AFL Player 3: Darcy Parish - 'managed' 😱

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Unrestricted free agent 2028 or 2029
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 18, doug85

 

[andleanback]

Parish aint going anywhere

That Geelong list is an unmitigated disaster waiting to happen, will be like the Australia cricket team when Lillee and co all left at the same time.

They even whiffed on the free hit the AFL/GC gave them with pick 7, next selwood my ass.

Parish will to wherever he gets offered the money he wants.

You really judging jhye clark off his first season where he’s been injured? Laughable

 

[citizen-erased]

This.

The amount of s**t posted in this thread as opposed to other player threads is completely disproportionate to his actual effect on the margin.

Darcy was bog average yesterday - at best.
But that is better than most of the squad, though.

Gave him an HM in the mvp thread cos he kept running, which is more than you can say about most.

Im thinking he's gone if he hasnt signed by end of week.

 

[Westlo]

Parish will to wherever he gets offered the money he wants.

You really judging jhye clark off his first season where he’s been injured? Laughable

Half the board were judging Tsatas while he injured so foh with that.

Didn't rate him last year either he's not even vanilla, more like diet vanilla, Gibney and the Pou will be much better so thank **** Geelong got sucked into the next Selwood bullshit

 

[andleanback]

Half the board were judging Tsatas while he injured so foh with that.

Didn't rate him last year either he's not even vanilla, more like diet vanilla, Gibney and the Pou will be much better so thank * Geelong got sucked into the next Selwood bullshit

Well those judging an injured player who hasn’t stepped foot on an afl field are clueless.

Clark is not vanilla is a tough nut. There is a difference from being a toughnut and being a vanilla midfielder. Libba, selwood, butters etc are no vanilla they’re toughnuts. Macrae, Brayshaw parish are vanilla midfielders.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Where did I say it’s an excuse for no cracking in. Everyone should be cracking in, but young players performance will fluctuate. Hobbs had 7 tackles and 18 touches, that’s around about his mark. Parish is one of the highest paid players at the club and contested possession is meant to be what his game is based on. You want to put your hand out for 750+ a week you don’t get to pick and choose when you want to crack in.

Merrett only got going in 2nd half junk time. Up until half time he had 10 touches and 1 tackle... As the captain.

At half time, Parish was our leading possession-getter, leading clearance player and leading tackler. Yet it's Parish who's copping all the shit while Merrett escapes scrutiny? Typical really.

 

[andleanback]

Merrett only got going in 2nd half junk time. Up until half time he had 10 touches and 1 tackle... As the captain.

At half time, Parish was our leading possession-getter, leading clearance player and leading tackler. Yet it's Parish who's copping all the s**t while Merrett escapes scrutiny? Typical really.

Nearly half of parish’s touches in the first half were turnovers, so he might aswell been playing Gws

 

[brain taylor]

parish is good, but not that good, and we don’t have the system/cattle in place to capitalise on his strengths while covering his weaknesses. if the list was built correctly we wouldn’t be in this position, but this is where it’s at and it’s probably easier to let him go than to rearrange the rest of the midfield to fit him in. will probably rip us to shreds for another team, but it’ll say more about their structure/balance/gameplan than darcy.

 

[TheGrizz]

Nearly half of parish’s touches in the first half were turnovers, so he might aswell been playing Gws

Keep changing the goal posts if you need to. You will find a way to blame the 126 points on Parish somehow.

 

[andleanback]

Keep changing the goal posts if you need to. You will find a way to blame the 126 points on Parish somehow.

Lol
That’s not changing the goal posts, just the stats

 

[calyam]

Parish playing: 7 wins / 10 losses / 88%
Parish not playing: 4 wins / 1 loss / 114%

In games where Parish plays we finished 6W-2D-9L in clearances and when he wasn't in the team we finished 2W-2D-1L.

Whatever value that Parish provides directly, it seems as though we have successfully covered for that in the past via other players. That might involve Merrett doing more inside work or younger players taking on more responsibility.

If he decides to move on, I don't think we should shed a tear and we certainly shouldn't break the bank to retain him.

 

[ant555]

real cross roads moment for Adrian Dodoro imho

Not just Parish but BZT, Heppell, AMT, few tough decisions to make

Think you will find Scott will be making the calls on the current players.

 

[Yoda_]

Think you will find Scott will be making the calls on the current players.

I hope so cause change is obviously desperately needed

 

[cobra land]

Oh don’t worry I’m close, but I’ll be more inclined not to if we have the conviction to let Parish go.

Please do and do us a favor and join the tigers or saints who like a bit of good old fashioned microwave action.

 

[ant555]

I hope so cause change is obviously desperately needed

Well I am not going on a limb and saying he will make the right decisions but he will have the call.

 

[DERO]

Lol
That’s not changing the goal posts, just the stats

Carn man

 

[Gabe251]

See ya.

 

[ghostdog]

parish is good, but not that good, and we don’t have the system/cattle in place to capitalise on his strengths while covering his weaknesses. if the list was built correctly we wouldn’t be in this position, but this is where it’s at and it’s probably easier to let him go than to rearrange the rest of the midfield to fit him in. will probably rip us to shreds for another team, but it’ll say more about their structure/balance/gameplan than darcy.

More faith in Caldwell for the future tbh.

 

[boncer34]

Keep changing the goal posts if you need to. You will find a way to blame the 126 points on Parish somehow.

And you'll keep finding ways to excuse him.

And round and round you'll go.

 

[Runk]

This thread got good this week

 

[VelvetSledge]

... 150 games this week

 

[TheGrizz]

And you'll keep finding ways to excuse him.

And round and round you'll go.

I'm not excusing anyone. I already said he was Bog average on Saturday, at best - if you didnt bother to read it.

Just don't see why a disproportionate amount of losses seem to always go on Darcy.
The fact he is out of contract doesn't mean he ought to shoulder a greater amount of blame than anyone else.

 

[boncer34]

I'm not excusing anyone. I already said he was Bog average on Saturday, at best - if you didnt bother to read it.

Just don't see why a disproportionate amount of losses seem to always go on Darcy.
The fact he is out of contract doesn't mean he ought to shoulder a greater amount of blame than anyone else.

I did read it. But it's your second paragraph that I'm referring to, andleanback never put the whole loss on Parish. But you're acting like he did as seen here:

Keep changing the goal posts if you need to. You will find a way to blame the 126 points on Parish somehow.

If you're going to accuse others on being disproportionate maybe dial back your own hyperbole.

 

[Mercurial89]

I'm not excusing anyone. I already said he was Bog average on Saturday, at best - if you didnt bother to read it.

Just don't see why a disproportionate amount of losses seem to always go on Darcy.
The fact he is out of contract doesn't mean he ought to shoulder a greater amount of blame than anyone else.

Whilst I agree with you to a point, you do have to admit that pressure/blame/expectations are placed on players disproportionately in general.

This is often due to being a leader, or being paid a huge sum of money, or by being known as the best player.

Darcy is our prime onballer, is holding his hand out for a massive contract (which he is entitled to I'm not criticising that action) and he is one of our "leaders".
The whole parish trade debate silliness aside, the expectations on him are higher. When he does not meet those the noise is going to be louder.
Unfortunately, as is often the case, with good-decent players they do attract harsher criticism when they fall off slightly, and they don't attract the same praise when they overperform.

Some of the negativity for Darcy is overboard.
However some of the defence of him has been also overboard.

 

[TheGrizz]

Whilst I agree with you to a point, you do have to admit that pressure/blame/expectations are placed on players disproportionately in general.

This is often due to being a leader, or being paid a huge sum of money, or by being known as the best player.

Darcy is our prime onballer, is holding his hand out for a massive contract (which he is entitled to I'm not criticising that action) and he is one of our "leaders".
The whole parish trade debate silliness aside, the expectations on him are higher. When he does not meet those the noise is going to be louder.
Unfortunately, as is often the case, with good-decent players they do attract harsher criticism when they fall off slightly, and they don't attract the same praise when they overperform.

Some of the negativity for Darcy is overboard.
However some of the defence of him has been also overboard.

I would cop this if other senior players copped the same heat.

Merrett had 10 disposals, 2 contested possessions and 0 tackles to half time - and he is the literal captain if you want to talk about leaders and highly paid players. I haven't seen his thread light up.

I hate that I feel like I am forced to take a more pro-Parish position than I actually have, but some of the dross that gets spouted in this thread from week to week is just mind boggling.

Darcy didn't play well on the weekend. He was soft in the contest on multiple occasions, didn't buy in defensively and had some shocking turnovers. No one is arguing different.

But he wasn't robinson crusoe on Saturday, almost everyone, including the rest of our midfield, was exactly the same.
For the majority of the year Darcy has been what he is, a very good (not elite) midfielder with some elite traits and some flaws that stick out.
Why he would cop more heat from Saturday than anyone else because of his contract (over someone like Merrett or McGrath who were equally poor or worse) just boggles my mind.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I would cop this if other senior players copped the same heat.

Merrett had 10 disposals, 2 contested possessions and 0 tackles to half time - and he is the literal captain if you want to talk about leaders and highly paid players. I haven't seen his thread light up.

I hate that I feel like I am forced to take a more pro-Parish position than I actually have, but some of the dross that gets spouted in this thread from week to week is just mind boggling.

Darcy didn't play well on the weekend. He was soft in the contest on multiple occasions, didn't buy in defensively and had some shocking turnovers. No one is arguing different.

But he wasn't robinson crusoe on Saturday, almost everyone, including the rest of our midfield, was exactly the same.
For the majority of the year Darcy has been what he is, a very good (not elite) midfielder with some elite traits and some flaws that stick out.
Why he would cop more heat from Saturday than anyone else because of his contract (over someone like Merrett or McGrath who were equally poor or worse) just boggles my mind.

You are not wrong, but I suppose when you have yet to sign a new deal with the club, and the rumored reason is because Darcy thinks he's worth more. You are going to place a bigger target on yourself IMO.

Redman has played complete dog shit since he signed with us. And I'm pretty confident if he was still unsigned, he would be copping it too.

Junior whilst was bad, was also tagged. Hard to break that tag if the rest of your mids are serving up dog shit.