Preview 2023 Round 8 Carlton vs Brisbane Friday 5th May 7.50PM @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Jesse Motlop
OUT: Zac Fisher, Matthew Kennedy

AFL team news: Motlop returns for Respects

The Blues have named a solitary inclusion for its 2023 AFL Carlton Respects Game.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Sam Docherty	Lewis Young	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Mitch McGovern	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Ed Curnow
Half-forwards:	Sam Walsh	Harry McKay	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	George Hewett	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Ollie Hollands	Josh Honey
	Brodie Kemp
Emergencies:	Lachie Cowan	Zac Fisher	Lachie Fogarty
	Matthew Kennedy

 

[blue healer]

Dow is only going to go St Kilda or be rookied elsewhere.

SOS will want to prove he was right by getting him to saints.

Next week's Oz Lotto numbers?

 

[Arr0w]

Not in front of motts or durdin. Beyond this year we should be upgrading his position.


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In your opinion

 

[myblueroan]

Voss has quietly dropped 5 previous starting 22/23 players after the Adelaide and then St Kilda losses: LoB/TDK/Cowan/Kennedy and Fisher. (LoB aside as far as running power goes) -by doing so VOss has increased the running power of the team and contested ability by including Cincotta/Kemp and pushing Docherty into more midfield duties.

Really enjoyed seeing Charlie pretty much being clear space in the forward fifty on many occasions Harry pushed back to CHF and Jack being told to run his own lines - away from Charlie thank you very much.

If teams want to continue playing teh extra defender - they can try and win the contested ball against Carlton's midfield or sacrifice one of their forwards - giving Carlton a free extra defender and overlap for Saad/Cincotta/McGovern to exploit.

I think this game is going to be very interesting test of what Voss and his team have put in place post the two previous losses. One thing for sure- Brisbane wont be able to just run around Carlton on the outside as easily as they have in the past.

Heard Kingy talk about under use of Weiters this morning. He also went with TDK at half back with Young to help him, but mainly he thinks Weiters needs to be free for intercept play which is his big strength, not take the no1 foward.
Thoughts?

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Most pundits seem to be taking Bris-Vegas in a close one.

It feels 50/50 to me (teams on paper) with 45k crazy Blues supporters getting us up & over the line.

I want to believe & be confident at some point this year - guess it’s going to be a journey .

Come on you beautiful baggers!

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Against witches hats.

Against Collinwood last year Dow had 21 disposals (10 contested), 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, 4 cc's from 65% game time in a game we lost by 4 points.

And....he was dropped the next week.

Hewett totally obliterated Tim Kelly.

Job done well.

 

[BlueTang]

Little tech issue on the AFL app, who is the player instead of Charlie in that pic?

 

[blues4flag]

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Little tech issue on the AFL app, who is the player instead of Charlie in that pic?

Ben King

 

[branedotorg]

Didn’t someone say they were ‘managing’ him through an injury.


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someone on here said he had a nasty corkie

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Heard Kingy talk about under use of Weiters this morning. He also went with TDK at half back with Young to help him, but mainly he thinks Weiters needs to be free for intercept play which is his big strength, not take the no1 foward.
Thoughts?

Does my head in this stuff. Weits is one of the best shut down guys in the comp. Give him the big number 1 forwards and he smokes them. Hawkins, Daniher etc all have their worst performances against us.

We saw vs Adelaide what happens when young gets the big guy and Weits is on the more mobile guy. Let's not do that again thanks Kingy.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

someone on here said he had a nasty corkie

He wouldn't have played or flown last week if that was true btw. Corkies are horrible in pressure changes. Especially after a game. Would've spread the bleed and made it way bigger....

I know of a state cricketer hit just below the thigh pad in the nets, new bl 140-150, hit flush. Bad one. Flew that day. Couldn't play when he got there. Knee to his hip went black.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Heard Kingy talk about under use of Weiters this morning. He also went with TDK at half back with Young to help him, but mainly he thinks Weiters needs to be free for intercept play which is his big strength, not take the no1 foward.
Thoughts?

All I can say thank goodness David King isn’t our coach. The bloke is a click bait specialist.

Weitering is one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league but let’s play him as an interceptor.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks TDK is a defender. He can’t judge the ball in flight and has poor positional awareness.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

All I can say thank goodness David King isn’t our coach. The bloke is a click bait specialist.

Weitering is one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league but let’s play him as an interceptor.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks TDK is a defender. He can’t judge the ball in flight and has poor positional awareness.

1. Weitering has the scope to play as an interceptor, he is better than just a lockdown defender. Sam Durdin could come in and lock down, Weitering has far more strings to his bow and should be better utilised imo. Think it can be a gradual transition though, just certain periods of games where he swaps opponents and focuses more on marking and distribution.
2. "Can't judge the ball in flight and has poor positional awareness" is actually describing why TDK is not a good forward. Defenders get led to the ball and it's far easier for them to impact, how many times have we seen the 'failed forward becomes solid KPD' scenario? Simply, it's a hell of a lot easier to play KPD than KPF. Reckon TDK will make a good defender one day but I can't see it being at Carlton.

 

[JustaBattler]

Heard Kingy talk about under use of Weiters this morning. He also went with TDK at half back with Young to help him, but mainly he thinks Weiters needs to be free for intercept play which is his big strength, not take the no1 foward.
Thoughts?

Weights was the #1 intercept marking defender at the time of his draft - with daylight second. Carlton however never invested in a proper FB - and Weitering was repurposed into the #1 stopper - by Bolton who preferred Marchbank as the designated CHB and interceptor. It was only when Marchbank started being always injured that Jones was given a new lease of life as a second tall defender - like Cripps Weitering had to battle one out with B grade help for a few years - remember Docherty was largely missing due to injury in Weitering's formative years. It is all different now with Saaad /Docherty and a bunch of others filling out the defensive list.

TDK as a CHB? Carlton has better options atm.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Does my head in this stuff. Weits is one of the best shut down guys in the comp. Give him the big number 1 forwards and he smokes them. Hawkins, Daniher etc all have their worst performances against us.

We saw vs Adelaide what happens when young gets the big guy and Weits is on the more mobile guy. Let's not do that again thanks Kingy.

Totally agree with King - Weiters is being used as a road block.

He used to intercept and deliver by foot beautifully - we are realising 30% of his value.

 

[The Toad]

All I can say thank goodness David King isn’t our coach. The bloke is a click bait specialist.

Weitering is one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league but let’s play him as an interceptor.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks TDK is a defender. He can’t judge the ball in flight and has poor positional awareness.

Not sure about the ball flight thing BB. I’ve seen him take a few hangers which I’d presume would require a fair amount ball flight awareness.

 

[CJMB]

Not sure about the ball flight thing BB. I’ve seen him take a few hangers which I’d presume would require a fair amount ball flight awareness.

how many have you seen him mistime though? what's the strike rate?...

 

[Coops93]

I asked why Ed was still getting a game. It came down to he is the only one they think can do a shut down role. But I agree I think we need to go past Ed at some point.

That's just not true though, Hewett can play the shut down role very well. He's also excellent at playing that role and still being damaging the other way.

 

[The Toad]

how many have you seen him mistime though? what's the strike rate?...

Absolutely no idea.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Totally agree with King - Weiters is being used as a road block.

He used to intercept and deliver by foot beautifully - we are realising 30% of his value.

I want the best of both worlds. The best key defenders in the comp both lockdown on key forwards and intercept. Look at Taylor, Andrews, May, Moore. Weitering should be able to do that as well. He just needs to play more aggressively.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

1. Weitering has the scope to play as an interceptor, he is better than just a lockdown defender. Sam Durdin could come in and lock down, Weitering has far more strings to his bow and should be better utilised imo. Think it can be a gradual transition though, just certain periods of games where he swaps opponents and focuses more on marking and distribution.
2. "Can't judge the ball in flight and has poor positional awareness" is actually describing why TDK is not a good forward. Defenders get led to the ball and it's far easier for them to impact, how many times have we seen the 'failed forward becomes solid KPD' scenario? Simply, it's a hell of a lot easier to play KPD than KPF. Reckon TDK will make a good defender one day but I can't see it being at Carlton.

Who goes out to make room for Sam though. You end up robbing Peter to Pay Paul a bit.

We've got a top 3 defense in the comp and according to squiggle it's top 2. I don't see the need to change anything.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Who goes out to make room for Sam though. You end up robbing Peter to Pay Paul a bit.

We've got a top 3 defense in the comp and according to squiggle it's top 2. I don't see the need to change anything.

If Kemp and Gov can fulfil the intercept role all good - just a shame we aren’t seeing the best of Weiters.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Totally agree with King - Weiters is being used as a road block.

He used to intercept and deliver by foot beautifully - we are realising 30% of his value.

Floaty interceptors are a dime a dozen. Gun full backs who can do both and stop the bigs and gun forwards are worth way more. Look at the damage teams with two keys do these days. Nobody has enough good defenders to stop Harry + Charlie, Lynch + Riewoldt (before Riewoldt required a walking frame), Kennedy + Darling, Hawkins + Cameron.... These teams are all the successful ones too. It really is awesome that we have one of the few defenders that can nullify one of the two guns in these setups so we can gameplan the other one.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

If Kemp and Gov can fulfil the intercept role all good - just a shame we aren’t seeing the best of Weiters.

I think we are. He's a general. Happy to not.do the flashy stuff. Will defend him to the death. Absolutely love what he does.

 

[Stamos]

Kennedy left out again is doing my head in.

Probably be sub but I just can't fathom how he is not in the 22.

Team balance.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Team balance.

The b word. The new d word.