Traded Jack Ginnivan [Traded with #39, F2 & F4 to Hawthorn for #33, F2 & F3]

[Daka]

Pies are smart they know value wise this is the most they can get for him.
I agree he isn't worth that much he played a lot of VFL this season, but a desperate club may overpay for him.

 

[Proud New Father of 3]

Straight swap for Mitch Lewis if we deal with Hawthorn.

Win win imo for both clubs.

 

[Chronz]

Straight swap for Mitch Lewis if we deal with Hawthorn.

Win win imo for both clubs.

Yep. Very fair trade if a bit overs for the pies.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Everyone else is saying they are not keen but I'd honestly be interested at Hawthorn.

Brockman gone, Wingard injured and Breust has 1 year left. Can probably get him for a 3rd rounder or so and I'd be open to seeing if we can make something of him - eradicating the ducking and get him playing decent footy.

Worth a shot with some of what he showed in 2022.

 

[RUNVS]

Would Hawthorn really lower itself so much it would be willing to trade for Ginnivan?

 

[faible]

Everyone else is saying they are not keen but I'd honestly be interested at Hawthorn.

Brockman gone, Wingard injured and Breust has 1 year left. Can probably get him for a 3rd rounder or so and I'd be open to seeing if we can make something of him - eradicating the ducking and get him playing decent footy.

Worth a shot with some of what he showed in 2022.

2022 Goals 40 (avg 1.7), Free Kicks 32 (1.4).
2023 Goals 12 (0.9), Free Kicks 5 (0.4).

Almost like the only thing he really had was the ducking.

 

[Proud New Father of 3]

Yep. Very fair trade if a bit overs for the pies.

We do our bit to get players where they want to be, sometimes that means taking unders but I'm happy with that.

No point holding a bloke hostage if a fair deal is on the table #generousclub

 

[HarryBeef]

F3 should get it done quite easily you'd imagine.

 

[Madblue]

it happens. Not everyone has great GF games. Did some nice things, and if he kicked those goals nobody would bat an eye.

As I said, he did nothing

 

[adammania9]

Supporters who don't want him are thinking with their hearts, not their heads. 40 goals as a 19 year old - 5 in front of 85k on ANZAC Day, 3 in a sudden-death final, 3 in a must win last round match against Carlton to make top four. Dead eye dick in front of the sticks too. Pressure does not overwhelm him.

Four times this year he was activated as sub too late to have any impact on the game. Still pulled up 21 combined goals and assists in his remaining 10 games.

He is a ripping forward talent. With baggage, yes. Worth the risk.

 

[Madblue]

Just watch all the Pies supporters turn on him if he gets traded....

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Knows how to find the goals so would be interested depending on the asking price.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

2022 Goals 40 (avg 1.7), Free Kicks 32 (1.4).
2023 Goals 12 (0.9), Free Kicks 5 (0.4).

Almost like the only thing he really had was the ducking.

Yes, I get that and would be why he should be much cheaper this year than he would have been last year.

However, I suspect deeper analysis would reveal that not all of those free kicks resulted in goals and that the ones from goals would only be in the 10-15 category.

Even if he only had a 25-30 goal season (once you take out goals from frees) as a 19 year old small forward, it would suggest some underlying talent to work with.

Baggage - yes, plenty to work on - yes but still some talent to hopefully work with and develop, for the right price.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Let me be the first to say that the way this boy has been treated by the AFL and their umpiring department has been absolutely ridiculous, and I look forward to him getting a completely new lease of life in the beautiful colors that are the Premiership Gold and the Earthly Brown.

 

[Daka]

Just watch all the Pies supporters turn on him if he gets traded....

How ironic would it be if ducks & gets a free kick versus the Pies lol

 

[hawkman]

Let me be the first to say that the way this boy has been treated by the AFL and their umpiring department has been absolutely ridiculous, and I look forward to him getting a completely new lease of life in the beautiful colors that are the Premiership Gold and the Earthly Brown.

Just don't check your posting history

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Supporters who don't want him are thinking with their hearts, not their heads. 40 goals as a 19 year old - 5 in front of 85k on ANZAC Day, 3 in a sudden-death final, 3 in a must win last round match against Carlton to make top four. Dead eye dick in front of the sticks too. Pressure does not overwhelm him.

Four times this year he was activated as sub too late to have any impact on the game. Still pulled up 21 combined goals and assists in his remaining 10 games.

He is a ripping forward talent. With baggage, yes. Worth the risk.

I really rate him and would be very happy if he came to Hawthorn.
In my opinion he's worth our future 2nd
However not sure we can trade that out with other possible deals unless we get your f2nd back.

 

[HairyO]

Just watch all the Pies supporters turn on him if he gets traded....

Yeah the anger at Stephenson despite him being turfed out by the club was baffling.

 

[10571z]

Everyone else is saying they are not keen but I'd honestly be interested at Hawthorn.

Brockman gone, Wingard injured and Breust has 1 year left. Can probably get him for a 3rd rounder or so and I'd be open to seeing if we can make something of him - eradicating the ducking and get him playing decent footy.

Worth a shot with some of what he showed in 2022.

Why would we trade a contracted forward who kicked 40 goals last year and played in the premiership for a third rounder who most likely won’t be anything.

 

[SSSSSS]

Destination club.

 

[kreglze]

Consistent with the Hawthorn strategy of putting an offer to every player available.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Would Hawthorn really lower itself so much it would be willing to trade for Ginnivan?

Brockman gone and Wingard out for the year. Hell yeah!

Another obsessive Hawks fan as a kid. Just like Bailey Smith

Buddy still paying dividends.

 

[hawkman]

Why would we trade a contracted forward who kicked 40 goals last year and played in the premiership for a third rounder who most likely won’t be anything.

He was in the 22 for just 9 games this year and is likely to have even less opportunities with Schultz coming in. F3 is probably unders but F2 would be overs

 

[adammania9]

I really rate him and would be very happy if he came to Hawthorn.
In my opinion he's worth our future 2nd
However not sure we can trade that out with other possible deals unless we get your f2nd back.

Provided you keep your future first, you can trade all other future picks if you want. Geelong did that last year.

I'd be surprised if Massimo involved a future second. Gunston cartainly won't. I agree your future second is pretty much bang on right now.