocked back the job and went to Richmond instead.

Clarkson wasn’t their choice, they ended up with him when Wallace snubbed them.

It’s often not mentioned.

Also Eade snubbed them for the Dogs. It was down to Clarko and Ayres, Dermie wanted Ayres and Dunstall Clarko. Interesting at the time of appt there was huge board upheaval with Don Scott group looking to oust the board and even threatening to reverse Clarko decision if they took over. Clarko brushed off concerns

 

[andleanback]

I’d love to get a look at Steve Johnson as an assistant. Has done stints at Sydney and GWS. With the changes there at the latter, it could be a chance for him to come home to VIC. Plus he always had a bit of mongrel and high footy IQ.

Still a couple of years away from senior coach imo. Only been a full time coach since 2018.

 

[84859300]

Let put our money where our testicles are boys and Hire the legend

We're bringing in Derrick J?

 

[ant555]

What was his excuse this year? It seems like he’d checked out and exhausted all avenues to success so threw in the towel with some bizarre coaching moves and playing players out of position which ultimately ended his tenure. Appears burnt out to me.

That is why I started with I doubt he coaches right now. He had run his race at the Giants.

 

[ant555]

I think we have to now.

For as horribly as Truck was treated - and as much as he absolutely didn’t deserve it - Barham was right that you can’t have 5+ games a year where the team just doesn’t show up. You can have one, maybe two at absolute max. Truck was clearly at least partially a scapegoat, but he coached a team that about once a month totally and completely threw in the towel. You can’t have that at this level.

Whether people like it or not, Truck let that happen. He came out, after an atrocious second half against GWS and an atrocious 4 quarters against Port - said he wouldn’t accept those effort levels - and then let the same side play again and, of course, lost by 11 goals.

We’re not going to be a winning side for a while, no matter who’s coaching - but the players need to learn that effort can’t just be applied when they feel like it. It’s a non-negotiable.

Melbourne 2019. 105 , 98 , 68 , 61 , 54, 54 losing margins. 2021. Flag. Same coach.
Not saying it is not an issue but if you go back through any club trying to build something there are always 4 or 5 games that totally fall apart. They have parted ways with Truck which is okay as I think the mistake they made was appointing a bloke from within and the message was not there for some senior players after 4 years of listening to him in some form but big losses come with sides trying to change.
In Clarkson's second season.96,75,65,53,52 losing margins. It can happen in a build.

 

[Howard Moon]

if jim bob loves the club he'd come out today and quash the rumour mill dead - i'm not interested.

til such moment the click fest will intensify.

i look forward to the "Hird finally breaks his silence" headline to click and find young tom has spoken about his delisting...

 

[PowerBaz]

Hey do you mind speeding up your coach selection, we need to appoint another assistant who won’t upset Kenneth Hinkley next year so he can ride out into retirement at the greyhound track.

On a serious note, if Yze is rated so highly why isn’t he getting a top job as yet? He sounds like Scott Burns

Scott Burns

Age

50

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

10.5

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

19.6

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

a bit, highly rated but stuck in assistant land. Did people consider Kingsley in that way in Victoria? Seems more like the quiet achiever.

Apparently Ken was on a plane to Melb by the way. Keep the doors shut.