Autopsy Swans beat Dockers by 3 points

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[LukeParkerno1]

The only positive is if he kicked for goal like he should he has a 3 goal game.

But we just have these highly rated guys not doing enough.

Hanily as a rookie can go missing, Hayward just shouldn't be invisible as often as he is, ditto Florent, Papley etc . One good game a month isn't enough.

Yeah and we’d all win the 100m sprint at the Olympics if we could run! He’s kicked like a dead set donkey I can cop a Campbell moss from 45m or 50m, but any competent forward should not be missing from 25m as often as Hayward does

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Believe me, I will be hating myself for saying so.

But fair is fair. Right now I feel like Rampe is our most suspect defender in terms of contesting 1v1s.

And we also have to accept that there is gonna come a time when Rampe won't be there. I think we should prepare for that scenario, while Rampe's actually still around as back-up who can come in at any time, rather than throw all the others off the deep end after Rampe retires.

I don’t want to face the prospect of no Sir Dane.

I can’t

I won’t

 

[The King!]

Yeah and we’d all win the 100m sprint at the Olympics if we could run! He’s kicked like a dead set donkey I can cop a Campbell moss from 45m or 50m, but any competent forward should not be missing from 25m as often as Hayward does

Hayward had a good 2024 , so let's not pretend he is complete horse shit

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Hayward had a good 2024 , so let's not pretend he is complete horse shit

A better 2024 than the other years yes. At some point though we can’t be that reliant on a guy who can’t kick consistently. If you are a forward you can’t be missing what are very easy set shots and let’s not pretend it’s a one off either.

 

[The King!]

A better 2024 than the other years yes. At some point though we can’t be that reliant on a guy who can’t kick consistently. If you are a forward you can’t be missing what are very easy set shots and let’s not pretend it’s a one off either.

41 goals is more than ok though for his role.

Needs to do more this year though

 

[RampeRobe]

I don’t want to face the prospect of no Sir Dane.

I can’t

I won’t

Ramps has been solid this year, dealt with Amiss pretty easily yesterday.

I don’t see why all four can’t be in the same team, Rampe takes a mid/small/new kid and bully them and then frees him, Blakey and bice up to use their left pegs a bit more..

 

[Callipygian]

Coaches Votes:

9 Josh Treacy (FRE)
6 James Jordon (SYD)
6 Chad Warner (SYD)
5 Jaeger O'Meara (FRE)
3 Tom Papley (SYD)
1 James Rowbottom (SYD)

My guess at the breakdown

Swans: 5 Treacy, 4 Warner, 3 Papley, 2 O'Meara, 1 Jordon

Freo: 5 Jordon, 4 Treacy, 3 O'Meara, 2 Warner, 1 Rowbottom

 

[The King!]

Believe me, I will be hating myself for saying so.

But fair is fair. Right now I feel like Rampe is our most suspect defender in terms of contesting 1v1s.

And we also have to accept that there is gonna come a time when Rampe won't be there. I think we should prepare for that scenario, while Rampe's actually still around as back-up who can come in at any time, rather than throw all the others off the deep end after Rampe retires.

But would you rather Rampe taking a mid sized 4th target or Roberts /Blakey?

 

[The King!]

Ramps has been solid this year, dealt with Amiss pretty easily yesterday.

I don’t see why all four can’t be in the same team, Rampe takes a mid/small/new kid and bully them and then frees him, Blakey and bice up to use their left pegs a bit more..

I hope we pick the form players, if it's Hamling staying and a club great like Rampe plays VFL so be it

 

[caesar88]

But would you rather Rampe taking a mid sized 4th target or Roberts /Blakey?

I would not be opposed to all four playing, with Rampe in that medium role, and we shuffle some deckchairs with the smalls so a flanker like Florent goes out.

I interpreted your question as who misses out if all four of those defenders are fit, but in fairness to you I re-read your question and you did say "who plays", so yeah all four could play.

 

[Ed_Gein]

By the way, that kick backwards with 10 seconds left; how desperate were the umpires in calling that not 15 / play on? Two of them yelled it a couple of times, haha. No prizes for guessing why...

 

[The King!]

I would not be opposed to all four playing, with Rampe in that medium role, and we shuffle some deckchairs with the smalls so a flanker like Florent goes out.

I interpreted your question as who misses out if all four of those defenders are fit, but in fairness to you I re-read your question and you did say "who plays", so yeah all four could play.

Yeah sorry I meant either way , I think Roberts could become a midfielder , i'd like Lizard as def/mid too.

Lloyd better on a wing and Florent should be in the twos anyway. I think all four can actually play.


Either way though Hamling has impressed me.

 

[wolftone57]

I am watching the replay. I know I said I wouldn't. Not much better 2nd time around. Every time Sir Dane has a kick the opposition set up long and outnumber. They are ready for it every time because he kicks long every time.

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[Dubai Quacker]

By the way, that kick backwards with 10 seconds left; how desperate were the umpires in calling that not 15 / play on? Two of them yelled it a couple of times, haha. No prizes for guessing why...

We got the rub of the green with the umps until the last few minutes.

 

[Deccas]

For sure but he has done well to play a few games this year, that's a win already

Absolutely. Got a few games, didn't embarrass himself at the level. Did some good things, dropped a few easy marks. You'll take it from these sort of 35th player in the list types.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

By the way, that kick backwards with 10 seconds left; how desperate were the umpires in calling that not 15 / play on? Two of them yelled it a couple of times, haha. No prizes for guessing why...

I’m bitterly disappointed that it hasn’t been addressed in the media. Has been glossed over. That rule cost us turnovers in round 0 due to hack kicks under pressure.

We are a team scrutinised more than others as we developed shorter kicking to counter zoning. More than half of the calls have clearly been 15 but they’ve been instructed to lean towards play on if it’s close.

 

[McGowan3]

My guess at the breakdown

Swans: 5 Treacy, 4 Warner, 3 Papley, 2 O'Meara, 1 Jordon

Freo: 5 Jordon, 4 Treacy, 3 O'Meara, 2 Warner, 1 Rowbottom

Papley in the Coaches votes at Optus Oval. Ridiculous that some on here wanted him dropped. Very short memories.

 

[wolftone57]

Joel Amartey in front of goal in the third. He had both Ryan and Cox beaten. Pearce comes in from the front and takes both his hands. It had to be a free. Without his hands being taken he would have marked that ball. It was a classic free. But the WA umpire refused to give it

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[wolftone57]

Whatever the coaches were smoking when they gave Papley votes must be some strong stuff.

He was better, but coming from a low bar. Still selective when he gave a crap about chasing and tackling.

I agree. Definitely not anywhere near it.

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[Wheresbuddy]

I am watching the replay. I know I said I wouldn't. Not much better 2nd time around. Every time Sir Dane has a kick the opposition set up long and outnumber. They are ready for it every time because he kicks long every time.

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I know the GF was only one game but I still can't get the memory of Ah Chee and Lohman comprehensively besting Rampe.

 

[wolftone57]

yep why not send Florent, Hayward, Paps, Grundy and Ill chuck in Roberts, Rowbottom, Heeney - who are all way down on last years performances
Send 'em all to the VFL.

Such reactionary BS

No. But you send players who have been shite all year for a game. Rowie has been good two out of three. Paps is injured and should be recovering. Roberts has been good most of the time. Heeney has been ordinary on his bar. But the bar is high. Wilbur's bar is pretty low. 11 disposals, but it is the 4.4 tackles that is also very important.

Wilbur has been poor, even on his medium standards. He is far better than this. His upside is so much better. But he is not performing. Time for him to get some form in the reserves. I love Wilbur, he has so much upside. He can win you a game. But last week he was a non event and his player was almost a match winner.

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[McGowan3]

Whatever the coaches were smoking when they gave Papley votes must be some strong stuff.

He was better, but coming from a low bar. Still selective when he gave a crap about chasing and tackling.

Yeah. What would they know about the game?

 

[Bloods86]

Papley in the Coaches votes at Optus Oval. Ridiculous that some on here wanted him dropped. Very short memories.

I'd be more concerned about the coaches memories having given Paps any votes in that game played yesterday.

He was better, low bar, but wouldn't have even been in our top 10.

Still should have been dropped.

 

[wolftone57]

Not just Ryan but also Pearce. It was like Pearce was 3metres tall out there at times

But Ryan absolutely blitzed us. I live Wil but he is just not in form

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[Bloods86]

Yeah. What would they know about the game?

How to give votes based on name and reputation