Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Gee Class Loco]

8 is too early for koltyn and 30s is too late.
I think he will go late r1 but we dont have a pick in that range

Whether it's too early or late is irrelevant when u only have THAT pick.
It makes me laugh when folks say...
"Player A went 5 picks early"
Or
"Player B could of been had 10 picks later"
Really doesn't come into play if the team hasn't got that other pick or even a later pick.
If he is rated by Wells & Co as the 7th or 8th ranked player that all that matters not what ESPN or Cal Twomey or whoever does their own player rankings reckon.
I don't really care who we get TBH.
Just as long he's a good one i'll be happy.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

The Schultz trade seems expensive... I know he's a decent player.

But maybe they must be thinking of offloading Ginnivan.

Bargain really.
Instant starter, instant upgrade to an already premiership team.
Windows close quick. Sometimes a lot quicker than u realise.

 

[moond0g]

Pick 8 for two future first from a team that just won the flag and another that finished top 3? Spew

I'd do that for sure.

Firstly, they can't improve on this year's positions, there's only one way for them to go. Regression to the mean get's everyone, eventually.
Secondly, the fact that they're tied to two separate clubs means there's twice the chance that at least one of them is a slider next year.

 

[bombersboy]

From that list Bruhn and Bowes are effectively regulars now. You’d expect them to play every game bar injury. Clark and Knevitt I’d hope to make the next step and play 12-15 games if their form warrants. Dempsey might be squeezed unless he can play wing perhaps replacing Smith. Id like to see him tried there.

Mullin and Clohesy are a way off. Unless they develop substantially over the off season I can’t see either playing too often. If they get 2-4 games then they’ve probably done well.

I probably expect Mullin to play more. Think he will improve over the summer and he is physically ready.

 

[Del216647]

Whether it's too early or late is irrelevant when u only have THAT pick.
It makes me laugh when folks say...
"Player A went 5 picks early"
Or
"Player B could of been had 10 picks later"
Really doesn't come into play if the team hasn't got that other pick or even a later pick.
If he is rated by Wells & Co as the 7th or 8th ranked player that all that matters not what ESPN or Cal Twomey or whoever does their own player rankings reckon.
I don't really care who we get TBH.
Just as long he's a good one i'll be happy.

Yep. Our list manager, Andrew Mackie is actually a case in point. One of many. Taken at pick 7, many 'experts' had him nowhere near a first round candidate...

I'd put my house on the fact that when when look back on this draft in a few years, there will be players drafted well outside this elite top 8 that go on to have better careers than many of the top 8 / 10 selected.

 

[Turbocat]

So ...if we do not move on Sav... and Port dont move ..... does he get thru to 25/30 in the draft ... and Port take him with the pick they are offering?

 

[Turbocat]

Whether it's too early or late is irrelevant when u only have THAT pick.
It makes me laugh when folks say...
"Player A went 5 picks early"
Or
"Player B could of been had 10 picks later"
Really doesn't come into play if the team hasn't got that other pick or even a later pick.
If he is rated by Wells & Co as the 7th or 8th ranked player that all that matters not what ESPN or Cal Twomey or whoever does their own player rankings reckon.
I don't really care who we get TBH.
Just as long he's a good one i'll be happy.

Its a perceieved late or early pick... as their true rating doesn't happen till the draft ... and then one sees years down the track if it was value or not.

Any idea on the combine times for KT?



On the other kid... 193cm forward. Not sure. Mark and kick highlights tell us little.

 

[BORIS332]

Yep. Our list manager, Andrew Mackie is actually a case in point. One of many. Taken at pick 7, many 'experts' had him nowhere near a first round candidate...

I'd put my house on the fact that when when look back on this draft in a few years, there will be players drafted well outside this elite top 8 that go on to have better careers than many of the top 8 / 10 selected.

And he ended up playing more AFL games than all but three players from his draft, with Tom Lonergan not far behind. Pretty incredible scouting.

 

[BORIS332]

So ...if we do not move on Sav... and Port dont move ..... does he get thru to 25/30 in the draft ... and Port take him with the pick they are offering?

Most likely.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

So ...if we do not move on Sav... and Port dont move ..... does he get thru to 25/30 in the draft ... and Port take him with the pick they are offering?

I reckon Nth are a chance of picking him up.

 

[Turbo911]

What’s stopping us from offering someone a future 2nd to get in before Ports first pick & just redraft him?
Re Sav

 

[Rosso]

If it gets to Wednesday afternoon I'm backing a bit of future pick swapping gets the deal done. Like our F2nd for Freos F2nd & 25. It'll get done.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

What’s stopping us from offering someone a future 2nd to get in before Ports first pick & just redraft him?
Re Sav

Nothing.

 

[gogeelongcats]

I reckon Nth are a chance of picking him up.

If clubs are willing to pay what is rumoured then he is worth more than what we are being offered.

 

[AM]

I probably expect Mullin to play more. Think he will improve over the summer and he is physically ready.

I suspect the club had an eye for the future by playing Oisin before he was ready because they realised we need leg speed in the back half - not only there btw.

 

[OzeSparky]

And he ended up playing more AFL games than all but three players from his draft, with Tom Lonergan not far behind. Pretty incredible scouting.

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Tom Lonergan at pick 23 was a ripper selection.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

If clubs are willing to pay what is rumoured then he is worth more than what we are being offered.

Port should have have kept their F1 and offered that.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Tom Lonergan at pick 23 was a ripper selection.

It was moreso extremely good development to turn him into a defender.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Tom Lonergan at pick 23 was a ripper selection.

Best example of what Sav could become.

At the end of 2009 Lonergan looked like a failed forward being tried as a defender and struggling. 25. Career on the brink. Then he gave us 8 years as a quality full back including a premiership.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

So ...if we do not move on Sav... and Port dont move ..... does he get thru to 25/30 in the draft ... and Port take him with the pick they are offering?

No id say nm or haw or a similar club gets him.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

It was moreso extremely good development to turn him into a defender.

Took a lot longer than people would remember. Was a whipping boy for a while.
Played in a great era with plenty of AA and Club greats which helped.

 

[moond0g]

So ...if we do not move on Sav... and Port dont move ..... does he get thru to 25/30 in the draft ... and Port take him with the pick they are offering?

almost certainly

 

[ShaunWDT]

Nodody is using a top 20 pick on a guy that doesnt want to be at their club, Sav would be a certainty to get to Port.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Sav would get through to Port, nobody is going to use a top 20 pick and commit to paying big money for a guy that doesnt want to be there.

And some have spent a pick 1 with the same sort of scenario...

Adelaide Crows would use pick 20 outta spite.
Win Win for them.
That Doodle comp pick goes on the Esava acquisition.
lol. That would up the ante on what is currently the best rivalry in the AFL.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Nodody is using a top 20 pick on a guy that doesnt want to be at their club, Sav would be a certainty to get to Port.

Nth Melbourne #15, #17, #18.

Plus #2 and #3. Already brimming with young talent, have plenty of SC and in desperate need of a key back to replace McKay who left and Logue who will miss most of next year.