List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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[eaglevision]

Perhaps next time you should post the entire quote for context rather than simply saying he said he wants to stay in WA

You’re the one denying he said it, do your own research before making yet another ignorant comment, it’s embarrassing.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

"Do your own research"

That $ure take$ me back to 2020.

 

[ZergMinion]

"Do your own research"

That $ure take$ me back to 2020.

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[Wooshaaaa]

The AFL isn't just going to take him from us, the team would need to trade for him and seeing as they'll have a million top 20 picks over a 2 years period we'd do just fine.

He won't be a free agent free to be poached.

You're literally worrying about nothing. It's years away. Any player at any point could be targeted, heck we take Reid and maybe Tassie targets him with a massive deal.

I tend to agree with you. I think the point people are trying to make is that so much has been made of reid wanting to stay in Victoria but little media attention or public attention to the Tassie return home eventuality for some players already in the system.

In other words as confident as you might be that both kids will be loyal, their is an argument that neither is more or less likely to go home. It's the same as here Victoria, noone seemingly worried about Curtin as a flight risk!

In the end the three yr contract for first rounders was put in place to curb this a bit.

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[Wooshaaaa]

Calling one 18 year old more of a flight risk than another 18 year old before they have even made the move is a bit nonsensical.

Not even the players would know as they haven't experienced it yet.

And yet the only one anyone talks about being a flight risk is the number one pick to us.

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[Keys]

FWIW, I don’t think the 3 year contracts for the top 20 picks will have much bearing on players being a flight risk. Players asking for a trade mid contract is already a thing. JHF was only at North for a year and Kelly asked for a trade (unsuccessfully) after a year also

What the 3 year contract does do is give the club some protection so the threat of the PSD is removed and they can refuse a trade if there’s no reasonable trade offer

If/when we draft Reid, clubs will come hard for him after 2 years knowing that if WCE haven’t extended him by then they may look at a trade whilst holding some leverage. Especially if there’s been no signs of improvement

 

[pantskyle]

FWIW, I don’t think the 3 year contracts for the top 20 picks will have much bearing on players being a flight risk. Players asking for a trade mid contract is already a thing. JHF was only at North for a year and Kelly asked for a trade (unsuccessfully) after a year also

What the 3 year contract does do is give the club some protection so the threat of the PSD is removed and they can refuse a trade if there’s no reasonable trade offer

If/when we draft Reid, clubs will come hard for him after 2 years knowing that if WCE haven’t extended him by then they may look at a trade whilst holding some leverage. Especially if there’s been no signs of improvement

If it's Reid all the Eagles can do is extend as soon as possible, if he shows the signs we hope next season upgrade and extend before the season ends.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Board Phantom draft - I'm in like Matthew Flynn.

 

[CountryLad]

Board Phantom draft - I'm in like Matthew Flynn.

With pick one West Coast take Daniel Curtin
Would have to do it just for the reaction.

Happy to be in on a Phantom draft too.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

It's an absolute given that the AFL will be pushing these top Tasmanian kids to join the new franchise.

There's the feel good factor and it will fast track the franchise success if they bring in high end talent ready to peak.

Whether McKercher wants to or not, the offer will be too good to refuse.

McKercher won't be a free agent when the Tasmanian team comes in so they will need to compensate us accordingly.

Unless the afl stitches us up and gives them compo picks for players like they did with GC and GWS .

If that is the case we can just try to contract him until after they enter the comp

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

FWIW, I don’t think the 3 year contracts for the top 20 picks will have much bearing on players being a flight risk. Players asking for a trade mid contract is already a thing. JHF was only at North for a year and Kelly asked for a trade (unsuccessfully) after a year also

What the 3 year contract does do is give the club some protection so the threat of the PSD is removed and they can refuse a trade if there’s no reasonable trade offer

If/when we draft Reid, clubs will come hard for him after 2 years knowing that if WCE haven’t extended him by then they may look at a trade whilst holding some leverage. Especially if there’s been no signs of improvement

I can also see first round draftees waiting 2 years before extending to see how things are going .

No more of these instant 2 year extensions

 

[Keys]

I can also see first round draftees waiting 2 years before extending to see how things are going .

No more of these instant 2 year extensions

Agreed

The CBA allows for incentives in the 3rd year so players that impact early, like Daicos, can be paid their worth

Player agents will be holding off until we’ll into the 2nd year before talking contract extensions to gauge interest from other clubs and maximising the pay for year 3 onwards in a new contract

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Agreed on Curtin, he’s said that publicly too but he’s also said he’d love to stay in WA. The Tassie team stuff has ticked all the boxes including at state and federal government level, they are selling foundation memberships next year, it’s definitely happening. Spot on McKercher can’t wait to get out of there currently, but if you told him you’d pay him $2.5m a year to stay (if a team existed currently) then I reckon the answer changes. If in 2026/2027 we are still in the situation we are in now then sure, we get the #1 pick if McKercher’s career goes as projected. However I see us knocking on the door of the 8 at the very least at that point and if we end up with some bs like what the Hawks got for Buddy due to their success then I think that’s something that has to be considered.

So we’ve gone from not even been drafted to a $2.5m contract and an AFL captain!!

 

[Carbine Chaos]

If people are willing to wait until this afternoon I'm happy to organise the mock draft.

 

[Bender_]

Whoever gets West Coast/pick 1 can you please bid on every academy and F/S prospect?

And then trade it to NM.

 

[Wce17]

Reid is more of a flight risk than McKercher is. Reid has actually told Vic teams in interviews he prefers to stay in Victoria, McKercher is keen to leave Tasmania.

Yeah I agree. It annoys me greatly when people say we shouldn't draft Mckercher because he's a "flight risk" but at the same time they are happy to take Reid & downplay it.

 

[Keys]

If people are willing to wait until this afternoon I'm happy to organise the mock draft.

Thanks for offering CC but just put the thread up before seeing this post

Link here

Competitions - WCE Board Mock Draft 2023

Draft Order and Selections ROUND 1 : 1. West Coast - Harley Reid 2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter (Matched bid) 3. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher 4. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma 5. Hawthorn - Connor O’Sullivan 6. Western Bulldogs - Ryley Sanders 7. Melbourne - Daniel Curtin 8. Gold Coast -...

www.bigfooty.com

Meant to do it last night but got sidetracked

 

[BartBart]

I can’t possibly have a source for a decision that will be made in 2026/2027. I’ve posted this in a different thread but the AFL will offer McKercher whatever amount of money it takes outside the salary cap to head down to Tassie and skipper the team. He will go. I don’t care what he, his management or the AFL says now it will happen. It is FAR more likely Reid is a one club player than McKercher.

That's why I've said all the NM picks they were given were to draft the Tassie boys - not go after Reid.

Then it is a simple shift of NM down to Tassie.

 

[ThePuma #9]

If it's Reid all the Eagles can do is extend as soon as possible, if he shows the signs we hope next season upgrade and extend before the season ends.

God knows we're going to have a lot of cash to splash around. I wouldn't be against paying overs to secure a long term deal.

Similar to what Gold Coast did with Ben King.

Seek a two year extension but as a gesture of goodwill throw a bit extra his way for year 3 and then back end a good chunk to year 5.

 

[Doashuey]

Can I have Brisbane please.

After considering your request we suggest a compromise.
You may participate in the WCE draft but you can have Port.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

ORLY?

FMac one out in the square, Masten taking intercept clunks. Those were the days

 

[LittleFires]

Wonder when (if?) we'll hear from the club about Zane Trew's contract.

First list lodgement was apparently yesterday and there were all sorts of announcements from clubs about finalising their lists ahead of the draft. Was reported that Trew had been given a one-year rookie deal but nothing from the club on that yet. Surely this would be a pretty simple deal to tick off?

Would also be nice to hear about what's going to happen with our Cat Bs Tyrell Dewar and Jordyn Baker.

Especially with training starting again next week for 1st-4th year players

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Wonder when (if?) we'll hear from the club about Zane Trew's contract.

Media team still coasting on the Kevin James meme credits in the bank.

 

[ArdentEagle]

If people are willing to wait until this afternoon I'm happy to organise the mock draft.

 

[Obeanie1]

Whats in 6 years?

Tasmanian team likely 1st season.