Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Sticksman]

Good result. At worst, he’s good insurance. At best , maybe he has a renaissance.

I'm impressed with the comments from his agent Tim Lawrence.

Lawrence mentions Brandan's weakness, "“He’s working really hard on his running capacity, we reckon it can be better,” he said. “If you’ve got a problem with the way you play or what you’re doing, it’s going to catch up with you again anyway. You’ve got to sort this stuff out, you can’t run away from it.”

As his manager is holding up a mirror for him I'm expecting some real nose to the grindstone effort. Is he capable of that commitment and can he maintain it? It remains to be seen but it's now make or break time.

 

[year of the cat]

He’ll be long gone before pick 40.

I agree. Could go anywhere from 15-25 you’d think unless the clubs are worried about go home factors.

There was a Clayton Collard from WA that was drafted back in 2006. Same draft as Selwood. I assume some relation?

 

[rocker_oz33]

Pick 3 compo for Ben Mac ...

Oh my lord ...

 

[rocker_oz33]

It doesn’t inspire me with a lot of confidence that Parfitt looked at the 17 other clubs’ midfields and thought his best chance of a game was with Geelong……

Pafitt got a role with us .

If he wants it ..really wants it

 

[foxdog50]

I'd be keen to add Will Gould for free, would be decent backup, was keen on him in his draft year

Who would people rather?
Tim O'Brien or Will Gould?

 

[Lana]

I don't see the need to draft a ruck this year but the ruck economy has changed quite a bit. Teams don't carry surplus rucks on the list anymore so it is not like back in the day when Cox, Sandilands, Jacobs and Mumford all came off the rookie list.

Gawn - pick 34
Darcy - pick 38
English - pick 19
Grundy - pick 18
Goldstein - pick 37
De Koning - pick 30

Taking Conway at pick 24 is basically the sweet spot to get a good ruck via the draft these days

If you extend this further not too many of the ruckmen who played regularly at AFL level this year cost their team much in draft capital whether at the draft or via trade.

Other than Jackson, it looks like English at pick 19 is the 2nd most expensive. Stanley with 21 out and 59 back could be number 3.

Looking at a list of 29 players who played at least 8 games and average 17.5 hitouts. You have a bunch that were essentially mid pick 30s and a bunch from trash national and rookie picks.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Who would people rather?
Tim O'Brien or Will Gould? View attachment 1827623

Gould been a bench warmer for fantasy teams last few years .

 

[year of the cat]

If we are relying on either for any length of time we are rooted so it makes little difference. At least O’Brien has been able to forge a 100 game career so on that basis I’d prefer him.

 

[Lana]

I'd be keen to add Will Gould for free, would be decent backup, was keen on him in his draft year

What is his story, I remember him being talked up pre-draft as a ready to go manchild who could debut round 1.

 

[BORIS332]

Who would people rather?
Tim O'Brien or Will Gould? View attachment 1827623

Connor O’Sullivan

 

[FredLeDeux]

I'm impressed with the comments from his agent Tim Lawrence.

Lawrence mentions Brandan's weakness, "“He’s working really hard on his running capacity, we reckon it can be better,” he said. “If you’ve got a problem with the way you play or what you’re doing, it’s going to catch up with you again anyway. You’ve got to sort this stuff out, you can’t run away from it.”

As his manager is holding up a mirror for him I'm expecting some real nose to the grindstone effort. Is he capable of that commitment and can he maintain it? It remains to be seen but it's now make or break time.

Two questions
1. If Parfitt doesn't think he can make it in the midfield for the other 17 clubs, why does he think he can do it at Geelong?
2. Who was the last player who started to work on an aerobic deficiency after 120 games, and did it successfully?

 

[fpm84]

 

[FootyLad0]

Connor O’Sullivan

Ditto

 

[BORIS332]

Two questions
1. If Parfitt doesn't think he can make it in the midfield for the other 17 clubs, why does he think he can do it at Geelong?
2. Who was the last player who started to work on an aerobic deficiency after 120 games, and did it successfully?

Did you really read that article and interpret it as Parf thinking he can’t make it into any AFL midfield?

 

[Vdubs]

It doesn’t inspire me with a lot of confidence that Parfitt looked at the 17 other clubs’ midfields and thought his best chance of a game was with Geelong……

Reality though- we are the worst MF this season, for injury reasons, but what he says is true, the grass may not be greener elsewhere.
Good that we have him for 24 anyway, big chance he proves his worth, has a real breakout season, at worst, good depth.
At least he looks to be starting 24 with more running capacity.

 

[Vdubs]

Two questions
1. If Parfitt doesn't think he can make it in the midfield for the other 17 clubs, why does he think he can do it at Geelong?
2. Who was the last player who started to work on an aerobic deficiency after 120 games, and did it successfully?

1. Because we need him. Simple.
2. It's not that he is just starting to work on it, it has now become the preseason 24 agenda for him. He would have always done the required running preseason, but 23 , like ALL our team, was probably below par.
And I recall Luke Hodge really making a concerted effort in his latter Hawks preseasons to lose weight and increase his running programme, and even had a running coach. Never too late.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Did you really read that article and interpret it as Parf thinking he can’t make it into any AFL midfield?

Yes, but only because that's what he said.

 

[FredLeDeux]

1. Because we need him. Simple.
2. It's not that he is just starting to work on it, it has now become the preseason 24 agenda for him. He would have always done the required running preseason, but 23 , like ALL our team, was probably below par.
And I recall Luke Hodge really making a concerted effort in his latter Hawks preseasons to lose weight and increase his running programme, and even had a running coach. Never too late.

A glaring weakness throughout his career is what his manager actually said.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Reality though- we are the worst MF this season, for injury reasons, but what he says is true, the grass may not be greener elsewhere.
Good that we have him for 24 anyway, big chance he proves his worth, has a real breakout season, at worst, good depth.
At least he looks to be starting 24 with more running capacity.

Ours mids sucked mega ...this year ..
Inj and few soldiers down on output

 

[Mr Meow]

why are you not endorphinised by that?

Because it is simply expected to happen and it won't feel like any kind of bonus, relief or bullet dodged.

Bingo.

 

[cats_09]

PORT FORWARD UNDERGOES MEDICAL​

OUT-OF-CONTRACT small forward Orazio Fantasia has undergone a medical with Greater Western Sydney as he looks to extend his AFL career.

The 28-year-old is yet to secure a new deal at Port Adelaide after managing just four appearances across the past two seasons for a total of 19 games since moving from Essendon at the end of 2020.

Greater Western Sydney has met with Fantasia, but the Giants aren't expected to have any list spots available to trade for him or sign him as a delisted free agent at the start of November, with the club interested in adding a mature-age player via the Rookie Draft.

 

[And_ROOS]

1. Because we need him. Simple.
2. It's not that he is just starting to work on it, it has now become the preseason 24 agenda for him. He would have always done the required running preseason, but 23 , like ALL our team, was probably below par.
And I recall Luke Hodge really making a concerted effort in his latter Hawks preseasons to lose weight and increase his running programme, and even had a running coach. Never too late.

I wonder if Stevie J upped his running before his transition around 2012/2013 from gun forward to gun midfielder. I would assume he did.

 

[Mr Meow]

I wonder how many games in total we get out of Stanley, Rohan (who I believe are our twin barometers) and Cameron.
All are injury prone.

You are onto something here.

Interestingly we had a negative win/loss ratio in 2023 when either missed, that went up to 50% when Stanley played and 8-1-6 when Rohan played. 9-1-6 for Duncan. I have no doubt the records would have been similar for Dangerfield and Cameron, but those two quite obviously dragged themselves through injuries rather than having the requisite (managed) time off.

Our veterans remain very important and all except Rohan played more games at 100% in 2022. Collingwood had a similarly blessed run with their veterans this season. Let's hope lady luck is on our side.

 

[foxdog50]

This is all of us , waiting for a deal involving Geelong in Trade Week

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Who would people rather?
Tim O'Brien or Will Gould? View attachment 1827623

Personally id take Obrien - he had alot of talent re his Haw days - inconsistent - but at Geel - skillfull sort of side he might go good - dont know what happened at Footscray - Markov is no worldbeater but he went from Tigerland to the Suns ( no good at all ) to Coll - where he is now a Premiership player

Re Obrien - there is some Nth Melb player - key position player ive forgotten his name - he allways played well against the Cats - a teaser like Obrien - but Nth delisted him - and another team picked him up - and i thought he did all right - and i can remember thinking i wouldnt have minded him at Geel

You have to have talent and i reckon Obrien has got some