Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

[Hoops]

Surely being offended by it subconsciously says the same thing. You think its wrong to get so worked up when someone says a school yard throwaway slur...

People are only upset at what was said, not who it was directed at.

 

[Bostonian]

Do you reckon if bigfooty was available back in the day some of our grandfathers would be on here outraged that they couldn't call black people the N word anymore?

I don't think you know anything about Australia back in the day.

Because we didn't use that word in Australia back in the day.

It had no history here.

 

[burge13]

People are only upset at what was said, not who it was directected at.

Makes what I said even more valid then tbh. Why be offended if you don't think it's a bad thing

 

[Hoops]

Hoops:

Even if it is used towards a straight person, do you think others around the scene are deaf?? There are spectators, other players and umpires who may be gay and have also heard the unacceptable language. Leads to a tense 'it could be me next time' scenario in the heads of others. Not good enough!!

I think you misread my views on this or I have not been clear. I agree with you

 

[Hoops]

Makes what I said even more valid then tbh. Why be offended if you don't think it's a bad thing

Because it's said as a slur. This isn't complicated.
If someone come up to me and said, I didn't realise you are married to a woman I thought you were gay, I would not be offended in the slightest. If they called me a f***** because I cut them off in my car, I would find that offensive to gay people, though I would personally not be offended.

 

[JimmyBC]

I don't think you know anything about Australia back in the day.

Because we didn't use that word in Australia back in the day.

It had no history here.

Americans have destroyed everything from education to cheese & context in this country

 

[Drought Break]

I also didn't know Clarko got fined for using the word Csucker, that's nuts. If a player uses the word motherf does the local mothers group get upset and does he recieve a fine as well?

Luckily Samuel L Jackson is not an AFL player. Poor bugger would rack up a million in fines per season.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

The higher rate of suicide in LGBT community means this is all crap.

Correlation does not equal causation

100% of people who breath oxygen die, that doesn't make oxygen toxic

 

[iameviljez]

I don't think you know anything about Australia back in the day.

Because we didn't use that word in Australia back in the day.

It had no history here.

This is completely untrue. We certainly did.

Back a few years ago, Queensland went through its database and found it had 10 place names that used the N-word (N-word Creek, Mount N-Word, etc).

I remember a furore about a stand in Toowoomba being named the "N-word Brown" stand, after a player's nickname, based ironically on his pasty white skin.

Absolutely we used that word in Australia. It's not a stain on you, or me, as individuals, but collectively we can't pretend it didn't happen.

 

[justlookingaround]

I don't think you know anything about Australia back in the day.

Because we didn't use that word in Australia back in the day.

It had no history here.

Got thrown around a lot while I was at school in the 00s.
I was lucky enough to have a mum who would've beat the shit out of me* if I ever used a racial slur.
*figuratively speaking

 

[Engimal v3]

Guaranteed the least offended people out there are going to be actual gay people.

From my experience, the average gay person is mentally tougher and more resilient than the average straight. I’m sure 99% will just roll their eyes and not give it another thought.

I’m more interested in people’s need to go into battle for gays because a footballer happened to say a bad word. To me, this says more about your own homophobia. Like, how weak and pathetic do you really think gays are that they need you, big brave hetero, to protect them from hearing nasty words?

Such a strange thing to post when there's been gay people posting in this thread that it's not on.

Very "I've got a gay mate so I'm an authority" lol

 

[3207]

This is completely untrue. We certainly did.

Back a few years ago, Queensland went through its database and found it had 10 place names that used the N-word (N-word Creek, Mount N-Word, etc).

I remember a furore about a stand in Toowoomba being named the "N-word Brown" stand, after a player's nickname, based ironically on his pasty white skin.

Absolutely we used that word in Australia. It's not a stain on you, or me, as individuals, but collectively we can't pretend it didn't happen.

Nearly every second black greyhound had the “N” prefix in its racing name from the 40’s - 60’s

Was definitely used - Everywhere.

 

[iameviljez]

Such a strange thing to post when there's been gay people posting in this thread that it's not on.

Very "I've got a gay mate so I'm an authority" lol

Not to mention that there's a difference between those with the personality and support to deal with being out of the closet, and those who are firmly stuck in it.

 

[iameviljez]

Nearly every second black greyhound had the “N” prefix in its racing name from the 40’s - 60’s

Was definitely used - Everywhere.

Wasn't there some furore about a plaque for a black dog being named exactly that about a decade ago?

 

[3207]

Wasn't there some furore about a plaque for a black dog being named exactly that about a decade ago?

Not that I recall mate but wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[iameviljez]

Not that I recall mate but wouldn’t be surprised.

"It was his name!"
"YES, AND WHY WAS IT HIS NAME?"

Ed: Can't find it online, but can find a similar issue with a plaque for the dog of one of the Dambusters.

 

[justlookingaround]

Guaranteed the least offended people out there are going to be actual gay people.

From my experience, the average gay person is mentally tougher and more resilient than the average straight. I’m sure 99% will just roll their eyes and not give it another thought.

I’m more interested in people’s need to go into battle for gays because a footballer happened to say a bad word. To me, this says more about your own homophobia. Like, how weak and pathetic do you really think gays are that they need you, big brave hetero, to protect them from hearing nasty words?

This is such a weird take, like you'd rather be conflict averse than tackle issues in society?
Why do you think gay people have to be so mentally tough? Because they go their whole lives experiencing homophobia and internalising it. Of course you're just gonna roll your eyes if someone is throwing around words like f****t, if you're gay are you really going to open yourself up to being dehumanised like that by speaking up against it? Or have someone start treating you differently out of guilt because they realised they weren't speaking into a vacuum?

Conservative society is actually doing a pretty good job at making it taboo to be gay again. Labelling gay people as 'groomers' or 'pedos' or whatever. Then they cover it up their covert discrimination with 'I'm not homophobic but they're rubbing our faces in it'.
I'd much rather call these campaigners out than be complicit in it.

I had a mate who was in the closet right up until the last year of his life. His parents didn't find out till after he killed himself. Just cos they roll their eyes and move on doesn't mean it doesn't effect them.

 

[3207]

This is such a weird take, like you'd rather be conflict averse than tackle issues in society?
Why do you think gay people have to be so mentally tough? Because they go their whole lives experiencing homophobia and internalising it. Of course you're just gonna roll your eyes if someone is throwing around words like f****t, if you're gay are you really going to open yourself up to being dehumanised like that by speaking up against it? Or have someone start treating you differently out of guilt because they realised they weren't speaking into a vacuum?

Conservative society is actually doing a pretty good job at making it taboo to be gay again. Labelling gay people as 'groomers' or 'pedos' or whatever. Then they cover it up their covert discrimination with 'I'm not homophobic but they're rubbing our faces in it'.
I'd much rather call these campaigners out than be complicit in it.

I had a mate who was in the closet right up until the last year of his life. His parents didn't find out till after he killed himself. Just cos they roll their eyes and move on doesn't mean it doesn't effect them.

Non LGBQTI identifying people don’t have to be mentally tough?

Odd comment.

 

[justlookingaround]

Non LGBQTI identifying people don’t have to be mentally tough?

Odd comment.

Why dismiss the context of the post I quoted in which the poster said homophobic comments don't matter because gay people are mentally tougher than straight people?

 

[3207]

Why dismiss the context of the post I quoted in which the poster said it doesn't matter because gay people are mentally tougher than straight people?

I didn’t read their comment. Thats why.

 

[justlookingaround]

I didn’t read their comment. Thats why.

context is important.

 

[3207]

context is important.

Sure is.

 

[iameviljez]

context is important.

In fairness, it can be a bit much to pick up the context in a post-by-post forum. This isn't nested a la Reddit.

 

[Bostonian]

Got thrown around a lot while I was at school in the 00s.
I was lucky enough to have a mum who would've beat the s*t out of me if I ever used a racial slur.
*figuratively speaking

It started to be introduced into the local language when Gen X starting handing around pirated cassettes of NWAs Straight Outta Compton at school.

That was late 80s.

 

[Underarm]

Correlation does not equal causation

100% of people who breath oxygen die, that doesn't make oxygen toxic

Okay but sometimes it does.