USA Roe, the evangelicals and the war on choice

[D Mitchell]

reading that the other day legit made me want to get on a plane and go over there and start punching judges and politicians

Judges apply the law. It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it. Her/his Honour may not even like the law but must still apply it. Politicians make the laws but the laws end up being what the electorate will tolerate It looks like you'll have to punch up the electorate, the closing 3 mil of them. Would it be better to initiate a fund to support that poor little girl ? The Cryptkeeper, Bourbons and especiallyCartwright are sure to want to contribute.

 

[Gralin]

Judges apply the law. It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it. Her/his Honour may not even like the law but must still apply it. Politicians make the laws but the laws end up being what the electorate will tolerate It looks like you'll have to punch up the electorate, the closing 3 mil of them. Would it be better to initiate a fund to support that poor little girl ? The Cryptkeeper, Bourbons and especiallyCartwright are sure to want to contribute.

Judges have also overturned legislation that was shit, I'm still punching them

 

[Gralin]

But yes D Mitchell please show us how classy you are by trying to point score on this story

 

[D Mitchell]

Judges have also overturned legislation that was s**t, I'm still punching them

In Common Law jurisdictions, Judges only overturn laws on Constitutional grounds, even in the US and that's ultimately in the Supreme Court. Whilst there's always go-fund-me, better off starting a fund

 

[Crankyhawk]

Judges apply the law. It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it. Her/his Honour may not even like the law but must still apply it. Politicians make the laws but the laws end up being what the electorate will tolerate It looks like you'll have to punch up the electorate, the closing 3 mil of them. Would it be better to initiate a fund to support that poor little girl ? The Cryptkeeper, Bourbons and especiallyCartwright are sure to want to contribute.

Supreme Court judges fabricate the law out of unreasonable interpretation funded by political interests.

 

[D Mitchell]

Supreme Court judges fabricate the law out of unreasonable interpretation funded by political interests.

Interpretation of whatever that is supposed to even mean would cop a 4:3 split in the High Court.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Interpretation of whatever that is supposed to even mean would cop a 4:3 split in the High Court.

Specific example - the ass pull that is the wildly permissive interpretation of the second amendment that discards the well regulated component in favor of guns guns guns

 

[Chief]

It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it.

He's not really going to do it.

 

[Gralin]

He's not really going to do it.

Not in this economy!

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Judges apply the law. It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it. Her/his Honour may not even like the law but must still apply it. Politicians make the laws but the laws end up being what the electorate will tolerate It looks like you'll have to punch up the electorate, the closing 3 mil of them. Would it be better to initiate a fund to support that poor little girl ? The Cryptkeeper, Bourbons and especiallyCartwright are sure to want to contribute.

Judges over there apply whatever "law" they think best aligns to their political beliefs, generally under duress from whatever scumbag politician got them appointed.

Why do you think RvW was overturned? I'll give you a hint, it had nothing to do with the law.

 

[D Mitchell]

Judges over there apply whatever "law" they think best aligns to their political beliefs, generally under duress from whatever scumbag politician got them appointed.

Why do you think RvW was overturned? I'll give you a hint, it had nothing to do with the law.

I had EVERYTHING to do with the law. It was a decision on whether the US Constitution confers a right to abortion. It determined that what was called a fundamental right in Roe v Wade was not a Constitutional right. The issue is back where it should be, in the hands of the legislature, where it is in Australia. Read it yourself, it's available online, look up Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organisation.

 

[Chief]

I had EVERYTHING to do with the law. It was a decision on whether the US Constitution confers a right to abortion. It determined that what was called a fundamental right in Roe v Wade was not a Constitutional right. The issue is back where it should be, in the hands of the legislature, where it is in Australia. Read it yourself, it's available online, look up Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organisation.

Feeling good about the child in Mississippi who was attacked and had to have her baby due to these laws?

 

[Gough]

I had EVERYTHING to do with the law. It was a decision on whether the US Constitution confers a right to abortion. It determined that what was called a fundamental right in Roe v Wade was not a Constitutional right. The issue is back where it should be, in the hands of the legislature, where it is in Australia. Read it yourself, it's available online, look up Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organisation.

Healthcare is basic human right, an abortion is healthcare.

 

[bourbons]

Judges apply the law. It would be unfair to punch a judge, dangerous, too, the local cops would take a dim view of it. Her/his Honour may not even like the law but must still apply it. Politicians make the laws but the laws end up being what the electorate will tolerate It looks like you'll have to punch up the electorate, the closing 3 mil of them. Would it be better to initiate a fund to support that poor little girl ? The Cryptkeeper, Bourbons and especiallyCartwright are sure to want to contribute.

Indeed I would mate, is there a GoFundMe or something? Didn't see any mention in the reporting.

But yes of course, crowd funding the 18 hour round trip/procedure and punching judges are clearly the only 2 reasonable options here, good one

 

[bourbons]

I had EVERYTHING to do with the law. It was a decision on whether the US Constitution confers a right to abortion. It determined that what was called a fundamental right in Roe v Wade was not a Constitutional right. The issue is back where it should be, in the hands of the legislature, where it is in Australia. Read it yourself, it's available online, look up Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organisation.

Might have been good to know that when the people responsible for the decision were directly asked about it prior to being confirmed.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

I had EVERYTHING to do with the law. It was a decision on whether the US Constitution confers a right to abortion. It determined that what was called a fundamental right in Roe v Wade was not a Constitutional right. The issue is back where it should be, in the hands of the legislature, where it is in Australia. Read it yourself, it's available online, look up Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organisation.

BULLSHIT. And the Constitution is load of crap that the intellectually feeble hide behind.

The sooner grubby politicians, idiot whackjob Bible-bashing conservatives and basically everybody else left women the f*** alone to have agency over their own bodies, the better.

In short, it's time people minded their own f***ing business.

 

[D Mitchell]

BULLSHIT. And the Constitution is load of crap that the intellectually feeble hide behind.

The sooner grubby politicians, idiot whackjob Bible-bashing conservatives and basically everybody else left women the f*** alone to have agency over their own bodies, the better.

In short, it's time people minded their own f***ing business.

It's US law. consider taking your own advice ?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

It's US law. consider taking your own advice ?

Whatever whackjob.

What right have you or anybody else to determine what a woman does with her own body?

Go on, tell me about what the US Constitution says. The same document that is directly responsible for 50,000 gun deaths in that country every year. Anybody using that piece of toilet paper as the basis for taking agency away from women is a grub.

 

[Maggie5]

Judges apply the law.

No, Judges interpret the law or in some cases make it up to suit their benefactors or their bias.

eg Roe V Wade

 

[Strange Cat]

reading that the other day legit made me want to get on a plane and go over there and start punching judges and politicians

Personally I wouldn’t stop at the punching

Absolutely disgusting

Sad thing if it was the judges or politicians little daughter that was in that situation they would all bend over backwards to not only get an abortion for her but also make the rapists pay more harshly than usual.

It helps when you’re connected and rich

 

[Strange Cat]

We could shoot a few. Guns are aplenty over there and why risk a broken hand?

It’s a constitutional right after all…well that’s what they tell you anyway again it’s different when the republicans are facing any repercussions

 

[D Mitchell]

Don't you all get sick of pissing in each others' pockets ?

 

[bourbons]

Don't you all get sick of pissing in each others' pockets ?

 

[Gralin]

Don't you all get sick of pissing in each others' pockets ?

Are you happy with the end result for this young girl?
Do you think this law is a good law?
Happy to keep it?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Don't you all get sick of pissing in each others' pockets ?

Not half as sick as I get of having to deal with the morally bereft.